Here it goes after thug the rest is normal but make it so you have to get to thug in order to join a family it would lessen IA's in Families which are prolly free kills anyways...

Civilian
Babbo"after 1 crime"
Hood"after 25 crimes"
Thug"after 100 crimes once you make it to tig rank you get your gun"
gangster"1 day"
Young Turk:"instead of goomba"2 days min time"
Goodfella"5 days min time"
Earner"10 days Min time"
Wiseguy"15 days min time"
Mademan"30 days min time"
Enforcer"50 days min time"
Capo"90 days Min time"
Boss"120 days min time"
Don"180 days min time and only if CL i mean come on 5 dons in one family...."

The min time could be changed...reguarding family
RHM could be changed to Underboss
LHM could be Consig

Thoughts?

~Tommy

Godfather"220 days min time"

I'm going to just say that I like it the way it is currently. I feel that those are ridiculous times for ranking.

Also, IAs can be at any rank to be honest. It depends on the person and sometimes even the IAs are just people that have stuff to do in real life and need time before they return.

Do you know what a goomba really means? maybe the time could be changed but its to easy to rank up now once you get into the pace
multi dons man thats just stupid maybe not to someone who doesnt know any of this but if your a big mafia fan then you do

I think that min time for each rank are ridiculous also if someone deserves to be Don he should get it no matter if he is crew leader or not

i also think things are fine as they are, make the game too long to get to the top is a chance you put more people off playing

ITS SUPPOSE TO BE EASY TO GET TO THE TOP?????? wtf since when is anything easy in life of even in this game you gotta work any people end up playing for like 6 years anyways...

ITS SUPPOSE TO BE EASY TO GET TO THE TOP?????? wtf since when is anything easy in life of even in this game you gotta work any people end up playing for like 6 years anyways...

Reply by: TommyLuciano at Jan 19, '11 00:49

Who said it should be easy to get to the top? Just because the min times are set to what they are, doesn't mean the crew leader has to promote them that day.

I too feel like the min times you set are too high. Godfather at 220 days?! That's about.. 7 months? Come on now.. I see where you are coming from with the realistic stand point of the ranks.. but things are fine the way they are. If CLs have an issue with it, it is within their power to not promote..as it should be.

I'm about to state a fact:

This game is far more of a long term game than it's ever been. People may rank more quickly than they did when min times were slightly higher, but the game is still played on a much longer term basis. The amount of bgs now held by the top accounts, affecting those top accounts takes months of gun training.

I genuinely think Tommy has a point here. The min times of ranks, as I see it, are completely out of kilter with the way the game is played now; but that's perhaps just a personal opinion.

However, I believe there are 2 reasons why this suggestion has real merits:

1) The BG/demotion argument. If min times were significantly higher, it would make people think twice about getting demoted if it'll take you, say, 3 months to get back to Don. I think this is a good thing.

2) It gives players different options. If you're gonna wack 3 times a day and it's gonna take you 3 months to get to Don, it's a possibility that you may well die before you reach the highest ranks. If this is the case, leaders will be forced to rely and appreciate different members, as different people will bring different benefits to a leader; rather than it being a select group.

I think tommy's suggestions for min times are too high. If they were lowered, I really like this the suggestion. However, the majority won't as there is a massive undeserved sense of entitlement.

as I posted in my suggestion thread http://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/132094

the only thing bothered me are the rank is actually a position.
Don = Head of Family
Consig = Advisor (lawyer/gangster) mostly Civilian Lawyer
Boss = Underboss, RHM of the Don
and so on and so forth , rank seems make sense to Wise Guy, after Wise GUy rank is a position. many Capos wondering out the street without his own crew. A family got a few Capos who runs a small crews.

Yea the ranking is a bit funny


But I guess I got out of hand with the min times but as stated above this is a long term game

1. Min times
Do you really think changing min times would make a big difference?
Right now min time for boss is 17 days while people reach that rank after 3 months, on average.

2. 5 dons in each family
At the time when this thread was posted, there were 50 dons and 25 families. 2 dons per family.
Now we have 38 dons and 31 families. 1.2 don per family.
Not even close to 5.

3. All these capos wandering without a crew
These capos run prostitution rings, rob banks and deal drugs. I don't think they do it all alone. They surely have dozens of thugs helping them run things. It's just that those thugs do not have their mafioso profiles, they're in the background.

This is an online multiplayer game. The most limited and sought after resource in an online multiplayer game is the player.
The game has to be rewarding for the players, otherwise they won't play it. The player who puts forth enough effort, should feel appreciated. There isn't enough players here for each capo to have 50 associates. The player, who plays long enough and works hard enough, should be able to reach high ranks and not be limited in this matter by the lack of players to roleplay his crew. He won't reach the highest ranks without a real crew anyway.

And after all, you can try looking at the rank from a different perspective. Not as a title but as a character level. And let the position in the family determine one's title - GF, CL, RHM, LHM.
A character ranked Don doesn't have to run his own family. But his rank indicates he is ready to do so when his time comes. This is the exact situation we have in real life. There are far more people eligible to be managers or leaders than positions to be taken. Otherwise there would be only one person running for president and there would be no elections. And no gang wars amongst mobsters when a boss dies or goes to prison.

Min times
"Do you really think changing min times would make a big difference?"
Yes I do think it would make a big diffrence if it took longer to rank up If it took more work and a longer min to rank up few people would ask to be demoted that would solve the BG problem as said before this is a long term game. Most of the people playing the game now are going to be playing ten years from now being the game is still up to play. Its not like the resets every 6 months it takes years

5 dons in each family
I meant to say it was possible and your simply going on a Average which has no point here and also I never said 5 dons in each family

"These capos run prostitution rings, rob banks and deal drugs. I don't think they do it all alone. They surely have dozens of thugs helping them run things. It's just that those thugs do not have their mafioso profiles, they're in the background."

I didnt know we all had a Schizophrenia disorder this is not a fact AT ALL it doesnt say "The TommyLuciano gang made 678$ Running a prostitution ring"


"There isn't enough players here for each capo to have 50 associates'

No one ever said that this is very pointless....And there are a limited number of capos in real life crews and I think that is what banston was refering to. And with a limit

"A character ranked Don doesn't have to run his own family. But his rank indicates he is ready to do so when his time comes'

Couldn't this work the same way with the boss rank I purposed being the higest rank you can recieve?

"This is the exact situation we have in real life. There are far more people eligible to be managers or leaders than positions to be taken. Otherwise there would be only one person running for president and there would be no elections. And no gang wars amongst mobsters when a boss dies or goes to prison."

I never said any random member take over I said the RHM there fore the RHM should have the restpect from fellow members to have earned the title

"These capos run prostitution rings, rob banks and deal drugs. I don't think they do it all alone. They surely have dozens of thugs helping them run things. It's just that those thugs do not have their mafioso profiles, they're in the background."

as my knowledge Capos don't do Organize Crime etc with some thugs, they only do it with the wise guys or made guy.
and my friend you need to learn the difference of Crews and Family, a Family can consist of 4-5 Capos handling 5-6 Wise guys/ Made . not just some invisible thugs.

"a Family can consist of 4-5 Capos handling 5-6 Wise guys/ Made . not just some invisible thugs"

Actually the can handle as many as they want

They"

Also in real life mafia family's a wiseguy is higher then made men

well I thought they were suppose to handling the Made / Wise Guy, then the wise guys handling their associate.

No the wise guys just work with them Meyer lansky worked with charles lucky Luciano directly and he was a don

Wiseguy is just general slang for someone in the mob.