You taking up sport killing????? It definitely reminds me of 303 all over again. 

And for all you simpletons, I am going to clarify, the sport killings remind me of 303. Pull your panties out our ass before you tell me to RIP! 

Sounds like someone swallowed the bitter berry. It's the game man, this shit happens, people kill each other, wars happen. Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes you're not.

Reminds me of pretty much every regime that has existed to be honest.

 Boydy, are you new, naïve, or think some are stupid? This has nothing to do with "war". It is exactly what I said, sport killing. Regimes have taken on this practice only in the last 4 plus years. And for the record, I was not around for this kill fest. All the bitter berries are for you to swallow. 

Lil WInston hasn't been around or is delusional if he thinks this is how it's done.

Then how is it supposed to be done?

We could eliminate cowards killing because they are afraid of gun

How about removing names from the lounge rogue/roguette notifications so paranoid fucks don't think people are building to rogue. Our gun information is our own and shouldn't be made public in this manner.

In before some fuckwad says "You don't have to shoot them." None of us HAVE to but we shouldn't be announced as doing so when we do.

I don't need a street thread for the explanation behind this takedown. It wasn't a war. It was a takedown brought on by cowardice. People in Philly have already said the cowards were afraid of a couple guns in Pasadena without just cause.  

Rogues are free, unlimited +1s. Most things have pros and cons, and as there are literally no restrictions to shooting rogues (not to mention they're generated like a hundred times a day) there has to be some sort of con to shooting rogues.

If you want to kill something anonymously, shoot RIAs and Durdens, spawn MIAs, or just stick to BGs. A completely free kill without a cooldown, and some small credit reward for your trouble is the pro, the con is having your name plastered all over irc for everyone to see.

Enjolras I think Enaento was arguing the case that the actual con to rogues / roguettes was being shot in the face "Before their gun gets too big" is the mantra of the purge regime currently in power. 

Although I am sure you were already aware of that...

If you want to kill something anonymously, shoot RIAs and Durdens, Spawn MIAs, or just stick to BGs. - 100% in agreement with you. I would like to add the caveat lie like fuck on your shot reports. If you are known as a fast builder & report this truthfully & your face doesn't fit you will be swimming around the +800 mark. Guarantee it.

If your face doesn't fit...is that something you can work on to improve or is it set in stone?

I would argue with the current people in power it is set in stone. They quite clearly love being in power...Which, in of itself is fine. The problem is when those in power love being in power but have absolutely no clue what to do with it. The game goes stale (ANOTHER CITY COMP FFS) Hence we are locked in the cycle of kill everything we think could be a risk to our power.

It will end eventually either by boredom setting in & the regime imploding (Hopefully soon) or via the users / credit purchases dropping & the admins getting involved.

Enjorlas knows exactly what I was saying and you are correct. This purge regime has used flimsly to no excuse to take down all cities as of late. They use other cities to help them knowing those cities are already next on their list. 

I disagree that there should be a risk of someone knowing who shot a rogue which is basically just a spawned npc several times a day. The risks should be the same as an MIA (failures). We should not have to not shoot rogues to stay off the radar especially when we are purged for building because one day we might be a threat. 

But that's the thing Enaento - there is no other risk with Rogue. If you're the first to click when it turns, then you kill it, regardless of city, time left on your attack timer or gun ability. There literally are NO other cons. Are you suggesting we should be able to pro Rogue and just have him sitting on the 60s list for 4 hours? Cos in my opinion, that's just daft.

I learned this a long time ago - you don't want people to know you're competent at shooting, don't shoot rogue. If you want to take the risk, then you can rack up your +1s pretty well with rogues. Risk vs reward - it's a pretty simple concept tbh.

But that's the thing Enjorlas, the risk is being used to purge people. The risk needs to be changed. 

I was in before someone said don't shoot rogue. 

Ok, if that's how you feel then lets discuss it. I'm always open to improving the way things work. How would you improve the way rogue works? Because I think we both know it can't be all positive, there must be some element of risk involved - however small.

I've already said individual names should be eliminated and the risk should be the same as an MIA or NPC as it is actully a spawned entity. Jail/gun and even a chance of a 1%. 

So a 1% WB death is preferable to being named on irc in your mind? And what's to stop people making the connection of someone being jailed just after a Rogue being killed, and "being targeted" for it? Admittedly that second point is a bit weak because the jail WB rate would be low, but you see what I'm saying? There will always be someone complaining about the system employed.

Personally, when I'm building a gun, I very rarely try to shoot rogue because of the risk involved, so I'd prefer it was done away with altogether, because it's of very little benefit to me, but that's not a reasonable suggestion so I accept it for what it is.

"You can please some of the people all of the time, and you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all the time."