This is a very interesting thread.

I just wish you had put forth the extra effort and made it a street thread. 

I agree with Credits; but I find this sort of commentary immensely helpful as a player rather than a character. I hope when this reaches a conclusion, we have similar commentaries brought to light to see exactly how this happened. That thread should be in the Streets, I'd say, and we can let those who died voice their perspective without trying to formulate it into some kind of "I read my father's mind while he was at war and this is what he was thinking".

All in all, it was a total  clusterfuck

All in all it was a mess, still interesting read though. Peace out bro x

We complain when they don't give us reasons, we complain when they come out and pour their hearts out but we don't like the format.

Whatever effort he put in this, he did it for US, not for himself. We could show a little more gratitude and save our criticism for the streets.

clarify US please?

Thank you Lynchy for coming out with your side.

While it's extremely disappointing to know that you would not shoot the cause of everything I still respect that you wanted to keep South Philly safe. Just wish things could have ended the war so much sooner.

I hope that your next character prospers or that you have a great vacation. :D

I would like someone to reply to me too Jaded. Empires have no meanining without competition. It could be 3+sided game...

I must admit a look from multiple angles is always interesting as see the action, counter action etc and the weakness and strengths of the sides, especially with crews switching mid war in some cases

I don't know what Sirius did, in truth the two of them reduced their communications with me at that point,

To be fairly honest, Sirius's orders to us were to shoot anyone tagged for LV and certain parts of NY. Tbh we were all fairly confused as that war was very disorganized and a cluster fuck. Those that had guns less than 100 were either proing him or blackbetty or else one of the bigger guns. (Myself being a pro wacker as i have not had any inclanation to build a cannon since i was last housed in bronx under firenza)

Sirious was loyal to His district and Philly as a whole, my father the late Don Kurgan had many conversations with Don Sirious as well as GodMother BlackBetty.

He was happy to call them both friends and was devastated that this war broke out but in saying that. Kurgan could understand the motivations behind the war Elements in Philly feared the growing power in Manhatten as well as Vegas. Nothing new there anyone building up a power base will come under that microscope and be seen as a threat.

While Manhatten under Tyrion was a new District it was building fast, There was 3 guns in Manhatten that where closeing in fast at being able to end a capped Godfather of cause this would cause concerns within Philly, After the deaths of Tetley and Curtis Philly may well have thought that it needed to consulidate its own power base to ensure its own survival.

Manhatten and Vegas where not part of that design :(

Yes the war was a total cluster fuck but in saying that it was an interesting war. Rip to the many fallen you can all hold your heads up high.

I am stunned

So much so that it took you six days to say it?

In my opinion, having a few retrospective in mind - having browsed the streets and the obits to learn history, what did hapen at the time, was just a proof that some underdogs could do some serious targeted damage; I am not saying they could be wining some serious wars, but still... rebuilding a world sometimes is a need. Of course some preconditions were necessary, like that time a few weeks ago when DT/PH/NY were sharing their sheet between themselves. Keep your ennemies at close gunpoint, your friends even closer, the proverb says. Outsiders should just stay still, and outside, till oportunity or warning given... The rest is about luck, readiness and worthiness...

I have never heard that proverb. I'll be sure to keep it in mind, whatever it means...