Billy_Russo - son, what the fuck are you talking about?  What's this font nonsense?

There’s the asshole we’ve all seen and can’t stand.

Yes, focus on the font as opposed to everything else that you can’t justify so you ignore. At least you’ve been the same scumbag over all of your time here.

Can you actually answer a question? Why do you believe that someone who’s line has been in jail multiple times for multiple offenses including plagiarism and has said himself that he’s rigged his own competition should have any part in running a competitive writing community? That seems like the exact person that should have absolutely nothing to do with it. 

The thirst is real.

Billy_Russo - OK, you want to talk about ancestral crimes? 

Yes, a relative of mine did a short stint in jail.  He wrote a song about his late, great friend, VoxNeruda.  Vox was a hobo, so my relative wrote a piece that was a cover version of some other song. 

None of my ancestors have ever openly said that they have rigged a contest.  Not a single one.  My bloodline basically invented the concept of incentivised locum judges. 

And yeah, fine, you got me, Mr Big Shot, a distant relative of mine did a stretch in jail for fraud.  And he came out penniless, invented an entire new genre of Streets literature, and his sons, and one daughter, have become leaders.

And all you can do, you literary fucking pygmy is snipe, snipe, snipe.

Your memory must not be very good because you yourself admitted that you’ve rigged contests. It was while you were begging a relative of mine to run a contest that you would fund because no one trusted you to run one yourself. Of course you didn’t send the $10 million because that’s the person that you are. You dig yourself a hole and then can’t back track your way out of it fast enough.

And since you asked because as per usual, you have to hijack a thread instead of actually contributing to it, I don’t pay judges to be slimy like you. I put the contest on, I am the judge. Easy peasy. You’re so dead set on being part of the writing community, here’s your chance to prove that you’re more than a big mouth.

This seems like one of those conversations when you suddenly rush into each others arms and make mad, passionate love to one another.

the archtypal 'will they or won't they'

Well i'm certainly going to stay tuned folks!

That seems more like a fantasy of yours Foamy but to each their own I suppose. 

Truth be told, I would very much like to be done with the type of person Anton is but he feels the need to constantly show up at my door and say my name in the streets. I doubt he’d have much to say if he wasn’t screaming my name all over the place.

Well sort of, human porn is a kind of niche thing for squirrels so i'm not going to lie.

Well, whatever the issue (and I genuinely have no idea what it is) I hope you both find peace, love and happiness.....and acorns

I wish you both well

Foamy, the issue is that Billy_Russo often alludes to why he hates me but never sets it out in simple cause; effect terms.

He will, of course, say it was historic frauds, jailings etc, but I don't really know.  He seems to hate me and I've only ever been kind to him.  

It's sad, but I've sorta made me peace with it.  

I’ve told you repeatedly why I can’t stand you. If you’d like, I’ll run over the list again.

You constantly and consistently start trouble for no reason other than starting trouble. You’ve been asked to back off and yet refuse. You’re relatives have sexually harassed me. You treat anyone outside of your circle as less than. Has anyone had the amount of vitriol tossed in their direction around here as you have? There is a reason for it.

Just because you refuse to believe in that egomaniacal mind of yours that you aren’t a good person doesn’t make it any less true. You are a liar, a cheat, a scumbag who hasn’t gone away even after I’ve asked you to leave me alone umpteenth amount of times. Not even after CLs have asked you to back off.

You get off on bothering people for whatever reason. You crave attention. You’ve lied to me repeatedly over and over again and when you are caught in those lies, you double down. You’ve fucked your own writing competitions. Even after I told you no, you hounded me over and over again until I finally relented and ran a contest that you wanted and then you refused to pay the cash you promised that you would put up for it. You’ve been nothing but a nasty scumbag towards more people here than I can count. I’m still inundated with messages from people who can’t stand you or your line.

Is any of this clear enough for you or do I need to speak slower so that you can actually grasp the concept? 

OK, Billy_Russo, once and for all, I'm going to deal with your accusations.

As Druglord will confirm, you have frequently asked about me.  Enquired.  Sought information.  I get it, I'm an interesting man, but you have an unusual interest.

I do not seek to cause trouble, I seek to prevent trouble.  You are one of a number of alleged writers in this thing of ours who sees me, accurately, as the main competition.  Thus, you all seek to assassinate my character.  I recall the alleged "retirees" who, in a blaze of urine and tears, left this life.  Except they didn't.  They came back, as they always do, in bad disguises.  

I keep my own counsel.  I debate my debates and I send money to those I believe need it.  Billy, you are one of these people.

You are full to the brim of nasty names for me.  I have done nothing but compliment you.  You say I sexually harassed you?  THAT is attempting to create trouble, son.  Trouble for me.  Truth is I haven't harassed you, sexually or otherwise.  

I confided in you Billy, and you betrayed me.  And still, I give you chance after chance after chance.

Some of my contests ended badly.  Yes.  That is true.  But all in all, I have run many contests, giving out probably hundreds of millions in prizes.  And what did you do?  You insulted my writing and then attempted to con me out of $10M?  

NOT ON MY WATCH, BILLY!

Not one single CL has asked me to back off.  Not one. 

So be careful Billy, make sure you salute the rank and not the man.  I am a Made member of Chicago.  A crew leader.  I have never, ever insulted you.  You are a Made man, and I respect your rank.  To do otherwise would be to disrespect the sanctity of this thing of ours.

So I will ask you, now, to pay me the respect that I am due.  

Well, considering nothing you’ve said is true, feel free to go away now. 

Im not exactly sure what you’re talking about, I’ve never asked about you, inquired or anything because frankly, you aren’t interesting enough to ask about. As far as Druglord, I’ve had respectable interactions with him, none of which revolve around you at all.

I don’t have to assassinate your character, you do that every time you open your mouth. You aren’t competition because you aren’t good enough to be competition.

I find it amusing that you actually think you haven’t been harassing me. Everyone can see it clear as day when you for some unknown reason, continue to speak my name constantly in the streets for no reason what so ever. Why exactly do you feel the need to speak my name at all? Especially since I’ve asked you publicly and privately to stop. You did sexually harass me. You and I know that, the community knows that, the admins know that. 

<font color="#D7D7D7">Please tell me how you begging and hounding me to run a contest for you because no one trusts you to do it on your own and then when you don’t pay the prize that you yourself decided on is conning you? That’s just another way that you twist and bend actual facts to try and make yourself look better. News flash, it’s not working.</font>

So, you’re really going to call my CLs liars? You’ve been harassing me long enough that not just one CL has had to step in and say something. 

Sure, you’ve given hundreds of millions in prizes. Of course those hundreds of millions were scammed and you subsequently ended up in jail for a few months for it. 

You don’t deserve respect. My track record clearly shows that I respect those that earn it and deserve it. You’ve done neither. You demand respect yet I’ve never seen you give it to anyone.

Ive asked you to leave me alone on more occasions than I can count by now. And yet, here you are, begging for my attention every single day. It’s a sick obsession and you clearly don’t understand what no means no is. I’ve said it privately and publicly but I guess you still don’t get it. For whatever reason, it upsets you that I’ll never be “friends” with someone like you.

Get over yourself, you’re far less important around here than you think you are. You can literally be replaced by anyone who has cash and wants to be a crew leader. The only interesting thing about you is the amount of people that can’t stand you.

Im really not scared of your veiled threats. You’ve tried that before, it didn’t work then and it won’t work now. Do you really want to keep pushing this or are you ready to accept that some people, well actually in your case, a lot of people, don’t like you?

To clarify, Billy_Russo, you are saying that you do no respect a Made man, a captain, someone who has made their bones in The Loop, Chicago?

You are saying that? 

What I’m saying is that I don’t respect someone who has been harassing me for months. Respect is earned not given, all you’ve done is show how disrespectful you are to most around here. It had nothing to do with your rank or what city you are from. Best of luck finding anyone else I’ve been disrespectful towards. That’s probably a big part of the reason you have to buy your way into being a leader, you somehow think that means you automatically deserve respect. You’ve rarely shown anyone respect, why should we show it towards you?

Im not scared of your threats but feel free to keep trying, I guess. 

Billy, have you ever read Systematic Immolation of Thought?

And I have threatened you the exact same number of times that I have sexually harassed you: a big fat fucking ZERO.  Rien.  Duck's egg.

Got it, "Billy"?

Laugh shakes his head but can't help but chuckle. He walks over to Anton wrapping his arm over one of his shoulders.

Anton, it's clear this lad has some strange fantasies of you. I get it you are strapping lad that has made his bones and found himself being a big shot in The Loop. He has fantasized and idealized your ancestors since he keeps mentioning them. I mean the evidence has been overheard by the folks that pass by. My ancestors might have done with them in the past but they are dead and gone. I only know Anton for being Anton. He claims you sexually harrassed him but I'm sure the gods of our world would have stepped in this was the case. I'm not gonna tell you to stop continue chasing after this young man for his friendship. Instead, I will encourage you to press on until you achieve your goal.  Keep up the work!

Well, his accusations are worth a Laugh (but the subject matter is no laughing matter).  I like Billy_Russo (not in that way).  

He gives well meaning speeches and he's keen.

Indeed his accusation are worth a laugh but the subjects he's aren't this is true. I mean with such claims I would think the gods of our world would have already stepped in to the matter. This is obviously not the case so he lost his credit after overhearing unless he would like to shine light to this. I know you like @Blly_Russo, he's strapping lad from great city of Detroit.  Its just a shame that you are just trying to his friend and it seems he just keeps attacking you in every way