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| Laid to Rest.... | Started by: Krash on Jan 17, '08 15:24 |
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First I'd like to point out i am an earner not some thug... those of you that like to bring up the "your a thug, rank up and do something" or the "you have nothing to lose" you can go away.... any who, I have seen way too many people come to the streets complaining that certain crewleaders are this and they are that.. blah blah whining fucking blah..... First of all they are crew leaders and until they die they can do whatever they damn well please, help who ever they want and say whatever they like. well that being said I would like to address another situation that i feel is way off base. All of you that cry and whine that just cause a crewleader has, oh lets say, 100 members, that they should be allowed to get away with other things that some smaller crews wouldn't... Have you all lost your fucking mind... a larger number head quaters isn't just for some one who raised enough money to buy one and thought it was time to expand, if you can't handle it drop some players, get a smaller hq. Buying a larger HQ should be something thought about for a bit, not just bought on a whim.. And another thing and this will be the only time i will use names, In Oliver McTavish's he has several if not atleast 15 people that i can see that have come from bloodlines that are known to be prominent and smart and decisive and all that other great jazz, there is absolutely no reason why anyone can come out here and use the excuse that there are simply too many people in his family to control... Make Sub Crews smaller, HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE!! thats the key... I spoke to a few higher ups in that family one time about something one of their members were doing that was well i'll say less then mafioso like and they laughed about it, they thought it was funny... Are you shitting me?? It really erks me to say the least when people come out here and use excuses that just don't hold water.. Now Ollie, you know me, you knew my father hell you damn near know my whole bloodline so you know i don't mean this offensively, but if a 100 man HQ is really getting to ya drop to the next size... There is nothing wrong with a little change if it will help the headache for you and help stabilize the current situation everyone seems to blame you for... |
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| Regardless of whether you meant it offensively or not, this issue/idea/whatever could have just as easily been presented to Mr. McTavish via his mailbox, rather than in a way which could easily be constrused as an effort to upstage him in a public place. | |
| Reply by: Enigma at Jan 17, '08 15:30 | |
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| He would have to visit public places in order to be upstaged in one of them. | |
| Reply by: Giuseppe at Jan 17, '08 15:31 | |
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| well i thought i would kill two birds with one stone.. addressing this first topic and then if Oliver replies, there, you have street presence, which is what most of you want right? | |
| Reply by: Krash at Jan 17, '08 15:32 | |
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Please, Crash, as enigma says, this really is unnecessary. Send him a mail. What are you trying to do with this thread? I can hear by your language that you will never, and never I say, change your mind. What do you gain by confronting him in public? It doesn't sound like you're very open to those of different opinion than yours. Actually, i started to read your thread with interest, until you got too offensive, and started to act.. Well childish. Are you jealous or somthing? - Moje ps. Don't use my rank as an argument, couse' what I said has nothing to do with knowledge of the game, its's just common sence. |
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| Reply by: Moje at Jan 18, '08 07:50 | |
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He makes a good point though, and I'd be interested to see Mr McTavish's reply. Krash approached in a perfectly fine manner, and I believe he has raised a good subject, on the demands of crew size. He complimented the Crew Leaders in effect, by saying that Mr McTavish has a large crew, and that is hard to manage in itself, but we see Oliver managing it anyway! But, as Krash rightly says, if a CL has the nerve to complain that he or she has so many members that they: 1) Cannot find time to have a street presence 2) Use it as an excuse to counter an criticisms ... then maybe they shouldn't try managing such large crews. The Crew Leader in question should downsize! Not struggle on in an uphill battle attempting to run a family that is too big for themselves. Of course, organisation is key, having a good selection of Subcrew Leaders takes most of the pressure off the CL! If that is not in place, then of course the Crew Leader will struggle!! |
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| Reply by: SalvatoreMarino at Jan 18, '08 08:52 | |
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He complimented the Crew Leaders in effect, by saying that Mr McTavish has a large crew, and that is hard to manage in itself, but we see Oliver managing it anyway! When I read this, that's not how I see it. I may be wrong, but too me it seems like direct criticism against Oliver. If I am right, I think he should speak to Oliver, not the public. But, as Krash rightly says, if a CL has the nerve to complain that he or she has so many members that they: Please tell me, has Oliver EVER complained about his crew having to many members? I don't think so. I've read posts where other people than Oliver explains their thoughts about it being a hard job, but not Oliver himself. - Moje |
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| Reply by: Moje at Jan 18, '08 08:59 | |
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Doesnt it look like Oliver is down grading as we speak? Seems like it to me... I could be wrong tho.. Ignore me. It makes sense. |
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| Reply by: Teruzzo at Jan 18, '08 09:37 | |
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I wouldn't want you to misquote me good sir, I never said that Oliver had complained in my addition to Krash's speech. I addressed the topic of large crews and the Crew Leader's ability to manage one. Not Oliver in any way, I apologise if that's what implication you could draw from it. Also, I'm merely stating my implication from it. Most speeches are different in the eyes of different people. That is a fact of life. I took it as a compliment to how difficult it is to run a large crew, and therefore it is a compliment to Mr McTavish, Miss Parks and Moretay. Krash also begins with a defence of the Crew Leaders from criticism in general, which I agree with.
I completely agree, far too many people seem to criticise the Crew Leaders, and that shouldn't be happening because whichever way you look at it, they can do what they please until they die! Salvatore nods in agreement with Teruzzo's statement. It would seem that way, but that may not continue. It is only because of the recent auth of Molotov from Mr McTavish's family. |
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| Reply by: SalvatoreMarino at Jan 18, '08 09:43 | |
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Salvatore, I'm sorry that I misunderstood you, but to me, it really seemed like it. Yes, we do have different ways of understanding this speach, and that is great! How else would it be possible for anyone to get further understandings? Not sure that's how to put it, but you get my point. I have seen way too many people come to the streets complaining that certain crewleaders are this and they are that.. blah blah whining fucking blah..... I completely agree, far too many people seem to criticise the Crew Leaders, and that shouldn't be happening because whichever way you look at it, they can do what they please until they die! This is the reason I did react with anger. I also agree with this, and when this seemed to me, like another, "He's no good" poster, it made me kind of mad. I think we share the same point of view, but we look at the speach from different angels. - Moje |
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| Reply by: Moje at Jan 18, '08 10:01 | |
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