Today trolling around IRC avenue a conversation of sorts was brought up. "Why are people allowed to jump from their crew, whore members, and get Godfather with minimal effort at best?"

Indeed, why should these people be able to obtain the rank of Godfather (a supposedly coveted rank) without ever truly being a leader first? Anyone can buy an HQ and whore 30 people. That is not how our world is supposed to work. But, until it is hardwired into the code these instances will continue to happen.

So as a simple solution that was suggested, it should be implemented that before someone can obtain the rank of Godfather, they must have a active HQ with 30 members for 30 days before the option even becomes available (Even if they have the points).

I agree. It sickens me to see people who have quite literally JUST set up get the highest rank we have to offer in mere minutes because they know how to whore properly. Ensuring that they need have a crew for 30 days alone would take care of this problem, though I think your idea of having them have 30 members is an even better one. Personally, I would drop it down to having a crew for 30 days with 25 members, because not all people start with a 50 man HQ, and even with my way, it still forces them to be an actual leader before reaping the rewards of becoming a GF.

Among my other trollings on IRC, a question has arisen.

You must have an HQ for 30 days. Not 30 members for 30 consecutive days. On the 30th day you have had the HQ and you have 30 members, GF is obtainable.

I would agree that people should not be able to obtain GF without certain control measures in place. Going from a normal crew member to GF if something that can and has been abused. I like the idea of a perosn having a HQ for a certain period of time before they can obtain Godfather.

Indeed. It is another war tactic that is a massive pain in the arse.

The only issue is if a leader dies by Gun Malfunction and his successor is over taken by someone who was not taken. I.e another leader in the city who was not associated to the Godfather. I know it's rare but may not be in the future?

Well then that would create some controversy wouldn't it? My favorite. There is no such thing as a rightful successor in the mafia.

Well, it all depends if that comes in.

There is/was talk of a crewleader/Godfather handing their crew over to a selected person. Written properly into the code and happens automatically. Hence why I raised the point.

I think its fine the way it is. After all, isnt the way you gain power is to take it? Do we forget the Johnny Reese's and UncleNicky's of the past that didn't ask for auth...but took it...and mowed down anyone in their path that contested it?

My the points, time and members is enough requirement in my book for Godfather, who are you to decide someone elses tactics and idea's? You have the same opportunities as everyone else. Capitalize on it.

Agreed Gideon... it is far to easy to become a GF as long as you have been alive for a while. Its all about points and not about achievment at the moment.

I think it is best the way it is right now, It is an important part of tactics during war and it is there for every one !

It's not all to do with the war tactic ! This rank shouldn't be so easily gained, this rank is the RANK off all ranks and with people being able to get it so cheaply, cheapens the meaning of the rank. This should be a lot harder to attain it.

The rank of Godfather has become the whore'd out younger sister of the ranks. Anyone with zero skill or leader ship ability can do it if they live long enough and do enough jails, then rogue and whore 30 members. It's happened time and time again. Obtaining the status of top dog should not be a mere "war tactic" and should not be obtainable to just anyone, it should be obtained by LEADERS.

Some might argue (myself included) that on the occasion when GF is not obtained by a "LEADER" deserving of the rank that the collective Mafia community fixes things pretty swiftly with war anyway. Thus balancing things out.

I for one prefer to see as few things hardcoded as possible as it leads to more flexible and less predictable gameplay.

Goooo Squishy!

I personally like this addition. Only one question though. What is to stop a Godfather from loaning his hitters to the guy he wants to get GF? Could he not just transfer them over, they complete the task, and then they move back. Sounds as if we have the same problem with only 1 more step.

Frankly, I believe godfather should have alot larger requirements. Such as having to kill a real playing godfather(As opposed to passing the script test) to gain the rank of godfather. This could be done at any point in your characters life, so long as you have killed at least one godfather. This would make it a bit harder to obtain the rank and people would have to really work for it. It would also force people to think with more strategy and force them to build up a good family in order to take the godfather down. As opposed to the families that just coast by and grab godfather when they get the chance.

Just my two cents. 

What if, by some ridiculous turn of events, TheDean and Roman wackbacked to death. No more people could become Godfather. Doesn't really work that :P

I hope you haven't just jinxed them now Branston :p

I think if anything Squishy this could hurt the game. Although it would provide protection for those that are godfather already it would take away the aspect of someone waiting then setting up as a rogue to get Godfather and make a game change.

There's plenty of things in this game that don't make sense and aren't realistic but this is one that can prove vital. This could prove to add stagnancy which I know everyone hates.