Today Venice Beach was removed. They were supposed to be removed yesterday alongside Black Bottom but sadly JoeKing's irrational actions tiped them off and attack first instead. 

A few days ago, several members of those two districts approached Ishmael and tried to feed him lies about an attack against him being in plans. This was a lie ofcourse. These people were trying to manipulate Ishmael into attacking Las Vegas or New York just to satisfy their sick personal agenda.

In more detail, they alert him of Las Vegas killing him. They send him anonymous notes about who his killer would be. They aproached several members of his crew, about Lincoln taking over Los Angeles after his death and other members of his crew betraying him. They spread the rumor across the country just to make it more believable. Bad luck for them, since Ishmael's bloodline and mine, share a bond that goes back many years. Their lie was easily and quickly discovered.

Ofcourse, many innocent died. This is a shame and I really feel sorry for this. Sadly though, without being able to know who was a part of this fiction that was spread around, we couldn't take any chances. Our members comes first.

A worthy advise to the wrong parties would be, not to include bloodlines that never had ill will towards others into your witch hunting of certain people. Some of us, just don't give a fuck if in an earlier life someone wronged you or not. Some of us, belong in no groups and want to actually try and put some effort in this community and not get in the middle of petty personal differences of other bloodlines.

I personally don't find pleasure into killing people but some things cross a line and there is just no other way. May the dead find peace and especially those that caused all this. Just move on.

want to actually try and put some effort in this community 

What efforts have you put into the community? I'd love to hear of them, as they certainly aren't visible.  

Completely full of lies.

Only cowards turn their back on their own. Even worse when they're pretending to be nice when they're secretly plotting to remove you.

Time and time again you all prove why no-one wants to put in effort anymore.

Andy walks down the street as he hears a familiar voice talking.It was Godfather Diogenis.Andy got himself in the crowd and heard everything that was to hear. Than he starts:"Godfather Diogenis is right. Not many of us enjoy taking out others,friends or unknowns. We just try to make this thing of ours a better place for everyone from gangsters to respected members of the community.And more... incidents like this one and others similar happen just because of some people don't want a brighter future for everyone." As Andy finished his idea he blends in the crowd and leaves.

It's not always clear to see what peoples intentions are especially when they are not speaking directly with you but when you have made a relationship with someone and they convey a message to you about what someone else is saying, then it's pretty clear what has to be done. If Ishmael had come up with false information then that would put his life in jeopardy and also bruise a good relationship he has had with Diogenis.

Diogenis trusted Ishmael and made a plan to act. It's that simple. 

What efforts have you put into the community? I'd love to hear of them, as they certainly aren't visible. 

 XoXo your eyes are clearly opaque. Diogenis is a Godfather in Summerlin Las Vegas, he has one captain called BellaSwan who has a large family and he has a captain called Sarah_Farron, who is new blood by the way, who has a large family. He is working with all the other current leaders towards building this community up and making it a much bigger and more fruitful place to live. 

If people in positions of power want to be idiotic and spread rumors to try and make their position even more powerful then they will need to do a better job of who they tell. We are supposed to be rebuilding this thing of ours and that's the message that gets passed down through our city and district and quite simply that's what we intend to do.

I actually have no doubt that Dio is doing a decent job in his district, I've heard rather positive things about Summerline (despite my utter distaste of Bella Swan). Ms. Farron isn't actually new blood, her bloodline has been around these shores for a long time. A new CL maybe, but not new blood.

However, that's one district out of many. What does that do for the rest of the community? 

Maybe it's not his concern. Maybe he only wants to focus on his district. That's fine, that's his choice. But be clear in speech then, don't make broader claims about the community as a whole. 

Summerlin is a cesspit.  LA was attacked for no reason other than they were getting very powerful.  Ishmael is a good man and a competant Don, but he isn't warlike - if he was, he'd be taken out.

History is repeating itself with these Disorder wannbes.

POLHF is the only way to restore sanity.

It's been widely known for many moons that when you auth someone for the first time it's been called 'new blood'. Although maybe that's just the old timer in me talking. 

As for you emphasizing on the community aspect... I'll try to make this as short as possible because it's something you would need to learn from working with others and I just don't know if taking my valuable time to explain it all in detail would be well spent on you but anyway...

Usually we start off working for the man, getting ourselves into a family. We work for that family and maybe there's a chance for us to one day take our own and lead it. You then have to think about others that have worked hard for you and that you can trust to do the same job for you. Whilst all this is happening you have to also thinking about creating a relationship with other Dons and Godfathers, bring the community together once in awhile. Work for the same goals. 

Small money guys like us don't see what happens behind those closed doors with the big guys but the smarter ones know when it's going on and also when it isn't.

I can tell you right now that the majority of the leaders right now are working for the same goals, improving their own districts, working with other districts to achieve the same end. This in turn is helping the community. 

So do you now have a better understanding of why and how the community is helped? Everyone in the community does their own part and in turn that helps the community to grow. 

It's when someone wishes to go against the grain and push the community in a different direction then all that hard work becomes null and void unless precautionary measures are taken to make sure that things move forward in a certain direction.

If you want to get a more in depth version then just give me a call (mob mail) and I'll explain everything to you. 

I don't need your explanation. I am not some salty child new to these shores that needs your old wisdom to "open their eyes" to the way things are. I know how things are and I know how they work. I also know they can be done better and more visibly. I know you can work to improve your own district and your city and the community as a whole at the same time. I know you can be public and less cloak and dagger about things. I've seen it done and hopefully one day it will be done again. 

I haven't insulted anyone and I won't insult anyone. I asked a very valid question about a statement your Godfather made. I've yet to actually get an answer and I doubt I will, because there is no answer. The community as a whole is in a very lulled and quiet state, although thanks to certain people the story telling aspect has been on the upswing lately, so props to those individuals for that success.  

I also disagree with the labeling of JoeKing as irrational, but that's another argument for another day. 

Well why did you bring up point about the community and saying they aren't visible when they clearly are visible. Kharon came out to the streets a couple of times and relayed on the message about the community working together and the leaders coming together to rebuild. 

Do you think Diogenis stayed away from these meetings and just carried on working with his own district? I highly doubt that. 

What more evidence do you need? I wouldn't have tried to spoon feed you if you had of thought about what you were saying in the first place.

So there really isn't anything he needs to explain to you.

The powers that be had their opportunity to try to work with the community, and rebuild trust. They didn't take it. It can be no great wonder that people in the community don't trust them now. I'll be perfectly honest, my father was surprised that the peace lasted as long as it did. He expected fighting in the first week. But he always was a bit of a pessimist.

Diavolo heard a Godfather in his city speak on the matter at hand, and heard many people complaining about what happened. He kinda chuckled and thought that they were being a bit outlandish.

" I am sorry but I can't say Godfather Dio is wrong in his doing, I will admit if it had been me the second Disorder went down I'd have done my best to rally my city and take over the game. The fact that they even tried to work with the powers that were is impressive and says a ton about their character."

"I must also add I count myself extremely lucky and happy that I'm under leadership that doesn't hesitate to pull the trigger on people that need it. I'm glad that they took care of people that needed to be taken care of."

"Now this isn't me saying I'm glad that people had to die, and are dead. I am just saying I commend my leadership. Overal though rest in peace to the fallen and may business continue as usual on the living side of things."

Diavolo nods his hat and smalls to Godfather Dio before exiting the scene of the gathering.

A painfully truthful reasoning, and people still bitch about it.

I now understand why some in the past have used bus accidents to explain removals. I mean, might as well have fun with it.

Maybe that's the story they will use on you when your time comes.

I personally hate those bus accidents. Things that are so full of lies are distasteful but if its your thing then maybe they can accommodate you.

Personally, I hate excuses in general.

If there is a legit reason to remove a leader, then I believe the people should hear that reason. When I say legit reason, I dont mean one that the entire world will agree with, regardless of why someone decides to kill another, there will always be people that dont like that reason, but provided the shooter themselves feels they are doing the right thing then I feel they should have the balls to own it and tell the world why they did it.

If someone chooses to remain silent after they make a move, then imo they either dont feel strong enough about the reason, or dont care enough about the community to explain themselves.

I hope I'm accommodated for that luxury as well. 'Least then my child could put up a rather valid argument. Of course I'll raise him better than to whine and whimper. Speaking of which... POLHF... 

LA was attacked for no reason other than they were getting very powerful.  Ishmael is a good man and a competant Don, but he isn't warlike - if he was, he'd be taken out.

How did you get any of that from this speech? Let me guess, you thought it therefore believe it rather than having the blunt honest truth delivered to you? As embarrassing as it is to accept, allow me to help you through this so that your offspring may have solace knowing that the people in a position of power right now has an objective beyond satisfying some petty vendetta. The reason why Venice Beach were removed is because of multiple attempts to manipulate Ishmael, such aversions can't coexist when it's evident that these rumors were all made up. You're entitled to your own opinion and beliefs but if you're going to challenge anyone with them please come with some kind of substance that led you to believe it.

Rest in Peace to all of the fallen and as previously stated to the trouble that caused such bloodshed, move on.

Actually Dizzi, the bus story was used when my ancestor was removed. I didn't bitch about it, I didn't mind about it, just found it weird. Now I get it.

My children won't be salty when my time comes. I wasn't salty when my father Prati was removed by the Disorder regime either. It is what it is. If nobody died this would be very boring...