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| You've Just Been Rip'd | Started by: Rip-Torn on Aug 17, '10 21:12 |
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Leaving out of MR_AC office, Rip immediately approaches the mobsters and leaders in the streets.
Hello all!
Once again, I would like to congratulate all of the new leaders in which were authed as CL's within the City of Chicago. My respect is paid to every last one of you.
Also as Godfather Roman has said and stated, we are now rebuilding and reconstructing Chicago, and being that the garbage in this mafioso has finally been taken out, we can now focus on OUR cities and its residents. Doesnt that sound beneficial?
Furthermore, I have witnessed some side discussions that was being said during GF Roman's speech in regards to Jonnie_Reese's uprise as CL. He said that we should take that discussion elsewhere, and elsewhere is here.
Rip then stands around for the first discussor. |
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Quick correction, I meant to say "Jonnie's speech but GF Roman's feedback and reply". I didnt mean any confusion.
Rip then steps back off to the side. |
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| Reply by: Rip-Torn at Aug 17, '10 21:28 | |
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The big issue opened in Jonnie's speech was seeing people who have attained very little success of their own try to knock down a guy who has been a stellar worker since entering Chicago with me several weeks ago. They are either folks who survived the last war or are kin to those that died in the war. Now, LinuxPanda keeps waving a censorship flag around, and frankly who cares? When I looked last it's not like we followed the Bill of Rights, and people keep get killed for exercising their First Amendment 'rights' all the time. It's important to note that if you have something that you potentially view as controversial that you want to spout out, always remember your audience. No one wants to hear obnoxious people during a celebration about a new family. It's as simple as that. |
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| Reply by: Roman at Aug 18, '10 09:31 | |
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Freedom of speech? The First Amendment? These our alive and well in our world. They will help protect you...from being arrested by the government for what you say. We are not the government. In fact any of us who have been sent to jail on a drug deal or trying to arrange an early release from prison for one of our friends can tell you... |
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| Reply by: Captain_Stubing at Aug 18, '10 11:09 | |
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You are right. People definitely try to pull out the First Amendment when they feel like they are being persecuted for what they say. There is obviously a complete lack of understanding about the First Amendment and the Bill of Rights.
That being said - it is also true that it is alive and well in our community. People are absolutely free to say whatever they want. (Noting, however, that not even the First Amendment permits you to say WHATEVER you want.) The Godfathers cannot stop you from saying whatever you want. But often times there will be consequences.
But note this as well: the Godfathers have actually been very good about permitting people to speak, and even to disagree with what they say. It's a matter of respect. If you disagree and do it in a respectful way, you'll be fine. Discussion will ensue and perhaps you will come to some sort of accord. But you're not going to be killed for having a different opinion than a Godfather. And frankly, they don't even have to do that. They could just institute a rule that anybody who disagrees with a Godfather will be killed. End of. But they're not going to do that. They are, however, going to demand that you treat them with respect. And I would say - they've earned that much from those of us who have accomplished very little in this world.
Bitterness obviously leads to an inability to make valid points and arguments. Have something to say? Say it. Do it the right way and you'd be surprised at the response. |
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| Reply by: Andrew_Paxton at Aug 18, '10 12:55 | |
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LinuxPanda yawns, feeling rather tired of all of the bullshit that litters the streets.
So, we are to just fizzle out, eh, Roman? I do not believe so. You can only fool the people for so long. As for the whole theory of me being a descendant from a family of the recent wars, you couldn't be more wrong. You are simply throwing out the same guesses everyone would throw out when attacked by someone they can't control. For, it is easier to say I am a "noob" with a grudge than it is to combat my arguments. That seems to be the way nowadays. I miss the times when leaders would actually fight for their leadership, both in the streets and with their guns. Obviously, all you can do is pave your road for "The Greater Good". All this talk of rank meaning something. I scoff at you, sir. You should be worried more about the wellbeing of the community and the future leaders than things such as "rank is important". Considering the streets have been littered with people wailing about how important rank is and where it's place is in our society. Ninety percent of your auths are based on friendship rather than talent. Though, that seems to be the way of this world in recent years. Unlike the days when CP ruled, you don't need much talent to get anywhere. You just have to know Roman.
LinuxPanda smirks and wanders back to his cardboard box.
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| Reply by: LinuxPanda at Aug 18, '10 13:05 | |
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Magua comes out into the streets with his peace pipe in hands, as he begins to hand it off between the crowd of people witnessing this conversation, Magua puts on his chiefs hat full of war feathers and other trophies he has collected from his people...
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| Reply by: Magua at Aug 18, '10 13:56 | |
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Simple answer, Magua. My family line has been around these shores for some time. I speak my own mind when it comes to matters and I will not let the fact that he is a godfather tarnish my opinions. If people decide to scoff at what I have to say, so be it. It was still said and in my mind that is all that matters. Yes, this is the mafia, but just because it is so, doesn't mean people are not allowed to have opinions. This is where you throw in the "It's their decision and you and an insignificant fuck" card. You see, the problem is that every time someone like myself pops up to attack the leaders through speech, they are always bent to the will of the community or they go insane and start ranting about shit that has nothing to do with their original approach. No matter how this affects my descendants if they ever decide to return to these shores, I have spoken my mind and I believe my message is quite clear. |
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| Reply by: LinuxPanda at Aug 18, '10 14:04 | |
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You state that this is the mafia and it doesn't mean people aren't allowed to have opinions, when you are wrong completely. In the mafia you do what you're told by your superiors. You opinions matters not at all. So yes, people will jump down your throat for said opinions. If you can't see that, then you honestly shouldn't be playing in the first place to be honest. |
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| Reply by: Magua at Aug 18, '10 14:10 | |
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What exactly do you mean by playing? Are we playing a game here? If so, I wish you had let me in on the secret. The flaw to your plan is that in the olden days, people still spoke their mind. Yes, they were killed for it, but they spoke their mind. It doesn't matter if this is the mafia or the corner market. People will say what they want. |
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| Reply by: LinuxPanda at Aug 18, '10 14:12 | |
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The olden days are the olden days, times change. Peoples view on things change, it's always changing. You obviously have seen people come out time and time again voicing opinions and it causing nothing but headaches for everyone. Why you would want to waste your time around these streets after saying you want to leave and never come back is still mind boggling to me. |
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| Reply by: Magua at Aug 18, '10 14:15 | |
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Oh, but you see, I am not wasting my time. If I were wasting my time, such esteemed people like yourself would not be here in the streets debating such trivial subjects, now would they? Obviously, by your reaction to my opinions, they have struck a cord. If not, you would simply walk away from the debate. As for causing headaches for everyone, that's is the way it should be. People should be forced to think, to debate. These streets are here for a reason.
However, I believe you are speaking of my ancestors when you say "Fulfill what you say you will do", for clearly, I have not stated that I will leave and not come back. |
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| Reply by: LinuxPanda at Aug 18, '10 14:48 | |
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I guess I'm going to have to read the scripts of those other speeches. All I heard here was a debate about whether people can and/or will say whatever they want, but I have not seen much substance debated other than the right to give an opinion. |
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| Reply by: GaylordFocker at Aug 18, '10 15:13 | |
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In regards to what Captain_Stubing said.
I totally agree with him. Linux you have showed nothing but disrespect towards Jonnie, matter of fact, towards the whole mafia and in the coming days you will suffer your actions consequences. That being said, along with what Captain also said, me either will not dignify your bitterness and in my eyes, your jealousy carryouts. One day you shall learn my friend. |
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| Reply by: Rip-Torn at Aug 18, '10 17:32 | |
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In all honestly, I can barely understand half of what you said, with the poor grammar and all. However, onward to the pieces I can translate.
"...and in the coming of days, you will suffer for your actions consequences."
As I have already stated, I fully understand the repercussions of my actions and I will face them without fear.
"...me either will not dignify your bitterness and in my eyes, your jealousy carryouts."
Alright, I do not really understand the last half of this..It's quite blotchy in my mind. Though, it looks as if you are attempting to say I am jealous of Chicago and what they have achieved? If anything, my goal is to insure that it does not occur again. Thus, why would I be jealous of them? I do not wish to become them, nor do I wish to lead as they lead. If anything, I pity the citizens of Chicago for being under leaders such as Jonnie_Reese and Roman.
"Linux you have showed nothing but disrespect towards Jonnie, matter of fact, towards the whole mafia..."
You think I do not know this? Technically, I am not a member of your secret organization. That being said, I need not adhere to your customs of respect. I'm just another every day gangster. Alas, being in a position of power doesn't give you the right to demand respect. Whether you like to believe it or not, in most people's eyes, you must earn it. No matter if you are a Thug or a Godfather. That being said, I do not respect any leading member of the city of Chicago.
Toodles. |
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| Reply by: LinuxPanda at Aug 18, '10 20:36 | |
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| Reply by: Magua at Aug 18, '10 23:12 | |
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I had a conversation with him myself, Magua.
It went from being a simple discussion regarding what makes some bloodlines more successful then others to personal slurs against me. The poor guy had twisted hatred of some bloodlines and values together till the turned into something unrecognizable. His debating skills suffered as well.
No loss for a no note. |
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| Reply by: Ancalagon at Aug 18, '10 23:19 | |
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