Here's a suggestion that would give the game a great deal of realism.  Get rid of the 60 second list or modify it in some way so that you can only see who is in your family and currently on-line.  Or better yet, allow your perception stat to detect a percentage of the amount of people on-line that are also in the same city as you.  

If this were to be implemented people with stealth would be rewarded as the trait is in real life for this kind of business.  In the real world its not so easy to figure out who killed someone in your family across town and I don't think it should be here either.  True, power would be harder to hold, but it would make accomplishing this task even more of an achievement.  

People would have to go to their locals list to figure out who shot who and if you can't see them, good luck figuring out who the shooter was (Unless they have a unique name).

I can't see the way this is feasible, think of how many times users use the 60 second list. Wars, to talk to there friends from opposing cities/crews. Recruitment... the game is built around the 60 second list.

Sorry dude, no way this can work.

Very true.  Maybe we could modify the game so that only people in each others contact lists would show up along with family members and those under 48 hrs old so as not to infringe upon non-war related activities the list is used for.

I just think that stealth in this game needs to be given more power.  It's somewhat unreasonable to believe that a mobster would be able to detect every other active mobster in the United States that is active via ESP.

As Marcus intimated, this is a role playing game, you need the 60 second list t see who you are playing with. Its like playing Dungeons and Dragons, you can see who the other players around the table are, you just might not know where their character is.

I don't believe the 60 second list should be viewed as some kind of ESP or omniscience. After all, if I kill you in Detrot, and I'm not showing in the Detroit locals, and no one in your family got the WS, try proving I am in Detroit wacking people just cos I'm on the 60 second list.

The only change Id like to see to the 60 second list is highlighting all the members of your home city when you're godfather.

Before someone says use contacts, I'm not interested in adding 70 people to my contact list.

It would be a nice addition to see who is online from your home city.

Typical, he's been GF for 20 seconds and he's off making demands :p Good thing I love you pal :D

Rag - That would totally fuck up my eyes.

Then again, I'm not a Godfather and never will be.

The 60 second list is needed to see who is online but I think could we implement if you die you don't show up red on the sixty seconds list? This way it requires whoever receives the ws to hand it in immediately instead of waiting for a mass mail :\

Maybe a stealth toggle could be implemented so that you can choose when to and when not to show up on the 60 seconds list. When stealth is turned on, only people with a high enough perception stat can see you on the 60 second list.

then everyone will use the stealth mode and we are back to your original idea

Unless you also added a constaint, so that when your in stealth mode, you can't commit felonies, JB and petties etc

Suppose if you added that constaint, but how would pping work? and if you went on there profile would it show that they are online?