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| A Question of Loyalty | Started by: Falcao on Dec 15, '10 20:59 |
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During a casual stroll from the nearby coffee shop, Falcao nears the street podium where citizens are often heard making speeches. Every now and then, he would stop and listen, then continue his stroll while considering the points made by the speaker. Today, Falcao thought that he would be the one to speak; as there was a topic which had cost him many moments of wonder and puzzlement. This seemed like just as good a time as any to challenge his peers with the self-same thought. |
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The good Lord populated this earth with a great host of people and for as many similarities shared there are an equal score of differences. Some things things tick people differently, but I think I have some examples which are universal in terms of dissent. Let's take someone that is a relative newcomer - in terms of generation. First or second generation gangster mind you. If they are putting in alot of hard work and aren't visually reaping some gratitude from their superior and opporunity passes them up for some lazy veteran.
Or an older gangster in terms of generation, expecting handouts and special treatment in return for little or no work.
The rule of thumb to avoid dissent is consistency. So, whether or not your dealing with a newcomer or the son,daughter, nephew, niece or cousin thirty two times removed of a successful gangster - you treat them all the same and expect the same. Punish and reward with the same standard. |
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| Reply by: Sal_Giaquinto at Dec 15, '10 21:13 | |
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Ezekiel ponders the question laid before the assembled crowd, of which he was a minor part. Stroking his fingers through his beard, he walked closer to Don Falcao and began speaking carefully. Well, Don Falcao, the first thing that comes to mind would be if the young associate's leader shows weakness. Weakness can take many forms mind you...from allowing those under his protection to be killed with no repercussions, long periods of not being active or developing the Family, or overall incompetence in the more delicate matters that fall under the purview of a Leader. Now, moving along...the second thing that comes to my mind would be personal issues that develop during the business association between a cugine and his or her Boss. A Boss that doesn't look after the financial interests of those under him or her could eventually result in such chaos, as the feeling of neglect or coldness can be a insidious one. Frugality can be admired but there is a point at which is can go too far. Smiling, he waves away any objection to his second statement. I'm well aware that being softhearted is not quite how things are done around here. However, looking after your own with a strong but caring hand can reap more rewards that is often realized. Ezekiel starts pacing, still thoughtfully murmuring to himself. After a few moments, he turned again to Don Falcao with a small smile One mustn't forget that sexual tensions, sometimes called a "love triangle" can be a cause for distress. It may not be the most often reason, but there have been times in the past that chaos has resulted from the smile of a pretty lady or the attention of a powerful male. Something to always consider in the aftermath of violence. The last possible reason that occurs to me would be if a young one feels he, or her, is being held back. There have been times before a fully proven mobster has been held back for the actions of those that came before him or her. While due diligence in treating with such people is important, sometimes you just have to trust. While giving too much can be a sign of weakness, giving too little can be damaging to the pysch of a young mind. Always remember, it's all about balance. Yes... Ezekiel bows to the young Don and turns toward a nearby alley, wrapping his cloak tight against himself and striding away. The clack of his cane upon rough stone can be heard for some time, till even that is gone. |
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| Reply by: Ezekiel at Dec 15, '10 21:19 | |
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Every single decision that someone in the upper structure has a consequence on the members of the entire family. Sometimes that consequence is immediate, sometimes its weeks down the road. The point is, the entire family is a house of cards. One small move often sets off a chain reaction that causes the whole works to collapse. I develop loyalty towards my upper structure by the seen and unseen actions that take place. The thank yous, the pats on the backs, the stepping up for someone, leading by example, friendliness, and so on - these are all seen actions. |
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| Reply by: TheWildCard at Dec 15, '10 22:17 | |
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GTL hears a conversation about loyalty and decides to wager his opinion. As the son of a recently deceased mafioso whose family was killed I came to these streets knowing I would have to find a new family to survive, and hopefully one that would also embrace me and take care of me. As I have recently gone through the process of having people approach me to see if I would like them to be my sponsor, I feel I can weigh in on this debate with my opinion on to what leaders should present to possible candidates. Family heads got to that position for a reason. They worked hard, they made the right connections, and they displayed themselves capable of running a family. By me asking or accepting their offer into there family, I have promised my loyalty to them. I do not feel it is there place to personally reach out to me to inspire my loyalty. They worked hard for their position and work hard everyday and since I did sign my life to them, I feel that there protection alone should be enough to inspire loyalty. GTL scratches his head for a bit So I guess what Im saying is that leaders should not have to inspire loyalty. By entering the family you declaring your loyalty to them, and really the only thing that should break this is death. |
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| Reply by: GymTanLaundry at Dec 16, '10 00:57 | |
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Men are sensitive, blinded by greed, and evil. |
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| Reply by: Se7venControl at Dec 16, '10 05:00 | |
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* takes some usefull note, and ponder the philosophical meaning of the essence that brings upon the humanity this noble sens and questionning that is loyalty* 1. One may believe that words are easy, action is harder, "i give you my word Ill be loyal", then bad things happen and you get betrayed. 2. One may believe that you must lead by example, " Showing what you preach and doing it, is leading the path you want your followers to take." 3. One may think that if you are a TRUE Mafiosi, you ll respect the Codes hereby tied to this way of life, " Walk the talk, dont just talk." 4. One may think that if you dont respect the rule one time or two it doesnt really matter, " truth be told that If you can fail yourself once you will again... AS trust been killed" 5. One may doubt from time to times the decision and action of their leaders, " They are human they make mistakes but are they open to seek for knowledge and wisdom?" 6. One may doubt the core value of everything that surround them, " that is just our nature to doubt about things and hierarchy and the nature of things..."
Partial conclusion: No matter what you do, what you say...You ought to keep YOur word to yourself and towards others. (family ,friends etc) If you dont respect it, then you aint respecting yourself, if One do not even respect himself, then why would he respect others?
Of all the others points being made that i wont repeat, at the end..at the bottom end... The answer of that question begins at the core/root Value you can sens in One individu. If he was grown to be a "Rat"(snitch), a "snake"(backstabber) or a "monkey"(unloyal in business), a TRUE leader can see through any kind of illusion and bullsh*t, what type of individu he got in front of him. (...)
Now on the other hand, bad leaders exist as well, and if they dont inspire respect and loyalty then how could one like such could wish for anything else different?
Respect,
AL D. |
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| Reply by: Aldiplomat at Dec 16, '10 05:40 | |
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I don't think loyalty is something as quantifiable and measurable as it is generally an unspoken bond; you do me right and I'll do you right. This is a business, above all things, and the ultimate aim is individual success. We like to get what we want and where we want. You can't really say this and this will cause disent or this and that will breed loyalty because relationships aren't that easy. Sal hit the nail on the head when he talked about consistency - people are satisfied getting what they deserve for what they've given. The worst scenario is when they feel they've not been shown that gratification. I guess it's not easy keeping everyone pleased - my bloodline has never been in a leadership position so I couldn't tell you - but I'd wager it's the sign of a good boss when he's managed to keep it under control. |
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| Reply by: bigfatcooper at Dec 16, '10 09:45 | |
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Acts of kindness inspires real loyalty. Your family takes you in, they protect you, they give you the funding to begin stepping up the earnings, every single day that passes they're the only reason you're alive. When this happens, people will go above and beyond in the representation of their family. That loyalty will remain beyond death. Fear can also inspire loyalty. I don't believe this to be true loyalty. Those who are loyal out of fear would gladly fuck you over as soon as they had someone bigger to hide behind. As soon as you die, they're not going to care about the wellbeing of your friends and associates. I believe loyalty out of kindness is betrayed when people no longer think rationally. Something tends to happen which pushes them over the edge. That can be someone they see in power who just don't fit with their ideals, it can be something as simple as the stress eventually tipping them. Loyalty out of fear is betrayed as there was no real loyalty there to begin with. |
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| Reply by: TheD at Dec 16, '10 17:02 | |
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Tushy, I was only wondering, are you a victim of Tourettes Syndrome? |
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| Reply by: Toke-N-Choke at Dec 17, '10 00:20 | |
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