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Credit Prices - A Discussion | Started by: Donbot on Jan 25, '13 16:36 |
What would be the administrators/owners motivation to cap credit prices further? The higher the credit price, the more likely people are to spend there own real money on credits then previously. Let me show a few examples:
MIA's: When credits were under 400,000, you could comfortably keep up with your MIA quota just through playing a few hours a day, a few drugs runs and a few OCs. Now, as squaishy points out, it is much harder to earn that 2 CD's a day. The only realistic option is investing real cash to top up your earnings to enable yourself to buy the credit to purchase an MIA. As Squishy points out, it takes less 'real time' to earn the $1 for an MIA then the mr$500,000. The higher the CD price, the more people likely to use real money
BG's: When the credit price is at 400k a CD, it takes more RL cash to buy BGs in comparison to CDs being high. This would make you think that more money would be spent on BGs when the CD price is low as they need more. Wrong. I would bet more people use real cash when CDs are high because it takes less real cash to buy them due to the actual amount of cash being less money. It is like a sale, the cheaper something is, the more people buy it. :
100 BGs @ thug (750k) = 75,000,000
75,000,000 / 400k = $187.5
75,000,000 / 500 = $150
I beleive more people are likely to become IWP through their own $$$ at $150 rather then $200. The higher the CD cost. The more likely people are to IWP with there own cash, the more money the game makes.
In summary, the higher a CD cost, the more money the game makes as people need to either a) invest more to keep up; b) get a larger benefit of investing then previously. The more money the game makes, the less motivation there is for a change to be implemented.
ps: If Squishy says I am wrong and the game is making less with higher credits, I will happily retract my comments, as mine are based on simple theory and no facts. |
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Reply by: Skinner at Jan 28, '13 19:36 | |
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The problem with that scenario skinner is thus: |
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Reply by: Raoul_Silva at Jan 28, '13 20:32 | |
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Just to echo Raoul's thoughts on this...
The game has been at tipping point for a while. Once the game goes 'over the edge' with regards to the deepest pockets being the ultimate winners, the game will end. People won't (for an extended period) keep digging into their pockets every character they have. Those of us who can't/won't buy credits with real money will find other things to do or other games to play where the balance is tipped less in the favour of those with deep pockets.
The admin team aren't daft, hence the addition of a cap on the marketplace. It needed to be done otherwise the game would've gone that way.
Personally, I think we need to move this place more towards the 'casual player' again, the more people thinking they have a shot of greatness the better. |
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Reply by: Countdown at Jan 28, '13 20:49 | |
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In my eyes, the game has already "ended". |
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Reply by: MichaelLaMotta at Jan 28, '13 20:57 | |
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To me, countdown, that was always the magic of this place, that no matter who you where, or when you started, you could make a difference. |
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Reply by: Raoul_Silva at Jan 28, '13 20:58 | |
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Amen Raoul. |
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Reply by: MichaelLaMotta at Jan 28, '13 21:03 | |
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"Cities being closed, user base is smaller, less amount of crews (do to user base getting smaller), some of the old timers have left, all of these have been happening for awhile now. I love the game and the community, but what Countdown, Raoul, and a few others have said in this discussion, its only a matter of time." |
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Reply by: Squishy at Jan 28, '13 23:05 | |
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Also take note that with the new district/grid setup, there will be a lot of new opportunity for the new players and existing low ranked players. Those who are not given jobs by their CLs, and especially those who are not as social butterfly as others - will still find alot of purpose and self-reward with the new features coming out with the grid. We are taking great effort to flip the game upside down so that there is equal reward for all players regardless of what rung on the latter you are on. |
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Reply by: Squishy at Jan 28, '13 23:07 | |
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You're right I might have a pretty skewed view of whats going on. But so do others... Thanks for setting myself and anyone else who might have the same view, straight. I cannot wait for the districts. What's the ETA on them? |
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Reply by: MichaelLaMotta at Jan 29, '13 00:03 | |
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The ETA on the grid is sort of in the air. We are making great progress with it, but having difficulty getting it to work in a lot of fringe cases. Hopefully we can get it hammered out so it works on all modern browsers on all devices and is not laggy for any speed connection - this takes a lot of give and take when it comes to coding - its proving to be a real bitch :) |
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Reply by: Squishy at Jan 29, '13 00:40 | |
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Just to back up Squishy's words with stats that EVERY user has available at their disposal (the point im making here is its not stats that only admins can see).
15/04/2011
As you can see in the last few months the 'users active per 24' has steadily increased after a couple of stimulus' by the admins (one of those was simply to send out an email to accounts that hadnt had a character in a while).
We ARE growing, I just dont see many of the new users wanting to dip into their pockets yet. I wait with baited breath as to what the districts are going to bring and I hope the admin team get it out as fast as is possible, although it definitely needs to be pretty bug-free from the get-go as Squishy has stated they're doing. |
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Reply by: Countdown at Jan 29, '13 12:20 | |
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Obviously all those dates are UK dates... day/month/year |
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Reply by: Countdown at Jan 29, '13 12:21 | |
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Thanks for showing this Countdown. |
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Reply by: MichaelLaMotta at Jan 29, '13 16:12 | |
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any chance of the hours active in comparison ?
also is there like most things 90+ % controlled by say 10% of the people |
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Reply by: Stephen_Flemmi at Jan 29, '13 16:58 | |
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Sorry Stephen I havent been recording the hours active stat.
Perhaps start one from today so you can compare a couple of months down the line? |
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Reply by: Countdown at Jan 29, '13 17:52 | |
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i am honestly unsure if i will be here in a few months, work ramps up round april |
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Reply by: Stephen_Flemmi at Jan 29, '13 18:10 | |
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