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| Carpe diem | Started by: DarGabrielson on May 24, '18 20:12 |
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After spending better part of the day ensuring officials in Seattle were up-to-date with the changes in the city, Dar had one of the more promising associates drive him to the speak-easy near the docks. At this hour of the day the rough sailor types came to spend their days wages and mixed with the up-and-coming from downtown, who let their civilised masks fall off by evading prohibition. Expecting to find an engaged, high-spirited bunch as usual, it came as a surprise to Dar that any chatter subdued as soon as he stepped in. Heads turned towards him, and lifted glasses were slowly settled on tables. |
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Lucifer walked into the bar silently, and made his way to the bar. He asked the tender for a cup, then filled it with absinthe from a small flask. Lucifer would listen to the man, as he spoke of things such as open engagement and civic duty. He stood for a moment speaking loud and clear.
"Discussion is important. Taking control of your destiny, and not simply being a pawn is important."
He paused momentarily, taking a large gulp from his glass.
"However, Many of us just lost our parents, grandparents, siblings, and other relatives. We just lost our businesses, our homes, our fortunes. While the time for dialog is absolutely coming, and for some is already happening in the quite circles of their crews, many of us are using this time to gather our thoughts, and to regain what we just lost. A foundation is needed, I completely agree, however a foundation on unstable ground is worthless."
Lucifer retreated to the back wall, and observed the gathering crowd. |
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| Reply by: Lucifer_Barsotti at May 24, '18 22:55 | |
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BlueBelle had been listening with a great interest. There were things that she was thinking as she continued to listen more. I think we look to leadership more because leadership has the ability to shoot those that speak openly. I find that in many times there were not a lot of times that speaking openly was a good thing. In fact many people had been shunned or quieted with threats given to them. Now you want us to open up further? Perhaps you need to show that it is once again okay. Or perhaps time is needed for people to feel comfortable with their voices once again. We could be opinionated but can we really challenge leadership? Can we challenge who they auth? Can we challenge whether or not they are mute or openly chatty? Where does the line go that we are no longer able to challenge those above us? These are all things I would like to know before I go around trying to challenge anyone. I do want to see life sparked. Discussions and the like have always been a favourite of mine but to see them people need to know where the line is drawn. And the line is drawn by the leadership, not the people. BlueBelle paused. Realizing she had said everything that came to mind she stepped back and allowed others to speak their minds on the subject as well. |
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| Reply by: BlueBelle at May 26, '18 11:34 | |
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Jamal was walking on the streets still going to a destination even he didn't know yet but as he was en route to that unknown place he stumbled on another street in which there was another in depth discussion going on. He even spotted the woman who was just on the other street starting her own conversation over here. He decided to listen in and contemplate on his own thoughts on what the man who was starting this conversation said before he voiced his own thoughts. This time while he was thinking though he was paying attention to the responses coming in. He actually found himself nodding in agreement with a lot of what they were saying. He looked around and made sure nobody else was gonna step forward to contribute before he did so himself. "Man these streets are alive with some conversations these are good!" He exclaimed with excitement. "Honestly I gotta agree with the lady who spoke before me, and the man before that as well. One, it is a time in which damn near everybody just lost their family and their friends, their businesses and a lot of other things that are important to them. At the same time I look around and I see this place filled with the sons and daughters and family and friends of those same people who just passed and they're eagerly trying to fill their recently deceased's shoes as quickly as possible. So with people jockeying for positions and power and what not and trying to find or pick back up the connections their predecessors had they might not be able to fully focus on speaking out on these street corners so much or that may not be the highest priority for them. I don't know that's just my opinion." Jamal said. "For the little people though or the ones who don't hold rank or anythin' like that I have to agree with the previous statement made where they may be unsure due to the fact that bodies have been dropped for expressin' their opinion in the past. I mean I know nobody really wants to die, especially for sharin' their opinion or havin' a different one than some of the other power players around. So maybe some assurances or somethin' that these streets are a free place where people can RESPECTFULLY give their opinions or ask hard questions or take hard stances on things and not have to look over their shoulder because their opinion might have offended somebody with the means to do them harm and get away with it then that might go a long way to bringin' more people out to these corners to voice their opinions." Jamal took a contemplative look for a minute like he was thinking about something else. Before shrugging and nodding like he was satisfied with what he said. With that he stepped back into the crowd and waited to see if anybody else had something to say or add. |
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| Reply by: Jamal_Thompson at May 26, '18 14:38 | |
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Fair points, Lucifer. I agree that it's fair to have a reserved approached at time. Whatever a person needs is okay. Keep in mind though that by the time a direction is already set upon, it might be more difficult to alter it. Now change is always an option, but the sooner the desired outcome is clear, the easier it will be to adapt in that direction. |
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| Reply by: DarGabrielson at May 26, '18 14:57 | |
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Thank you DarGabrielson for getting back to me. I am sure that your reply should make people feel more comfortable with voicing their opinions at least with you. I believe that is the start to being able to come to the streets is knowing that there is someone whom you can be sure that if you are speaking to them that they not only wish to take the time to understand and listen but that they are not sitting there thinking that they might have to kill you if you are crossing the line. I still think there will be times that the line may be hard to see but as you said respect is the key when approaching anything. However, if you are a more blunt person people tend to view you as disrespectful when you don't sugar coat your points. How would you suggest managing that? |
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| Reply by: BlueBelle at May 27, '18 11:35 | |
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That is fair question, BlueBelle. Keep in mind that this is not maths we are doing here. There is no exact solution to the problem. |
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| Reply by: DarGabrielson at May 27, '18 19:21 | |
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A bottle of Scotch in his right hand balancing his weight with the other, N0b0dy tries to get home from a whole-night-bender. Comming across a large score, he thought he deserved some time on the other side of the bar for a change. With a heavy head and wobbly feet, he makes his way slowly toward the coffee place around the corner when he sees some friendly faces in the distance. Arriving shortly after, he listens to the discussion at hand. The topic at hand wasn't so much about people being right or wrong as it was about trust, N0b0dy thought. Taking a gulp from the bottle, he looked at BlueBelle. I think that is a very spot-on question to ask. It's at the center of why I think a lot of people stay silent. I have to agree with DarGabrielson here. We are all different in the way we voice our opinions so it's hard to pinpoint a specific way of approach and claim that is THE way to do things. N0b0dy scratches his head while bringing the bottle to his lips once more. He feels it's a difficult hurdle to tackle, but a worthy one for sure. |
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| Reply by: N0b0dy at May 27, '18 22:33 | |
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I think it's probably a fair assessment that for a good while now, this world has been run by various iterations of cliques and groups. I don't think it's a bad thing or a good thing, it's just the thing. The promotion of friends and fellow "group members" for all manner of reasons not reconciled to that displayed on a day to day basis either here on the streets or any other avenue has completely devalued the skill to worthless. Can't speak? That's fine - there's no speech given in the streets to justify a take down that needs to be defended anyway. Can't communicate? That's fine - your relationships have already been established with all the other cities anyway. Can't run a family? That's fine - your loyalty isn't to your family anyway it's to your friends in the coffee shops. People will speak more when the value of doing so is rewarded Dar and that's on the leaders to show that's the case. Even looking around now I see some questionable new crew leaders - post war or not are we really that desperate already? Essentially just falling back into the new normal? I don't know but I've seen nothing that would suggest otherwise so far. |
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| Reply by: Wispa at May 28, '18 22:13 | |
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Those are some sharp observations right there, Wispa. Thank you for that. Organised groups have always played a big factor in how an era shapes. And through what seems as buddy-authing and protection the values we deem important can seem to become nothing but hollow shells for the meaning they once held. Of course we can't judge a full group over the efforts, or lack thereof of a few of their members. Regardless of favouring them or not, I've never seen a group were there weren't very skilled or deserving people within it. A group holds a certain responsibility though and I guess it's hard to follow up on that, especially once there is hardly anymore room to grow on a personal level. |
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| Reply by: DarGabrielson at May 29, '18 19:00 | |
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Adding my own two cents, each leader is still ultimately a representation of the greater "community" of organized crime. When you approach discussions with an us versus them mentality when comparing leaders to members, it skews the dialogue to something more adversarial than it needs to be. Organized crime is still an organization; to make it work, you need stable relationships and a concerted effort in making sure that people are on the same page. It is not entirely unsurprising, then, that the world becomes run by groups. Searching through the history books, someone would be hard pressed to find a person who was able to go it alone in running the world without help along the way. This isn't a positive or negative assessment - as Wispa mentioned, that's just "the thing".
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| Reply by: Spaceman at May 29, '18 20:44 | |
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