I bored, fed up ..I hate the current leaders ..I hate Roman, I hate TheDean and I HATE YOU!!

Oooh, so many good reasons to mess up a good reputation, eh? err..or not?

I sometimes wonder what goes through the heads of a rogue and so far, I am yet to come up with anything valid.
A man or a woman, signs up to this thing of ours, declares their never ending trust, loyalty and respect to that leader.
This person works hard, day in day out, earning money and slowly reaping through the ranks and then one day, they turn around to the one person who gave them a chance in life, gave them a home and protection with a big smile of "F*ck You! boss, I'm out!"

There goes another rogue ..

The disgrace of that one man or woman on that one event is an event that will be remembered throughout their bloodline history, so while they think it's alright, it'll all be over by morning and my child can just carry on..well, no.
It is in my opinion, that when one person decides to turn around and bitch slap their leader with such dishonesty, disrespect and disloyalty, their family line should forever be treated like the two-faced, back stabbing bitch that their parent has proved the line to be.

But people change ..yes, indeed they do, but not in any time soon, anyone who has a parent who has once pulled such a stunt should always be considered a "Flight Risk" and with that, be watched like a little hawk, lets not forget, it's in their blood, once a rogue, always a rouge, or I could of course be wrong, some people have changed, we've known people from the past who have rogued and their family line still walks our streets today at some what quite respectable ranks, but hey, if you consider it bloodline hunting for being extra cautious of these people and their past, you're wrong, because I'm not saying shoot them, I'm saying never truly trust them.

Not overly sure where my point of this speech is going, but there was one when I started, or I have already made it ..

Yep, I've already made it;

"Going rogue doesn't only kill you, but it kills the heart of your family who trusted you and had faith in your abilities to promote you as one of their Button men/woman - So have a heart, obey the Omerta and say NO! to Rogue!"

There's no valid excuse for Rouge's, only selfish reasons.


p.s
I don't really hate TheDean or Roman :P

My friend, trust you to state the bleeding obvious. Of course going Rogue is a selfish act... when was the last time someone came to the streets and said "So-and-so doesn't like how things are run, so i'm going rogue to sort it out for them."?

People go Rogue for 1 main reason... their life sucks. they have delusions of grandeur, they believe this life and their CL owes them something, a chance at power and glory... and lets face it, we'll not all make it there, if we did, there would be...

Death takes a quick head count

... 527 1 man crews running around our 8 cities. However when the bubble finally bursts for these poor deluded souls it is too much for their fragile psyche and they blow up... no obviously I don't mean they literally blow up, although that would be fun to watch...

Death drifts off to an imaginary world where Rogues explode showing luckless goomba's with blood and gore whilst he pirouettes through the macabre setting lifting wallets from the startled Associates as he goes

... sorry what was I saying? oh yes, explodes. They lash out and try to spoil other peoples success. You have a Model A ford and I only have a Model T? I'll pour coke on it and watch the paint bubble. You have a crew and I don't, well then i'll just shoot you in the face.

I don't blame the individuals, I blame our criminal Health Service and our appaling lack of Metal heath care. We need more Electric Shock treatment centres and we need them now!

I would agree with you that more of these establishments should be licenced to deliver the shock treatment that you are so obviously keen on. My main concern though , is the power company going to be able to deliver the amount required,or are the ordinary citizens going to be deprived of power while the shock treatment is carried out?

It obviously has to be carried out on a regular basis otherwise the treatment will not be effective for these poor souls. As such,it seems to be quite a burden for the citizens,in whatever city these treatment centres are located in, to contend with.

I think it is probably better and more humane to shoot them and put them out of there misery.

This is a less common problem then the days when my family first began in the old world.   Earners at the time would pop up with deadlier force then the rogues of today thankfully.  However one loss is always one too many.  As a man who's family line has never commited an act of roguedom I sometimes look at rogues with confusion; sometimes coz of incompetence, reasoning or purpose.

I can understand people getting bored of this life, i can even understand them holding grudges against people as at one stage or another many of us have thought bad of someone.  The fact is how we work for a family and hold our tongue and gun when dealing with these people for the sake of the family.  I will never claim to like everyone who is in power, has been in power or will be in power as is just the way of the world but I take it as if i don't like them someone else musnt either and if they are an ass to enough people the powers that be will rid them of their mortal shell.

rubs the stubble on his chin

We have the opportunity for growth, welath and progress for now so that should be the priority whether is to bodyguard yourself up, build your gun on coma patients and those unwanted's of society or achieve what once was difficult if not near impossible.  When you sign to a family they protect you, train you and help you become what you are; is that really worth anything these days to some?

i know it is to me.....

walks of to find a bar for a rest

Once upon a time a Rogue or Rouge as many of you call it could make a decent attempt at destabilising the way of life the heads of the cities run. However times have changed and it is much much more difficult to be successful in becoming a rogue and lasting hours upon end shooting the city leaders.

Of course the way things are run will not be everyones favourite flavour, this will mean either they'll do something silly like rogue, or try to bring things down from the inside, or perhaps even gain auth and try to build themselves up to be powerful enough to take over the current regime.

Going rogue in this day and age is pointless, sure you may get off a few shots but you will make no impact at all in the way of life. It's this reason that rogues are becoming something of a rarity these days. The people responsible for the recent attacks informed the world that it wasn't a rogue attack, but a war focused on bringing down the current figure heads over in Chi-town. However 1 whisper of the word rogue and it's now a hot topic. I suppose it's never a bad thing to see a little more activity out here in the streets though.

"People go Rogue for 1 main reason... their life sucks."

To be quite honest, the quality of the rogue's life typically has nothing to do with the choices he/she makes. Boredom, anger, and revenge are the REAL reasons why people rogue. Perhaps instead of teaching some kind of "blind hatred" for rogues, let them decide for themselves whether it's right or wrong, based on their own environment.

For instance, 28 of 30 crew members are slaughtered in their sleep. You wake up to find that only you and a companion are the last living members of your crew. Is it "right" to rogue, or surrender to the enemy? In my day, it was disgusting to quit out on a family because your leader died. Unheard of, actually. Yet, now we have allowed this sort of activity to occur, mainly because people are too worried to "give up what they've worked for" (OOC: Your rank, money, gun, whatever the hell you justify it with).

I'm not agreeing with rogues, nor am I opposing them. I would prefer people observe and analyze situations, and decide for themselves if it was right or wrong. Don't automatically place "rogues" in some kind of psychologically disturbed group of individuals who are too dumb to realize who they're shooting at. In some cases, rogues are heroes. Ask Jonnie_Reese about his namesake, years ago. Ask Roman, too. His ancestors were a part of it as well. They were the greatest of their time, and yet we still refer to rogues as pieces of shit?

Just something to think about.

Fighting on when your family is at war and not surrendering is not generally seen as 'Going Rogue' at least not where I come from. 'Going Rogue' is buying out of an established family and setting up on your own without authorization. Roman wasn't a Rogue, he was a hero to many, the man who when the shit hit the fan refused to surrender and fought an unwinnable war until he had somehow miraculously won. His Leader was attacked in open warfare, ergo, no rogue.

As for their lives sucking...

Boredom - Well if you went rogue because you are bored, I guess you life sucks. After all, my life doesn't suck and I'm not bored. In all honesty if you go Rogue for this reason then not only does you life suck, but you are also a pathetic excuse for a mafioso. If you life sucks so much that you are tired of it, then by all means shoot yourself in the face.

Anger - Your Boss was murdered, your father was murdered, your sister was murdered, you where pick pocketed to within an inch of your life, you missed the Denny's Bake sale by 2 minutes and can't buy a half price Apple Pie with your Shrimp platter. So what? It comes down once more to your life sucks. You are angry with someone, everyone, no one, yourself or anyone and so you buy out and declare war. I hope my life never sucks that much that I decide to throw it away in what I feel will be a blaze of glory but that turns out to be more of a single spark during rainy season.

Revenge - You want revenge, there is only one way to get it. Rank up, get auth, start a family, prove the doubters wrong, and then kick their asses. Rogues who buy out and set up on their own under the auspices of revenge are just doing so because their life sucks and they realize they will never succeed in the accepted manner.

Essentially any reason you can think of for going Rogue comes down to your life being shit, no matter how you want to dress it up or how you want to portray it otherwise. Just my thoughts on it.

I have to agree with Mr Death, however much it pains me.
When your family is at war, if your leader falls, I do not consider it rogue to carry on the fight regardless, I see it more as keeping your loyalty and respect to the family name.
If my leader fell in war, I would carry on the fight, revenge the death or die trying, it's totally different.

As for Novus' comment regarding jumping ship because the person doesn't want to lose all their hard work, then anyone who would feel like that should be in this thing of ours, I pitty anyone who would jump ship after war and anyone who would rather save themselves rather than defending the family honour.

In this life we chose, it's very rare that people die of natural causes, so better to die with honour than to die later a coward and a disgrace to the family name.

People should go rouge more often.

It is such a pretty colour. Really attractive.

Best of luck getting your Button, Craig :P

As for Novus' comment regarding jumping ship because the person doesn't want to lose all their hard work, then anyone who would feel like that should be in this thing of ours, I pitty anyone who would jump ship after war and anyone who would rather save themselves rather than defending the family honour.

In this life we chose, it's very rare that people die of natural causes, so better to die with honour than to die later a coward and a disgrace to the family name.

I couldn't agree more with this.  I have seen this happen way to much as of late.  A war breaks out people jumping ship likes it's set ablaze and joining the enemy just to save their own asses.  If you join a family and you take an oath to become a made man then going to the enemy should never, ever be an option.  Do the respectable thing, fight for your newly deceased boss or Godfather and go down like a man.

If you join a family and you take an oath to become a Made Man then going to the enemy should never, ever be an option

Amen.

I agree sometimes I can relate though when you feel you must act on a certain event say your crew is wiped out and you are forced to join a hated enemy ask your self given the chance would you kill that enemyand risk all you had worked hard for including your life?