To: TulipDubois
From: Criseria
Sent: Jun 06, '18 17:33
Subject:

I have already said I will be doing better in the future, I done emailed squishy for any spam ones to be removed and for guidance or for constructive criticism for future threads.  Therefore sorry for any of my messages that seemed to be an attack. Enjoy your day.

To: Criseria
From: TulipDubois
Sent: Jun 06, '18 17:27
Subject:

Right, it was an ATTACK on BlackPanther. Which is what I said. 

If you see what I did as an attack than you should also see that TM's OOC post about spammers as an attack

Where did I say TM was attacking you? This all came about because of TM's thread. I and several others of this community are tired of putting forth effort and people who were making spamming threads getting all the credit when they weren't doing hardly any work. 

Please tell me that's not EXACTLY what you are doing.

The Greasy Spoon

*Note: Everything in bold is the same copy and past. Everything is blue are the small original changes that some how make this not spam. 

Philly

Criseria had traveled to Philadelphia several times recently for business and noticed a need for a Quaint Diner that everyone can bring their friends and eat, and that will serve Paper Bag specials for those on the go. So she decided to open a diner in Old City District. 

She found a storefront and decides to go for her dream. Once she gets the keys to the place, the interior design starts to come together. She even made sure there was a cute little awning. with a patio. There is a bar top tables, booths, and a few tables that can be pulled together to make one large table for the larger gatherings. She wanted to make this place an iconic for the city. The walls have pictures in black and white of the most beautiful sites throughout the city. She named the place Criseria's Greasy Spoon. 

Detroit:

Criseria had traveled to Detroit several times recently for business and noticed a need for a Quaint Diner that everyone can bring their friends and eat, and that will serve Paper Bag specials for those on the go. 

She found a corner storefront and decides to go for her dream. Once she gets the keys to the place, the interior design starts to come together. There is a bar top tables, booths, and a few tables that can be pulled together to make one large table for the larger gatherings. She wanted to make this place an iconic for the city. The walls have pictures in black and white of the most beautiful sites throughout the city. She named the place Criseria's Greasy Spoon. 

LV:

Criseria had traveled to Las Vegas after opening her flagstaff store in Detroit, and found that Las Vegas also had a need for a Quaint Diner that everyone can bring their friends and eat, and that will serve Paper Bag specials for those on the go.

She found a  storefront and decides to go for her dream. Once she gets the keys to the place, the interior design starts to come together. There is a bar top tables, booths, and a few tables that can be pulled together to make one large table for the larger gatherings. There was a selectophone (Jukebox) that would play music. She wanted to make this place an iconic for the city. The walls have pictures in black and white of the most beautiful sites throughout the city. She named the place Criseria's Greasy Spoon.

LA:

 Criseria had traveled back home to Los Angeles and noticed a need for a Quaint Diner that everyone can bring their friends and eat, and that will serve Paper Bag specials for those on the go. 

She found a corner storefront and decides to go for her dream. Once she gets the keys to the place, the interior design starts to come together. There is a bar top tables, booths, and a few tables that can be pulled together to make one large table for the larger gatherings. She wanted to make this place an iconic for the city. The walls have pictures in black and white of the most beautiful sites throughout the city. She named the place Criseria's Greasy Spoon. 

 The menu is the same in each business.

Greasy Spoon Menu
Burgers
1. Classic beef burger -  with flame grilled bacon, topped with cheese.  0.25
2. BBQ Burger - Beef burger with crispy beer battered onion rings and hickory smoked BBQ sauce   0.25
3. Greasy Spoon Burger - Beef burger with double cheese, back, then drizzled with tomato sauce.  0.30
4. Fire eater burger - Beef burger with onion rings, chilli relish, and jalapenos.  0.30 
5. Chicken Burger - Grilled chicken marinated in lemon and then coupled with citrus mayonnaise   0.25
6. BBQ chicken Burger - Grilled chicken with signature seasoning then covered in Hickory smoked BBQ and topped with cheese.  0.25

Diner dogs 
1. Classic - Chargrilled hot dog with crspy bacon and shredded american cheese topped with mustard and tomato sauce  0.20
2. BBQ Dog - Chargrilled hot dog marinated in Hickory smoked BBQ and finished with bacon bits 0.20

Sides
1. Crispy fries with our signature seasoning   0.10
2. Loaded fries with cheese and bacon   0.10 
3. Beer Battered onion rings   0.10

Drinks
Sodeepop
Shakes - Chocolate, Vanilla, or Strawberry
Floats - Coke or Root Beer

The ending in each business is also the same minus putting in the different city name

Now that everything is done including the menu she was ready for the Grand Opening.  

 Tell me how this is putting in effort and not spam. You tell me how this is any different than those who were upsetting TM. You tell me how these are not all the same?

Me giving you straight facts is not an attack. 

I was using you as an example to clarify where my questions were coming from. My initial question was:

11:44 <TulipDubois[MR]> Is it within the rules or against the rules to copy and paste a business into each cities business forum?

11:44 <TulipDubois[MR]> word for word, the only change being the city

The replies were letting me know that I should at least change a few things around to make it less spammy, but it'd still be spammy. 

11:44 <Funshine[MR]> I would say change it up a. It atleast

11:44 <Funshine[MR]> Like integrate the climate or surroundings that are characteristic of that city

11:45 <Kris_Kringle[MR]> Yeah a little something to make readers say "ooh, that's different." or something. ;)

11:45 <Funshine[MR]> Or a possible additional service unique to that city

11:45 <TulipDubois[MR]> I would never do this

11:45 <TulipDubois[MR]> as I see it as spam

11:45  Kris_Kringle[MR] nods and points at Funshine

11:45 <TulipDubois[MR]> an easy grab for points/credits

11:45 <HankMoody[MR]> Right

11:45 <Kris_Kringle[MR]> I'd have to agree I think.

11:46 <TulipDubois[MR]> Is anyone in LA?

11:46 <Kris_Kringle[MR]> Sorry, no.

11:46 <Kris_Kringle[MR]> Well not I.

11:46 <Funshine[MR]> Yes TM had subs and soups in every city :P

11:46 <TulipDubois[MR]> Yeah, but that character is now dead

11:46 <TulipDubois[MR]> and I haven't noticed him do it as his new character

11:47 <Funshine[MR]> Subs was added on his new character I think

11:47 <TulipDubois[MR]> Criseria[MR] seems to have a dupe business

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11:47 <TulipDubois[MR]> Criseria's Creasy Spoon

I call it using you as an example because I did just that, used your business as an example. Jus tlike Funshine used TM's sub and soups as an example. You know how the rest of the CONVERSATION went as that's when you chimed in. We were having a conversation. I said things, you said things. If you want to see it as an attack, fine. But then that means that I see your replies to me as an attack. Each message you send to me is an attack.  

To: TulipDubois
From: Criseria
Sent: Jun 06, '18 17:09
Subject:

TMs post wasn't attack on what I had done. It was about Blackpanther's spam threads. You may ask him yourself. I helped him proof that thread he wrote I know what it was about because he was tired of putting forth effort and people who were making spamming threads getting all the credit when they weren't doing hardly any work. 

Yes you were attacking me, to be your example.... To be what you wanted it to be. If I have 2 greasy spoon threads exactly alike I agree then one should be taken down. But the rest are each different. I never meant to post them all the same. I will be talking to izzy and request it myself. That if there are 2 the same that one be taken down.  And yes me being new to the rp does have something to do with this, their is a learning curve to everything in this game including this. You need to remember that because of course the admins understand that otherwise all the new players would not stick around. And I try to always be nice and helpful and do what i can for others, and I hope others will do the same for me, so when they see me doing something wrong I would appreciate being let know in a constructive way so I can fix it in the future and of course I will. 

To: Criseria
From: TulipDubois
Sent: Jun 06, '18 16:58
Subject:

I am not attacking you. Yes, I called you out. I made an example of you. If you see what I did as an attack than you should also see that your copy and paste bullshit is an attack on all posters who put both TIME and ENERGY into their ORIGINAL threads. If you see what I did as an attack than you should also see that TM's OOC post about spammers as an attack. If you take all of this personal you will never learn from it. 

I am reporting every greasy spoon for removal because you are still getting points and perks from it. 

It doesn't matter how long you've played this game or how long you've been role playing. Common sense is a thing. If you want to use the whole "I wrote those before I was a crewleader but I know better now" as a thing then have Izzy remove the Greasy spoon from all cities except one. And for your future threads, put TIME and ENERGY into them. Make them worth something. Fill them with quality. Don't reuse the same thing over and over again. Be original! As a crew leader you are setting an example to everyone. Be the best you can be. 

To: TulipDubois
From: Criseria
Sent: Jun 06, '18 16:38
Subject:

I have no problem letting it known that I am new to this b/c my previous characters names are in the system and you can see that i didn't post on them. And when I came back i signed up with the wrong email so izzy knows the character names i had before so he is aware of them. It wouldn't be hard for him to see and know for sure that I had never posted.  And of course I welcome any constructive critizism anytime because as I said I am new to this. Though to be outright attacked is a bit harsh when you are new to the rp thing. Especially when you thought you were doing the right thing. 

To: Criseria
From: TulipDubois
Sent: Jun 06, '18 16:33
Subject:

Sounds like you need to ditch TM. If you ever need any real help don't hesitate to contact me. 

To: TulipDubois
From: Criseria
Sent: Jun 06, '18 16:32
Subject:

You do realize when I first was putting these up I was not a crewleader and never dreamed I would be a crewleader. I was a nobody. I only had the person I admired a my crewleader TM to help guide me in things.  I do apologize you see what I have done as wrong.  And I have been working on doing other threads differently. I am new to the RP thing. This is my first character doing this on it. I had only came back after 5 years of being gone and when I played before I never ever posted a single thing. So trust me I am still learning. I am learning alot of things.