Sorry about what happened, Santos. Hope things are better for you off of MR

I sort of get your point, but considering what was said those who removed you really didn't have a choice.

With the knowledge, the only other choice they had was to sit and wait for it to happen. Which would have been massively to their detriment. I think they're in a catch 22 situation as what you said was 'out of character', however inaction on what you said would have led to serious repercussions for those who authed you.

It's a tough one for any user to judge. Izzy probably needs to draw a definitive line, but I'm not even sure that's possible because even if he ruled what you said was completely non-connected to the game, then what about the people you had eyes for? They've either got to swallow it and await what's coming or find a different reason to get you killed (the more likely option).

The obvious solution here is... don't be so stupid as to threaten another city on a form of social media. Whether in character or out... if people know who you are it's going to shine a massive shit light onto your character.

This was totally avoidable if you hadn't shouted your plans from the rooftop. I don't even get why you'd do that in the first place.

If you had said... "The KevinOwens thing is getting old and there needs to be a wipe" I would have taken that as you coming for me.

Like I said, you were out of character, but fuck man... to say that out loud is just dumb as fuck. What would possess you to air a view about the strongest city in the game needed to get cut down?

One step short of insanity.

I'm not sure what was said, yet it is definitely a catch 22. Not for legitimate reasons, as in a role-playing game no information given OOC should be able to be used IC, and vice versa, yet given this is MR where people blur this line all the time you dug your own hole from the sounds of it. Again I don't know what was said, but the IC and OOC fuzziness has been this way as long as I have played.

I agree bud, but that wont happen :) It's better to just be chill OOC. As KO said, they would've found a way to do it another time, and with another reason, so the hole was already being dug.

lol.

leave the outside outside and keep the game in character, huh.

just gonna say, it was quite silly of you to say what you did, I get it, anger, whatevs, but still, it wasn't smart to say, especially given your position within your city.

'Leave the game with the game'.

That statement is impossible.

Hey, i'm new to the game. my friend brought me on, I make a char and he invites me.

That's outside of the game, it'll always happen and never stop.

some people will never stop ooc, it's pointless to try to change it. It's just how the game is played I'd think.

Meh.. Kenny is dead. Doesn't matter to much anymore just want Izzy to be aware that there is an abuse happening and to correct it for future players. People should be able to say anything away from game and not worry about anything. Is like people here challenging the how I need to be a man, now that it's been said would that give me the right to smash them irl.. No not at all! It need to be fixed. Leave the game with the game. And OOC in the outside world.

And if Izzy does that, hopefully you will get re-instated. Then all of CH can sit there with the knowledge that you do not like them being the powerhouse and tomorrow, they take you out because they want LA back? Because their city is quite full and they want to expand? Because they just dont like you? Because they don't like groups you're affiliated with like La Frat? Because you pull down your pantos from time to time?

You see where I'm going here? YOU dug your own grave, if it hadn't come today for what you said, it was coming within the next week for whatever other reason they wanted.

You fucked up, man up and accept that instead of forcing Izzy into an uncomfortable position of having to 'lay down the law'.

You seem to be stuck on the idea that killing someone in a game because what he said about the game or involving the game is equal to killing someone in real life for something in the game. It isn't.

Ultimately you are to be blamed equally or even more for your death; it was your decision to talk about sensitive things like that you should have known aren't to be talked about lightly. Above all I would recommend seeing this as a learning moment. When you talk about the game, or something you're going to do in the game, don't be surprised if those people take note of that and take according steps.