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Lets beat a horse to death shall we | Started by: TomCollins on Mar 14, '11 11:34 |
Okay so over the past 24 hours the streets have had a little buzz about them reguarding a certain speach started by a wiseguy. BUt if you take away the undertones of the speach you see that he was commenting on the lack of activity in the streets. |
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Well as you said in your speech and i quote "The main use as we all know for the coffeeshops is for the hitters, they have their secure backrooms that allow them a measure of anonimity" now i know im only quoting some of your speech and i know you address the issue that the coffee shops are used for more than just hitters but id like to focus on the hitters. |
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Reply by: DurzoB at Mar 14, '11 11:53 | |
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Spotting DurzoB giving his 2 cents worth on this topic Stallion just knew he had to get in to
"I personally am not a fan of the coffee shops. But sometimes you have to use something you don't want to. Why? Because the coffeeshops are such a vast source of information. So in that regard I can see why some believe the coffee shops have led to the decline in the streets. If a war happens or some serious shit goes down a lot of the times I go to the streets to find answers and get none. People sometimes rather not inform others in the streets of whats happening. But then I visit the coffeeshops and I find all my answers. So either people generally think by not talking in the streets others won't find out whats going on and are ignorant of how word spreads through the coffee shops or they just accept the fact everyone already knows and don't bother with the streets."
"But another side to the argument is that the coffeeshops help the streets be active. If ever I want to bring a discussion in the streets it only ever happens because I was discussing it before hand in the coffeeshops with friend and eventually realised it was worthy of discussing in the streets. The coffeeshops help to spark discussions. So in that regard they do have relevance towards the streets. Also the coffeeshops help spread the useless gossip and keep the streets for more important topics and discussions. I would rather that then seeing the streets flooded with useless shit."
Spotting a hat on the ground Stallion finds two cents in it. Taking the two cent and putting the hat on he walks away whistling while flicking the coin in the air |
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Reply by: Stallion at Mar 14, '11 12:32 | |
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looks down at the hat on the ground and smiles, it's gonna be a long way to that 100 bucks he needs for new shoes |
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Reply by: TomCollins at Mar 14, '11 15:09 | |
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Personally, my blood has always had a severe distaste for the coffeeshops. Agreed... they are needed for certain things, but some of the conversations I see in there would be of much better use in our fair streets. The exchange of views and opinions is a lifeblood of our world and whether people would like to admit it are not, it is the truth. Without lively encounters in the streets, the new blood who do use the coffeeshops will turn into mindless drones. Yes, I believe that we do need to teach the new bloodlines we are seeing stack up on our shores, there is a generation here that I believe has never been taught the basics, they have had to learn it themselves. Am I the right person to do this... considering the recent furore over my speech yesterday, no. But I truly hope that someone or a group of people take up this mantle as I believe it is very much needed.
Sorry to keep harping on about the past but I feel this is very relevant...
(OOC: A lot of the people still here used to riducule players from a game called dark-future for being monotonous click-monkey's, now those same people are doing the exact same thing, seems rather hypocritical to me)
I was planning on making a very similar speech to this today, but from the flip-side of the coin. However after listening to you I believe the way you have done it is much better than I could have managed, kudos. |
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Reply by: FiveFingerDeathPunch at Mar 14, '11 16:45 | |
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Facts are facts.
Coffee Shops killed the streets years ago. Anyone who claims otherwise is a fool and a liar. There is no going back.
Real time discussions between leaders, that you would have used to see out here, are far easier to have and use to your own advantage. You can reprimand, order, command or belittle people with very little comeback or proof. There are many con artists who can change a conversation to look real. No-one believes the scripts anymore.Thats why people use the shops.
The Streets, unless the coffee shops burn to the floor, are forever dead. No amount of bonuses or cash will change that. It's too much like hard work. A faceless world where you can have real time conversations would always wipe this street out. It's sad to see but was predicted long long ago. |
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Reply by: bighead at Mar 14, '11 18:30 | |
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IrishCarBomb listens to the others speak, and when it quiets he tosses his cigar and begins to speak
I, too, agree that the coffeeshops did contribute SOME to the decline of action seen here on our fair streets- however, as stated in the original thought: much of what goes on in the coffeeshops is irrelevant to what happens here in our world. In the coffeeshops, I see mafiosi relaxing and taking a load off, sharing a drink and a smoke, talking about home, kids, jokes, trivia.
On one hand, the conversations there tend to be more personal.. but do we really want to bring those conversations to our streets? We'd have loads of activity, but we'd be shoveling through it in order to find things that pertain to our world- as opposed to our personal lives.
Some say that the coffeeshops only thrive because of the ability to speak quick and directly with one another, without waiting for a turn to speak, or the mail carrier to arrive. |
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Reply by: IrishCarBomb at Mar 14, '11 21:35 | |
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Dammit...
what about Tea Lounges...
Why does it always have to be COFFEE shops.
Perhaps if the streets offered more diversity in the hot drinks area, it might plant a seed that would grow in to a forrest of tea leaves!
Not to mention Hops, and ginger and the list goes on and on! |
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Reply by: BlackMoo at Mar 14, '11 21:38 | |
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My appoligies Mr. Collins i clearly missed the point, well my above post can be quoted when and if the topic of bringing coffee shop issues into the streets ever arises. Anyway after listening to your speech and the responses i feel i agree, the coffee shops have lead to a decline in the streets these past few months. These street corners that we know and love are fast being a lost art, my grandfather recounts in his logs being moved by epic shakespearean-esque speeches made by members of this thing of ours. One that stands out in his logs is one made by a long time family friend Snip, whos granddad was the Snip of Chicago fame who took on the titans of NY and DT and even though he lost he still won the respect of both sides. Maybe we will have to think of incentives to get these street corners packed again. |
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Reply by: DurzoB at Mar 14, '11 23:29 | |
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