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| What are you hungry for. | Started by: LucaGiordano on Aug 13, '17 18:53 |
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I find myself riddled with apprehension, reluctance and lethargy. Why? In as fewer words as possible, there feels to be a gaping chasm torn in our world between integrity and anarchy. On the one side, there are many discontented parties forcing themselves to spew their grievances into the public domain. Generations of children who seek retribution for the deaths of their parents, who died for their part in our business. These acts exceed the expected reaction to loss, as those who feel they have been victimized because their parents were in the mob default to a cantankerous mix of aggression, anguish and accusation. And so havoc ensues, distracting us from the status quo as an escalating series of measures force the hand of those who pull the strings to meet them with an even more drastic solution. The result is a continuously cascading wave of disgruntled kin, desperate to achieve some form of self-gratification, and pressured leaders, protecting everything they have built by any means necessary. Anarchy. On the other side stand the ones with the energy and passion for building. Business men and women who are out to tell a story, live a life and provide an experience. People like Larry, who want to engage the world with carefully planned businesses which are ripe for being picked off. Attractive proposals which aim to deliver more than the usual grind, offer interesting new ways to make coin and are devised by people with genuine care and consideration for developing our streets beyond what is normally possible. This is where people who actually care for our world come into play. This is the option which is available to all, however some chose not to take. This is what those so desperate to change the dynamics of our structure and format could actually do to make a difference. Integrity. Leadership comes and goes, that does not mean the control does though. The mindset we implement and actions we take are the control we have, regardless of who is sat at the top. Ours is the power and responsibility to shapes things and show true initiative and innovation. Instead we look up, expecting the action to come from those already tasked with administration and management. So there is chaos, which brings a new breed of admin and management, extreme measures to combat the anarchy. We should be looking to each other to innovate, and looking down for those that need guidance and training, who will walk with us in generations to come. I myself am an entrepreneur. I have a wealth of ideas and business designs which I just don't have the motivation to deliver. I know that they will be disregarded, ignored, lost, in the distracting chasm between integrity and anarchy. I truly believe through commitment to development which is implemented by our own drive and maintained with a mature mindset that the pressures on those of age and skill will lessen as it does on our leaders. Opportunities will arise as trust is built between those at the top and the bottom. Break the cycle of paranoia and discontent and see what happens. So I ask you all, what are you hungry for. |
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ShotForPlaying starts fanning himself, Who boy, takes were hot in this one! Gotta love the ShotForPlaying chuckles, My apologies, I just wanted to open with a laugh and hope you have a similar response at my expense should you choose to respond. First and foremost, are you asserting obedience to someone in a group that has killed off many similar participants in similar suggestions is akin to integrity? Maybe you aren't, but it seems that you are asserting that following Larry's instructions is somehow akin to integrity when he himself just recently admitted to ordering people killed without putting in much effort to learn anything about whether or not they were trustworthy. Next, you're a bit overly critical of the children of the dead, in my opinion. Do you believe that winning a war means everything one side does was on the moral up and up so the children of the dead shouldn't be angry at all? I personally don't. Not all speeches from the children of the dead are overly emotional, disgruntled whining, in my opinion. I'll give you speeches like that happen, as do responses to speeches, but clearly not all. Nor do the actions of a few always justify a punishment enforced on the whole, and entirely blaming those that are dead for the decisions of those in charge sounds a tad absurd to me, personally. If someone of significantly lower stature does something you don't like, you in fact don't have to kill more than 10 of your own people on information gained from Shot Reports to determine loyalty. There are always other options, though I must admit there are rare occasions where these sorts of wide spread policies are beneficial to the whole, I personally find them to be almost always entirely detrimental to everyone but those at the top and those not should in fact be upset by decisions made that hurt them directly. You question why people look up instead of working. People are getting picked off for being too old, having worked at their guns, or just being loyal foot soldiers at the wrong place and time. Let's focus on me. Why would should I invest any form of capital into an environment with so little certainty my work isn't just gonna be wiped away by the passing whim of someone at the top, or because I happened to be actively working the streets when a rogue took a shot? And forgive me for speaking on one I do not know but you, yourself aren't an entrepreneur based on what you've said here today. You sound like you're following someone else's lead, therefor not taking large risks yourself investing in yourself, you're taking small risks investing in the ideas of another with some of yours mixed in. That is very far from an entrepreneur, it doesn't sound like you're taking much of a risk at all, unless of course you fear random bullets from those you've pledged loyalty to and served loyally. Though, I may be wrong and hope you the best in your future ventures. I truly believe this whole speech was misguided prodding at the dead to impress your superiors, that is my own hot take, but merely speculation from an outsider. I'm hungry for consistency and accountability with less face saving nonsense with zero evidence in the streets. Just because your superiors say they're doing something, when what little evidence we have points the opposite direction doesn't mean they're necessarily lying or telling the truth. But when everything is done and all evidence is held behind closed doors, we're left to assume the worst because why else wouldn't they take anything of substance public? There's a large feel of those at the top wanting to be feared as tyrants and loved as champions of the people, but that's a contradiction and I'd like for them to at least stick to one philosophy in public statements. |
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| Reply by: ShotForPlaying at Aug 13, '17 19:48 | |
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No laughs over here, paisano, at this point I find myself in limbo, along with all of those who feel they cannot effectively contribute and operate as they wish. As I say, there are far too many distractions for me to feel any attempts to flex my business muscles will be met or even acknowledged during these times. While everyone is either caught up in the ongoing attempts to topple the leadership, part of the leadership and thus trying to mitigate attempts to bring down their regime or your average Joe, either too discouraged or too fearful to invest their time here. My motivations lay where they are usually found, working for a future, not just a here and now. That future can be found in those stepping off the boat, fresh faced and naive to our internal struggles. Whatever actions my own employer or his peers have deemed necessary to take is not mine to question. I have not participated in the efforts made to create what they have built, nor is it my responsibility to advise on what steps should be taken next. I can however confidently speculate that the unfortunate circumstances which I suspect befell your mother or father were ones taken as a last resort, driven as I previous mention by the ever escalating methods of derailing the regime. As the environment around us evolves to destroy us, we must evolve to survive. I agree that not all voices can be identified by those who shout the loudest, however I do find that those who do not speak out or remain composed in their grief are the ones to watch out for. Emotion can force us to say and do things we would not normally commit to. When there is little expression of that grief, it takes either a great deal of control to maintain that composure, or there is a much more devious, committed and calculating mind to be vigilant of. Your comments regarding age or more importantly, skill with a weapon, are simply resolved in my mind. If a person is hunted for having the ability to kill another man or woman, why should that ability be sought after in the first place? All this time wasted making attempts destined to fail in removing the leadership could have been spent building, training, earning. The leadership is more likely to offer opportunities to a person who actively and responsibly contributes than one who fights against them constantly. The rain and the wind may howl and tug at my coat, however all the sun has to do is shine for me to open it off or remove all together. My entrepreneur comments are intended towards what I would like to offer, however I know right now, the climate is not right. My efforts would go wasted. I am better focused on supporting Larry's venture as you mention, where we can make the most of the interested parties. And thank you for your hunger. I hope you can see that what you've said is mostly based on perspective. One day you may find yourself at the top of the pile, however wonder still why everyone below complains that you're stood on them. It is only natural, inevitable and unavoidable. I think you have a justifiable request in the information available in the streets. Feedback which could be considered? If there was total transparency in the actions which had been taken, would you feel more respect towards the leadership, even though you don't like what is said? I hope I've covered everything and that it makes sense, if some areas are unclear I'll be happy to reword as necessary. |
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| Reply by: LucaGiordano at Aug 13, '17 20:59 | |
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My deepest sympathies for your feeling of being in limbo and your worries for investing time here. Best of luck in working for the future, I just prefer to tackle the problems set in front of me so it's easy for me to get sucked into power struggles like many of the others on our shores. I would like to challenge whether or not your employers are yours to question. Obviously doing so publicly would be bad for your health, so please don't do that, but also don't dissuade people from thinking about the actions of their leaders. No one is above reproach, and the unfortunate circumstances surrounding my father/mother aren't as frustrating as the logic surrounding it or the excuses people are making for it for me. There will always be people trying to derail the current regime, their efforts existence isn't justification for faulty decisions or logic, but that's a subject for another time. As for your statement on those who speak out versus those who don't, there's certainly validity to that from the history of this thing of ours that those that remain silent can be very dangerous, but children being talkative, retiring, then their children being silent are also rather common. Whether or not one speaks isn't the best indicator for commitment to creating change one way or the other, in my personal opinion. As for the pursuit of the ability to kill, that's how you get into the largest money making positions in this thing of ours. Money can only buy so much power, whereas guns are a form of power that can constantly bring in money. Not all efforts to build guns are done specifically for the purpose of killing a current regime, quite frankly most aren't. Most are done to support the defenses of the family or their leader's ambition. There's nothing wrong with wanting this, or controlling this (killing people who accumulate it), but the fact people are being so thoroughly hunted for doing something thought to be relatively standard in this thing of ours is enough to prevent many from investing time or effort here. I disagree on Larry's ventures being helpful to anyone but those already in their circle, but that is simply a difference of opinion. Thank you for your critiques on my desire for more transparency. I'm not asking for complete and total transparency, because that would be ridiculous, but if they were to provide legitimate evidence backing what they say I would have more respect even should they say something I don't like. It removes a good chunk of uncertainty for me. There will always be people who want more than what I do, others who don't want as much, but currently there is absolutely zero confirmation to anything being said on this past event. If there's less uncertainty, I would know where I should stand on future issues. Personally, the reason I feel they don't intentionally provide this clarity is because they know they have stances that people will not agree with in mass, and that's how large powerful regimes are toppled. So yes, I personally would respect even words I don't agree with that are backed with some form of transparency. Thank you very much for your insights, it is very helpful understanding as many people as I can when I formulate my decisions and opinions of what's going on around me. |
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| Reply by: ShotForPlaying at Aug 13, '17 21:40 | |
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| Reply by: Brant at Aug 13, '17 21:41 | |
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You have got to be kidding me. Have you even been around as of the last 2 weeks? |
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| Reply by: OneHundredEyes at Aug 14, '17 00:05 | |
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| Anyone two months or older is more danger as a rogue than that dumb cunt clank, wouldn't you agree onehundredeyes ? | |
| Reply by: Menace at Aug 14, '17 00:09 | |
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Yeah clank is a dumb fucker, to bad you diddnt share your thoughts with him yesterday Menace. |
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| Reply by: OneHundredEyes at Aug 14, '17 00:11 | |
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How the tough are mighty when the threat is no longer prominent. Tell clank this next time while he is going rogue. Dont wait till after the man is dead shows bad character. |
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| Reply by: OneHundredEyes at Aug 14, '17 00:14 | |
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Too bad you haven't wrapped your pee sized brain around tagging. Ouuu a scary 30 day old is going to do any more damage than a possible 1% Please remind me of what exactly your line is known for besides failed rebellions and failed rogue attempts. Tell your fuck buddies to try harder in the future, maybe then they could kill someone that is actually capped IWP instead of people who work in Vegas, and claim they are tough mighty warriors because they killed innocents that work for the actual mighty and tough. You are a joke, your fake identity was a joke, you won't be anything but another name in the obits and no one will remember you for being anything more than a weakling that followed those that sniff their own farts and believe that killing randoms and building a gun makes them great You could have tried to have your butt buddies shoot me but sadly that would require like an actual gun that they couldn't achieve, poor little yous. Try again in a few more months, fail again in a few more months. Though what kind of real rebel would rogue and show their true linage, then come back under that linage? |
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| Reply by: Menace at Aug 14, '17 00:33 | |
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You are confused clearly, there was no fake identity im sure ppl knew who clank was. Maybe you get his cock out your mouth and go about your day lol. PS clank has never been apart of a rebellion or rogued before prior. He just refuses to get shoot without shooting someone first. Nothing wrong with that. |
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| Reply by: OneHundredEyes at Aug 14, '17 00:45 | |
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Honestly you can wag your pathetic excuse for a dick around all day Menace, no one's going to suck it. As if an arrogant cunt like yourself is proving no one can change. I'm not sure what part of "They were going to die" don't any of you understand. I highly doubt anyone who had anything close to a spine would just sit there and wait for death. It's easy for someone to point fingers and say "hur dur you never did nuffin around here" when you have larryshortdick's silver cock on your mouth. |
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| Reply by: WaitAndDie at Aug 14, '17 00:49 | |
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| You mean his clit? Bigger than most clits but though a chick he was without a dick, son of dead proer | |
| Reply by: Menace at Aug 14, '17 00:56 | |
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| Your mom did though, thank god as I would hate to be the father if your brother | |
| Reply by: Menace at Aug 14, '17 00:58 | |
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| Ha your bloodlines have rogue in them, if they did rogue so soon because of the fear of death then good you fell to the regime and lost like usual, you went rogue early instead of building and possible ever doing real damage. | |
| Reply by: Menace at Aug 14, '17 01:01 | |
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Are you not the son of someone dead? This discussion is irrelevant as are you. You did not get into your feelings until my father was dead, just relax and build up man not point in being upset. |
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| Reply by: OneHundredEyes at Aug 14, '17 01:04 | |
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| Yap yap yap is all I hear, if you were the real clank you wouldn't be able to as bjorn's dick would be to far down your throat. | |
| Reply by: Menace at Aug 14, '17 01:35 | |
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"So I ask you all, what are you hungry for." Then suddenly "Maybe you get his cock out your mouth" "Honestly you can wag your pathetic excuse for a dick around all day Menace, no one's going to suck it" "when you have larryshortdick's silver cock on your mouth." "a chick he was without a dick" "you wouldn't be able to as bjorn's dick would be to far down your throat."
I... I don't think this was what was intended.
Comedy Gold though. |
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| Reply by: Insidious at Aug 14, '17 20:40 | |
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I'm quite sure it wasn't. Although the irony made me chuckle, too, Insidious. With that said, here's another shining example of why some of us don't care to Street post. A well-spoken and thought-out debate that went from engaging to...shit. Luca's line has been around and can take these things in stride, I'm sure. Not exactly encouraging for the rest of us, though, who may already be afraid to speak for fear of perceived disrespect. Think I'll stick with the Business district. Flicking a can of Spam into the air, she catches it deftly before walking away with a grin. |
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| Reply by: Nikki_Swango at Aug 15, '17 01:37 | |
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ShotForPlaying, was a pleasure, I appreciate the constructive discussion, grazie. OneHundredEyes, though you too are no longer with us, I'll respond to your comments for the benefit of the thinning crowd. Building and training does not specifically associate to your weapon strength. Training newcomers to the shores benefits the community, and yourself. They will have nobody else to look to or owe loyalty to than yourself. Building relationships and your bank balance is also an opportunity that the current climate allows. Both of these will be valuable to your kin one day, when things have perhaps changed and the race to murder things begins again. And signora Swango, lovely as always to see you. You are quite right, the tone is certainly suffering as of late. |
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| Reply by: LucaGiordano at Aug 15, '17 17:10 | |
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