Good day all... i have a suggestion that has been in my mind for quite sometime now. This may have been talked about before... but here it is anyways.

Ok, in the real mafia world, a Don is a Boss. He owns a family and everyone that works for him are lower in ranking that he is. So the highest rank of his member would hold the rank of Consigliere. In order to make this right in this game, every city would have to follow this rule. If a consigliere is to become a Don, he must absolutely get auth'd to have his own family. If he does'nt get auth'd, he remains consigliere. But in order for this to be done right... every city must be runned by this rule. It would make the game interesting... well, it is interesting as it is now but... it would make it a little different. The would be a Godfather in every city and the Family leaders would have the rank of Don. One should be Don to have his own family. That would make sense in my book. So... what about it?

Uh... let me correct myself here. A Consigliere in real mafia is the Godfather RHM and the Don's are underboss's... of course i am not suggesting to chance the whole ranking system. For this last to be implemented would be a major change. However... i would like to see the first post of my idea implemented someday.

I thought of this idea as well however I put it out of my mind because there will be a  crap load of people with only a few crews. Seeing as though it takes longer to get authed.

Yet i still do like this idea and i also feel promotions should be given as needed not at a time marker. if i have a small crew why the hell do i need so many bosses and capos. If i had a crew i would break it down in tens. Like this

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CL (Don)

RHM (Consigliere)

LHM (Boss)

These are your top dogs

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SCL1 (Capo)

SCL2 (Capo)

SCL3 (Capo)

These guys are incharge of the

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SCM (Made Man)

SCM (Made Man)

SCM (Made Man)

These are the workers of the crew the guys who put in the hard work and sweat hoping  to one day make thier way up the chain of command.

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Associates (Wise Guy and Under)

These guys are trying for a spot in the crew, to be Made Men. This title is not handed out like candy alot of guys are trying to get in so you have to work hard. Also you have to had made your bones, if you dont know what that is then you don't deserve to be where you are!

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I know  this means that there will be alot of Man Men and under running around but hey that's the real mob is any way.

I like your set up...  Giovanni, yes it does have it's set backs. If the crew members are fewer, this would mean there would be more Crew Leaders. This would be a whole different game. Interesting.... for sure.

Erm...Correct me if I'm wrong, but a Consigliere was not anything close to being the RHM or Underboss. He was an advisor. I personally think the rank should me removed from the game ultimately, as the person who holds this rank isn't even a mobster.

You are 100% right about that Jin... consigliere is a advisor, not a mobster. There is also only one consigliere in a family organisation. If there is to be a consigliere, i would make him not carry a gun. He does'nt shoot and no one shoots at him... unless they get to the godfather. Because no other mobster would have reason to kill the consigliere. He is harmless, but that is in real life. This is a game, lets not forget. It is a very good game, no major change is needed... just minor adjusments for the pleasure of entertainment.

Actually you are both wrong. Consigliere is an advisor but nowhere is it stated that he isn't a mobseter. There are plenty of examples where two guys grew up, join the mob, one made it all the way to Don dragging his mate with him. True it has no formal recognised rank, and you didn't have to be a mobster for your Don to make you a consigliere, but that is irrelevant.

The issues with the ranking system is that people are scared. QTR only promoted based on a strict set of requirements, really strict. in fact I peomoted 2 people in 3 weeks, but most are afraid to do this, because of what the othewr crews are doing. Why should I hold my members back, and be wekaer when CL A over there has a crew of 20 dons and 30 consiglieres.

How a CL promotes isup to the CL and it should be left that way, because ultimately he has the final say.

Well... like i said before... if such an idea was to be implemented. ALL cities would have to do it, that way.... no other CL would hold so many Dons and Consiglieres in his Crew. Of course, i totally understand the situation and the way it is now. A Crew leaders has his own system of promoting and i totally respect that. This is just a suggestion and i undestand all the issues involved in implemening it.

I like Giovanni's set up. That totally makes sense but I doubt that a change such as this will every be implemented. Yes in some families they will probably have sub crews and stuff of that sort to make it like that but the full game change may never come. 

Also, Benton is correct about the consigliere matter. As for holding your members back by not pomoting them. Well there is nothing holding them back. They can still train their gun and earn money. Yeah, they can't do as good of organized crimes but that doesn't make you weaker. Yes it would be nice to have your family just full of Don's. But holding promotions from people until they ultimately deserve it is the way things need to be. I'm not saying this is how all families are but when you see CL A with like 10 Dons, some of those probably shouldn't be given that rank in the first place. But it makes you look more powerful so why not do it?

Yes a CL with 10 Dons does look powerful Leviathan... but we both know that it is only for the looks of it. Because probably half of them has very poor shooting skills and would die easily in war times even at that rank. Unless of course, that certain crew has 10 very good hitters... well, anything is possible. I always respected a Crew Leader that promoted only when the member deserved it and not for the look of it. I also agree that this change will never be implemented... unless the admins find the ultimate solution and does something similar. With that said, i enjoy this game the way it is... so a major change will only get me a little nervous. Unless it makes the game even more exciting.