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I find that difficult to say.
As a collective, I don't think there are any like them. Unwavering loyalty and dedication to gain influence as a group. Rumours are that they were very influential in many of the decisions during the recent regime led by Godfather Disorder. Very few of them seem to be engaged in public debates, so their actual views and vision are not widely known.
I think others have very little reason to damn their efficiency as a group. It could simply be matched, given the dedication. If not dedicated on that level, don't blame someone from being better than you. People who have difficulties with their supposed tactics today, will gladly subscribe to their support in coming times, were it to be available to them. Perception of ethics seems to change quite quickly, dependent on who it affects in which manner.
Other than their operational excellence, I always wondered to what extent they enjoyed exercising their influence. Necessity always borders with innecessity, regardless of how far one would stretch either. If I was working the production belt at a manufactoring company for 10 years, there would be no doubt I'm excellent at what I did. But it's in my character to ask myself: "Do I still enjoy the way I operate so effficiently, or could there be a more rewarding way?"
If I would come to the conclusion there was no more rewarding way, I wouldn't pursue it. But otherwise, obviously I would. I don't know who the members of this group are, but after all the assumptions that have been made about them, that is what I would wonder most about.
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