Session Start: Sat Nov 01 15:15:54 2014
Session Ident: IzzyCreamcheese
[15:15] <Ter> Revenge on HD's player account is not acceptable You have been admin killed. If you need more information please see Squishy 
[15:16] <Ter> I have literally no idea what this is about.
[15:16] <Ter> You got the wrong person chump
[15:16] <Ter> Imma go to work and not let it bother me tho.
[15:16] <Ter> I rarely fucking even play the goddamn game
[15:16] <Ter> But your alianating your players.
[15:18] <IzzyCreamcheese> What do you know about the death of the staff accounts?
[15:19] <Ter> Nothing? I hardly even play
[15:20] <IzzyCreamcheese> Do you understand why 303 was killed?
[15:23] <IzzyCreamcheese> brb, door
[15:24] <Ter> No?
[15:25] <Ter> :S As I said, I hardly play. I'm sure it must make sense to you, but you should look at my activity... and check if I was online during any of the times you had issues with them
[15:25] <Ter> I highly doubt I was even online withing 4 hours of anything happening that you didnt like
[15:26] <Ter> I have no influance except being the grand master leader of all them fucktards
[15:26] <Ter> But they do what they want
[15:26] <Ter> >.>
[15:26] <Ter> imma go work. I think i should be revived with 1000+ wackstat as compensation
[15:26] <Ter> but thats just my view
[15:29] <IzzyCreamcheese> when you are done work give a yell
[15:29] <IzzyCreamcheese> and we can get this straightened out
[15:30] <Ter> Ok then
Session Close: Sat Nov 01 20:17:41 2014

Session Start: Sat Nov 01 20:17:41 2014
Session Ident: IzzyCreamcheese
Session Time: Sun Nov 02 00:00:00 2014
[00:06] <Ter> Rightio
[00:06] <Ter> Would you like to fill me in on what has been going on?
[00:17] <Ter> I really havnt been following anything that has been going on in the game, Ive recently turned down auth, I was only temp RH'ing. I get on to occasionally nose about and lose at dice...
[00:17] <Ter> I havent been involved in anything that could be considered slightly mischiefous in any way
[00:18] <Ter> So I do feel I have been targetted slightly, Or you have just made an assumption that I have somehow played a part in something
Session Close: Sun Nov 02 00:29:06 2014

Session Start: Sun Nov 02 00:29:06 2014
Session Ident: IzzyCreamcheese
[00:31] <Ter> You realise the 303 group evolved from when I started it and includes a few individuals I can not stand?
[00:39] <Ter> End of the day, people need something to follow. Ive made plenty of "groups" over the years. Eventually people start to hate who they are following and change it themselves... Years ago I felt like CP should have been killed for bloodline'ing me so much. Eventually they fell. I wasnt that happy during Billys reign either, Eventually the userbase did the same thing.
[00:40] <Ter> Every group or reign someone has falls eventually after they piss enough people off.
[00:40] <Ter> But I havnt actually been a part of this.
[00:59] <Ter> I am starting to feel like I will need to defend myself in public, as just from you DD'ing me I have been tarnished with a shit brush.

[01:05] <IzzyCreamcheese> hey
[01:05] <IzzyCreamcheese> you here?
[01:05] <Ter> I am
[01:05] <IzzyCreamcheese> Long story short, 303 organized for staff accounts to be killed
[01:05] <IzzyCreamcheese> because of me
[01:05] <IzzyCreamcheese> this is after my warning not to do so
[01:06] <IzzyCreamcheese> so, the heads of 303 were killed
[01:06] <IzzyCreamcheese> at the time, i only had some logs of some of the people 
[01:06] <IzzyCreamcheese> so i had to cast a wide net
[01:06] <IzzyCreamcheese> because 303 makes decisions as a group
[01:06] <IzzyCreamcheese> or so i was led to beleive
[01:06] <Ter> I hardly open up irc :/
[01:06] <IzzyCreamcheese> So i need to ask a few questions
[01:07] <IzzyCreamcheese> did you know about any of the attacks on staff accounts?
[01:08] <Ter> I hear them talking about shooting loads of people
[01:08] <Ter> I dont know who is who
[01:08] <IzzyCreamcheese> When a group is passing down orders to shoot staff acounts
[01:08] <IzzyCreamcheese> thats when the group needs to end, and anyone who willingly participates in that
[01:08] <Ter> Genuine because when friends mail me I even have to ask who they are
[01:09] <IzzyCreamcheese> I am only reviving people who can honestly, man to man, swear they knew nothing about it
[01:09] <Ter> I didnt know anything about it, And feel harshly treated by this
[01:10] <Ter> As my brother displayed 303 in his profile
[01:10] <Ter> and wasnt touched
[01:10] <Ter> he hasnt logged in god knows how long. But i hear neither has someone else you DD'd :/
[01:10] <IzzyCreamcheese> ok, i am unable to help you then
[01:10] <IzzyCreamcheese> if you feel harshly treated because your group got caught breaking the rules 
[01:10] <IzzyCreamcheese> then, you need to redirect your anger to those that put you here
[01:11] <IzzyCreamcheese> sorry we were unabel to work this out
[01:11] <Ter> You are kidding right?
[01:11] <IzzyCreamcheese> your group did this man
[01:11] <Ter> I am not angry at you
[01:11] <Ter> I'm angry about being DD'd when I wasnt a part of it
[01:11] <IzzyCreamcheese> you arnt part of 303?
[01:12] <Ter> Im the boss
[01:12] <Ter> Atleast in my eyes
[01:12] <Ter> But i always have been for every group I run.
[01:12] <IzzyCreamcheese> so when orders are being passed down in team speak
[01:12] <IzzyCreamcheese> from your group
[01:12] <IzzyCreamcheese> to your group
[01:13] <IzzyCreamcheese> I am trying to work with you here to get you revived
[01:13] <Ter> Teamspeak
[01:14] <Ter> yeah I have heard of this, I installed it two days ago
[01:14] <Ter> if that

[01:14] <IzzyCreamcheese> but if i dont know that you are 1000000% distanced from this
[01:14] <Ter> have idled with it muted since
[01:14] <IzzyCreamcheese> so then can you explain to me what all you knew about the killing of staff accounts?
[01:15] <Ter> I hardly play. the most I hear about the game is from what regan tells me in small talk at work
[01:17] <Ter> each time I look at my phone theres about 180 messages on whats app
[01:17] <Ter> but I dont even read the most part
[01:18] <Ter> I'm sure whoever it is you talk to could verify that I dont take part in any of their meetings or decisions
[01:19] <Ter> But thanks that was the oldest character I think I have had, and that was from being IA for a few months.
[01:25] <Ter> Wonderful world where you get punished first and then need to prove your innocence
[01:26] <Ter> After your investigations are over and you realise I am innocent will you be compensating me for the hardship you have caused?
[01:26] <IzzyCreamcheese> Your reuqest for 1000 extra wack
[01:26] <IzzyCreamcheese> and compensation will not be needed
[01:26] <Ter> Naw wack stat doesnt interest me
[01:26] <Ter> credits for dice would be lovely
[01:27] <IzzyCreamcheese> You can talk to 303 for compensation
[01:27] <IzzyCreamcheese> I will not be reviving you at this time
[01:27] <IzzyCreamcheese> have a good evening
[01:27] <Ter> So thats your investigation over?
[01:27] <Ter> You have deemed me guilty?
[01:28] <Ter> If I was part of the events you have decided are DDable, Id have shot Kuku for the lols
[01:28] <Ter> But I wasnt there.
[01:28] <IzzyCreamcheese> I feel that my saturday night is best spent doing somethign other than working on MR
[01:29] <IzzyCreamcheese> and getting lip from you
[01:29] <IzzyCreamcheese> we can try this Monday while I am at work
[01:29] <Ter> You told me to come to you now?
[01:29] <IzzyCreamcheese> I am not interested in dealing with smugness on my day off
[01:29] <IzzyCreamcheese> we can try again monday
[01:30] <Ter> You know im being smug because yu know I wasnt part of it tho?
[01:30] <IzzyCreamcheese> Please do not PM me any more
[01:30] <IzzyCreamcheese> we can try this converastion over again on monday
Session Close: Sun Nov 02 01:58:35 2014

Session Start: Sun Nov 02 01:58:35 2014
Session Ident: IzzyCreamcheese
[02:42] <Ter> Ok I didnt even know anyone was gonna be dying
[02:43] <Ter> And your running dupe checks? and tell me not to message you until your working?
[02:47] <Ter> You dislike me or somethin?
[02:47] <Ter> eh?
[02:47] <Ter> heh
Session Close: Sun Nov 02 02:53:37 2014

Session Start: Sun Nov 02 13:18:39 2014
Session Ident: IzzyCreamcheese
[13:18] <Ter> [03:24:04] <ZoeyHills> May i ask who you are
[13:18] <Ter> [03:24:28] <Ter> I dont understand the question
[13:18] <Ter> [03:24:38] <Ter> <--
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:00] <ZoeyHills> ha
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:01] <ZoeyHills> i thought so
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:03] <ZoeyHills> Dagenham?
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:07] <Ter> Lol
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:10] <Ter> Yeah
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:15] <ZoeyHills> good to see you
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:28] <Ter> Umm you too?
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:30] <Ter> :|
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:48] <ZoeyHills> I wanted to tell you something before im done again
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:55] <ZoeyHills> You were my second CL
[13:18] <Ter> [03:25:58] <ZoeyHills> when i first played
[13:18] <Ter> [03:26:07] <ZoeyHills> I really appreciated you
[13:18] <Ter> [03:26:13] <ZoeyHills> I liked your leadership
[13:18] <Ter> [03:26:16] <Ter> Thank you :)
[13:18] <Ter> [03:26:22] <ZoeyHills> Yep :)
[13:18] <Ter> [03:26:25] <ZoeyHills> i hope you do well in life
[13:18] <Ter> [03:26:39] <Ter> You too, I think I am done aswell.
[13:18] <Ter> [03:26:50] <Ter> I was randomly DD'd by the administration
[13:18] <Ter> [03:27:06] <ZoeyHills> who were you?
[13:18] <Ter> [03:27:07] <Ter> when I havnt been involved with any of the recent decisions
[13:18] <Ter> [03:27:11] <Ter> Cpt-Cook
[13:18] <Ter> [03:28:19] <ZoeyHills> oh but of course :)
[13:18] <Ter> [03:28:48] <Ter> You recently just died?
[13:18] <Ter> [03:31:10] <ZoeyHills> not yet
[13:18] <Ter> [03:31:13] <ZoeyHills> ill die soon :)
[13:18] <Ter> [03:33:37] <Ter> Ah oki
[13:18] <Ter> [03:33:52] <Ter> Well best of luck to you
[13:18] <Ter> [03:34:52] <ZoeyHills> thankyou friend :)
[13:19] <Ter> where as your leadership of the game in the last few years has been terrible.
[13:19] <Ter> Not just my opinion there.
Session Close: Sun Nov 02 14:12:31 2014

I would just like to clarify. The not just my opinion, Isn't just the opinion of the "303" but of large majority of the game. Unfortunately over recent years the players have been bullied into not voicing their concerns due to the high amounts of DD's and bans from doing so. (I am not trying to imply it is everyones opinion either.)

When ZoeyHills PM'd me I knew nothing of what was currently going on in game. I very much appreciate Zoeys comments on my leadership, give my apologies for having to use them in such a public way and wish her the best on her future.

I am still waiting to hear back from the administration on this matter... I highly doubt I even will. I have disagreed with many of the decisions that have been made over the past decade, Regularly voicing them often leading to some heated discussions between Izzy and myself. I can however vouch that I do not have any sort of form of vendetta against the admin team or Helpdesk team.

I am extremely unhappy about the decision to bring myself into this via the assumption that I was involved in some sort of way.

Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

Can I just say something? Well, I can because you put it out there for all to see. But do not be offended by what I am about to say. It is but an observation.

Izzy turned to you repeatedly and asked you. Did you know anything about what happened? You said once that you didn't but still went off on a tangent. You were asked twice more and you skirted around the issue.

By the end you came across that you were being a bit evasive and very defensive in a way that feels like you knew precisely what was going on. From those logs I really dont think you have done yourself any favours.

To be honest. I think if you speak to Izzy and can declare, 100%, you knew nothing about it then I cannot see why you wouldn't be revived and surely thats apology enough?

A shame the perm ban didn't come before you dropped this pathetically deluded whine. 

Deluded? Do one crack head.

This definitely won't get you unbanned. 303 FAIL :) You're at fault Mr. Capt-Cook. You claim to be the boss of 303 and when something goes wrong you seem baffled. Bye Bye!

I am not offended in the slightest Brendan, I do understand that the conversation could have been perceived that way.

I do believe I was pretty clear that I did not know anything about these deaths. I even honestly admitted that I had full access to all 303 conversations had I been around or wanted to know.

At the end of the day, The accounts that were attacked were player accounts and it should have been left for the player population to handle. (Again not condoning what has happened, Just pointing out a fact.)

so, as grand master leader of the fucktards who do what they want ...

you went from I'm hardly on to ...

I hardly open up irc to ...

you heard them talking about shooting loads of people to

i didn't know anything about it to ...

i'm the boss to ...

i just installed teamspeak two days ago if that and it has been muted to ...

the most i hear about the game is thru someone at work to ...

i don't even read my whatsapp messages to

poor you deserves compensation for the hardship of my hardly playing account being dd'd to ...

i didnt know anyone was gonna be dying.

Quite the circle jerk you were trying to pull off there. Epic fail for sure.

"Epic fail for sure."

I do not see how this could be a fail at all. My thread here isnt about preserving the image or reputation of "303" Its about pointing out some of the issues the game has at the moment and has had for the last few years. Rash and cut throat decisions with DD's and bans are extremely detrimental to image and the perspective new players have of the game.

I dont actually know who FishFeet is or was but they are hitting the nail on the head.

Izzy, I dont actually want you to take this as an attack on yourself. We have got on along the years and I hold nothing against you, But you brought this to me with the DD. Where as if a decision like the one you made was to be made at all, As much facts as possible should have been looked over and confirmed who was involved and responsible.

[00:59] <Ter> I am starting to feel like I will need to defend myself in public, as just from you DD'ing me I have been tarnished with a shit brush.

I should have been innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.

who gives a fk anyway? What was was, what is is, and what will be... hum depends...