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| Increase PP amount! | Started by: Boogie on Jan 31, '18 07:05 |
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How do I say this? Simply put, PPing isn’t fun. When I first started playing the game I used to PP to get people riled up. At that point I had come from another site where we used to “loot” players just to piss them off. I came here & got excited because I thought I’d be able to take out of someone’s pockets what I’ve been seeing in my top left corner. Just to find out I could only take $5k at max...WTF is that?! Then, here’s the kicker! I only took $5k but yet there’s a possibility to lose 5x that amount ALONG with my gun?! So in other words I’m gaining nothing but losing way more.
I see all these PP policies, some city rules about PPing, and the whole “let me message this guy he really just grinded my gears (my personal favorite). I understand the whole respect thing, and I understand some people do it for the xp, but damnit can we please add some fun to this? If we could take more money I personally think it would add more flavor to the game. We already have the restrictions of not being able to overstep our boundaries as far as not being able to put your hands in the pocket of someone that outranks us by far. What do you guys say? Increase the amount for a pickpocket?
Opinions? What does this need to go into effect? Do I need to do a survey or something lol |
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PPing should be just as fun as mugging...if not even MORE fun. ;D |
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| Reply by: Boogie at Jan 31, '18 07:06 | |
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It would be sweet if we could fight back while getting mugged. Like, have some sort of duel mechanism, a mug battle, if you will. Winner gets money.
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| Reply by: Requiem at Jan 31, '18 07:34 | |
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I’m all for whatever’s going to make PPing fun. My only thing about your contribution is this: what would the deciding factor that’d make you or me the winner of the mug battle? Physique? Would there be a timer of how long I needed to click whatever option to fight back? Etc etc.
listen I’m all for whatever. I just find it that one of the best features is going to waste. 1) If you have the balls to walk around with a million dollars, you should expect the unexpected. I’m from real life Brooklyn & if I’m gonna walk around with a chain that cost 50k$ I’m expecting the unexpected. 2) If you have the balls to rob me for my 50k$ chain? & on top of that you’re not stealthy? You can expect to get shot in your fucking face. Now Squishy before you come tell us about the CLs? I don’t see why they’d ban PPing. First of all, it’s a very important part of the game because it’s one of the features that give xp. I’ve even seen some people back when I first started using the PP method to test someone’s vision or to even test out how stealthy they’d be. Im not worried about someone taking out an entire city because of ONE PP. If that happens? & everybody CL has that mentality? They’re morons. I know personally that my current CL, and he’ll even my FIRST CL, would’ve tried to talk the entire thing out & maybe even ask for double compensation if I could even see who PP’d me for let’s say 350k$. If he didn’t budge then that’ll be a different story. Again, what do I need to do for this to happen? |
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| Reply by: Boogie at Jan 31, '18 08:18 | |
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You used to be able to PP someone for all they had. The CLs stood up and banned it. Now we have a feature no one was allowed to use. We watered down PP so that it would be allowed to be used again. We had to make a ruling telling CLs they cant ban a feature. (This is stupid) The people who got PP'd complained so loudly that it drove the CLs nuts. We wrote in Mug so that the CLs could be taken out of the loop and users could handle issues themselves without having to spend massive amount so of time dealing with petty angry users demanding peoples heads on a stick.
So, with your modification, please explain how this feature will improve the site? Users will just get killed for using it. (Right now its a harmless feature that doens't get improperly trained users killed) Users will just get killed for using it. (Crew goes to war over escalation because of some guy you don't know PP'd some guy you don't know) Users will just get killed for using it. (I have to kill a CL and upper structure for banning a feature, their members then get killed off for being unsponsored) Users will just get killed for using it. (I have to kill a CL for and upper structure banning a feature, this changes the power dynamic, and crews that were waiting for the right time to war them now pounce. You just died because some guy you don't know PP'd some guy you don't know) I just don't see any upside to this at all that just doesn't end up with people being either heavily restricted, miserable, or dead, so that someone could PP for a few dollars more. :/ I fully know I'm coming across as a negative Nancy here, but I think you underestimate the cry-complaint-demand-rage that waaaaaaay too much of the pussified population of the game has when they get PP'd. It's almost as if you took away their last chicken tendy on their 3rd birthday. |
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| Reply by: Squishy at Jan 31, '18 13:30 | |
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I don't think it'd necessarily be a bad idea to allow a successful pickpocket to take 1%-5% of a user's on hand cash depending on the pickpocketer's skill. The amount stolen would be down to what the victim decided to have flaunting around on their wealth status, and if rules are already in place to prevent a feature from being banned I don't see why we shouldn't be open to changing it if the majority wants it. |
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| Reply by: Yacht at Jan 31, '18 18:04 | |
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I'm not going to bullshit you. This modification of a feature as you called it doesn't improve the site significantly. Nor does it take away from it. I'm not saying go back to those days of someone PPing everything someone has to offer. Not sure about everybody else but I damn sure don't keep all my $ in one pocket. What I'm saying is, increase the cap amount. Be honest, we both know 5k$ is bullshit bro. It may have been cool to calm the fire back then but now? You could increase the cap to say about 50-75kish. You could even use Yacht's idea of adding a lowly %. Probably even higher than 5%. What about 10%! I'm not saying program it to the point where every PP is a shitload of money, bcus even now I might not get the whole 5k$ off somebody. All I'm saying is this. I find it wild how I can suffer more off of a mug than I can off of gaining with a PP. Some people are able to wipe their ass with a million dollars. Some make a million a day. 5k$?! Come one. Like Yacht said we already have it set up where a CL can't banned PPing. Nor am I asking for a hug change like "shut giz me all ya monies!!" All I'm saying is, a higher cap than 5k wouldn't hurt the game as much as it would help the revival of PPing. I really love to PP. (no homo) It's a really unique feature I've only seen here. |
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| Reply by: Boogie at Feb 01, '18 01:14 | |
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P.S There are TWO inevitable things that's going to happen. 1) People are gonna cry. You can give everybody a max account with a billion free creds. They'd still find something to cry about. "It's boring please go back". Same people that complained about the stuff during the golden ages, are the same ones complaining for the golden ages to come back. 2) People are gonna die. Not by you, by you, 10 years ago, 10 years from now etc etc. |
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| Reply by: Boogie at Feb 01, '18 01:17 | |
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There's no need to pickpocket someone for all they have, but maybe management can increase the number a bit. I don't know, maybe allow us to steal their drugs and allow us to pick pocket up to 25k. I don't think that anyone will go to war over 25k. |
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| Reply by: Pepe_Lucio at Feb 01, '18 21:47 | |
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Why? Why would you want that? If you want to steal people’s money, take full vision and mug them. Ez pz
there’s already enough complaining about that, don’t need to add more in my opinion |
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| Reply by: The_Kid at Feb 02, '18 04:28 | |
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So tell me this The_Kid Are people complaining about the amount of CAP MONEY (which is currently 5k) coming out of their pocket? Or are people complaining about the lack of respect for the fact that someone has the balls to even go in their pockets? Also, tell me another thing. Is there much of a problem to raise the cap to 25k? Why don't you think it should be raised?
So far the score is 3-1 |
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| Reply by: Boogie at Feb 02, '18 05:05 | |
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I can relate to everything Squishy said. Sometimes it's just not worth the backlash. I was around when PP's were a lot more money in your pockets, I was one of the leaders who got sick and tired of people bitching and moaning in my inbox, I was one of those leaders that had to listen to death threats and shots that were taken, and I was one of the leaders that got so sick and tired of it that said "Nope. No more. Don't pocket others unless you have their permission in writing!". We just wanted to end the daily whining and crying. Thus came the "PP Friendly" tags and Squishy's eventual capping of how much you took. People that were just about to bank would complain. People that were just selling drugs with no chance to bank would complain. People that were buying bodyguards in a large number would complain. (This was before upkeep and training when you paid for a fully trained and healthy bodyguard up front.) All people did was bitch and complain to us leaders, the staff got mail about it too. All in all, it's not worth upping the cap in my eyes. Not worth it at all.
So make that a 3-2. What Squishy says actually DID happen and I don't blame him for not wanting to go through that again. |
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| Reply by: MeadMaiden at Feb 02, '18 05:18 | |
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make it upto 50k |
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| Reply by: Tristan at Feb 02, '18 11:56 | |
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Boobie, people complain someone steals 5k off of them. Imagine if they would get all their money stolen, we wouldn’t hear the last of it. I don’t mind raising it to 25k thought, that sounds reasonable to me |
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| Reply by: The_Kid at Feb 02, '18 13:10 | |
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I am not for this. I am good to leave it where it's at. |
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| Reply by: Cherry at Feb 02, '18 15:55 | |
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Why are we doing anger management in a game? Shouldn't the game have a clear vision on how things should be?
I wonder what people do when they lose all their money in a casino or dice. Do they cry to someone too? You've took that chance, it's on you. I'm all for changing this to anything but what it is now. I'm even fine with it reverted back to the old days. People need to learn how the game works, not cry over a river and dictate this is wrong because I lost all my cash, when I could have negated it all by simply clicking a button and not being a cheeky lazy person. (P.S: The button is called "Deposit") |
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| Reply by: Heartbeat at Feb 02, '18 19:25 | |
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It got bumped up, Go Boogie ;) |
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| Reply by: Tristan at Feb 03, '18 05:28 | |
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I also agree, I don’t think a new feature is needed but maybe up the money to around $25k? No matter what you do or don’t do, there will always be people who complain. |
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| Reply by: Heathro at Feb 14, '18 01:44 | |
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