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Conflict Of Interest Started by: MisoHornEh on Aug 14, '17 12:05
As we recently seen one helpdesker discharged for having a conflict of interest , wouldn't this go for any other crew leader being a helpdesker ? It seems if one helpdesker is a crew leader and is a conflict of interest they all would be a conflict of interest being a helpdesker and a crew leader.the same argument could even be made for a helpdesker in a top 3 position in a crew as well.
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The reasoning given in Curtis' quote is ambiguous at best. Without wanting to create more work for him, I think Squishy should actually clarify the reasoning as that gives a false interpretation of events.

However, with that said, if you think it is in the interest of the game to lose two more helpdesks, who have no advantage from their helpdesk accounts, I have no issue with it. 

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It seems if one helpdesker is a crew leader and is a conflict of interest they all would be a conflict of interest being a helpdesker and a crew leader.the same argument could even be made for a helpdesker in a top 3 position in a crew as well.

Can you point out the conflict of interest?  HelpDeskers do not have access to any features or information that gives them an advantage over other players.

The conflict of interest with Disorder extends to the number of whiners, complainers, ill informed and ignorant people who constantly contact me about putting him on a leash.

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I think it should be their choice, continue to be helpdesk or retire. Sure Curtis reason was ambiguous however it stated quite plainly that a helpdesk had a conflict of interest while holding a position of power, we have been assured multiple times this was never going to be the case that they could have a co flict of interest yet here we see a dead helpdesk member because of just that. Don't impose a rule here and there, impose it everywhere. Common sense would be if one helpdesker has a conflict of interest they all do.
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Not to be that guy squishy but by your own reasoning if one can have a conflict it is worthy of no longer being a helpdesk
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I think you are understanding this completely backwards.  *I* am the one with the conflict of interest, not he.  So there are two options. I can quit the game and close it.   Or I can remove Curtis.

Did I choose wrong?

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Also squishy if that is the reason he had a conflict of interest doesn't that just tell people to complain and they will get their way/wish?
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Only going off of the reason "conflict of interest" I did not specify who had the conflict , however that being said couldn't a helpdesk account simply be suspended until the conflict is resolved?
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So what is the proper way to deal with people who just can't accept things?  Do you start as the first example?  Do I continue to just accept it, opening it up to future things like you say?  Or do I put my foot down?

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To be fair - I thought it was a bit strange that Curtis was DD'd over conflict of interest given the fact that Helpdesk has no unfair advantage as we've been told multiple times. But now that Squishy has explained its his OWN conflict of interest (Ie: Tired of dealing with bullshit) he's doing the easiest thing. 

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As stated time and time again there is no conflict of interest for any helpdesk so none need to choose what so ever, as squishy as said Curtis was for the sole reasoning that he couldn't be doing with all the trouble coming from upset players getting the wrong ideas

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only conflict would be if helpdesk was told something that would effect their personal characters. that would easily transfer over to the game.

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helpdesk members really dont need seperate names and all in blue at the top of the players list above the actual players. its GREAT they help answers questions but having them all login to one account or whatever would look more fair

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There is no way for me to Retire someone.  When you terminate an account, it will automatically say Dishonorably Discharged until you type over it with something else.  It had been 5am and a very very very very long day at work, and it looks like I forgot to go back and retype it as Retired.

So, with that being said, I can see how you thought this was hostile towards him and was assigning the conflict of interest to him.  I have now gone back and changed it to something other than DD now that I've had an hour sleep and back at work.

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I appreciate that.

And from my personal perspective; I would much rather not have a Help Desk account than see the already overworked and unfairly harassed owner, have to deal with more salacious accusations and insulting suggestions surrounding the integrity of the HelpDesk staff. 

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helpdesk members really dont need seperate names and all in blue at the top of the players list above the actual players. its GREAT they help answers questions but having them all login to one account or whatever would look more fair

 

That IS how it works. We are all the same account for all intents and purposes, however if we didn't have different names responding to people's questions, how would Squishy or Bunny be able to determine easily who's doing their job, answering things right, etc etc?

This whole thing is...absurd. It's an absolute shame that the ignorant and spiteful people around here pushed hard enough for Izzy to Retire one of our Team.

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"The conflict of interest with Disorder extends to the number of whiners, complainers, ill informed and ignorant people who constantly contact me about putting him on a leash."

 

I'm not here to cause trouble or shit stir so I apologize if it comes across as this because its definitely not the intention, if anything its just mere curiosity and seeking clarification. 

I take it from what has been said in the above quote that it was actually the sheer volume of nonsense being sent to Izzy that has caused this to happen?

If this is the case, does this mean that the actual complaints being made were not valid? If so don't you think that this course of action taken may actual just empower the complainers and spur them on to try the same tactics with other helpdeskers who play?

Although saying that, if my assumption is wrong and the complaints were actually valid then that also poses the exact same problem and the complainers may attempt to use the same method with other players anyway?

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As far as I see it is this Insidious

Squishy had a load of cunts complaining that Curtis was using his helpdesk account to aid Disorder. He was directly in control of that and as such he could not be arsed listening to this utter bollocks and as such lessened the could given to new users.

When it comes to in game complaints it's down to the whiners to man up and kill him. That's directly their responsibility. Curtis was Izzys. Disorder is not.
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