Illuminatiated had been listening in on the conversation from the sidelines, which is where he preferred to remain most of the time. Having noticed that Jono's cover had been blown, Illuminatiated tapped on the smelly man's shoulder and whispered,

"C'mon pal, they're on to us..."

This is a call to arms; this was your "be a martyr" play like I said, not that you were intended to be the martyr. If we are going to have any sort of discourse, you will have to listen. You aren't the martyr for this cause because you can't make it far enough to do so. This, like you have done before, is your attempt to get others to do the heavy lifting for you and, how did you put it? "Do something to free yourself from the dishonor" or perhaps "there is no such thing as a wasted shot, only a wasted opportunity for honor and glory." Ask Wolverine about that. 

Anyway, you seem to think like I'm avoiding some sort of question you're posing when I listened to SpikeS blather on for half an hour and I'm still not sure what it is I'm being accused of. Do you want me to tell that you aren't relevant? Ok, you aren't relevant, despite whatever sweet nothings you've been telling yourself. The only things you know are those that have been shared with you and as you can't even decide whether it is Curtis and I running things, (TesleR), Gash too or maybe Latom as well, even those appear to be non-existent. Do you want me to tell you that you don't know who is running things? Ok, you don't know who is running things because you aren't even aware who gets a say and who doesn't and think Duggee is a sheep. Do you want me to tell you that I shoot people I don't trust? Hey Spike, I shoot people I don't trust - I even advertise that fact on my person. If you want to give me some examples of people being led around by the nose by me or forced into doing things, please share them. Otherwise, if there aren't any more asinine questions, I'm sure FrankCastle is doing something stupid which you're causing me to miss. 

One should respect the rattlesnake above all other snakes, for he is the only snake that will tell you : I am a snake, beware of me, I will bite you.

I am sure you are also well aware that most people are not loyal to a person, but to their need of that person. Once most peoples needs have  changed so does their loyalty. 

Many people are loyal to their need of others, not to themselves or their principals.

Is this truly a loyal person?   Rhetorical question there we all know the answer.

 I ask you Spike should my bloodline not serve this current regime like it has past regimes, yours included ? With  the same level of loyalty regardless of the attention I have received, or the position I have been granted. 

Aside from one  family, in my bloodlines history, Every regime, Every Crew, those in  my bloodline have served has received the same level of loyalty from me.  Why because my loyalty and honor  are mine, I  own them, they  do not belong the city or crew or regime I serve.  They are mine and I will continue to act and behave according my honor and morals  and not someone else's. 

If this becomes my downfall or brings me death, which has  been the case with  some of my ancestors, so be it. At least I stayed true my ideology and beliefs. 

SpikeOfThePeople - serious question: 

The masses rise up...  And then.

Who do you want to see in power?

What would they do differently?

To ask 'who' when it comes to power is like asking 'why' when you have a rash

the salient question  is 'what' you want, and how that can be achieved.

here endeth the lesson

Nipples, this isn’t about making friends, but you should not be insulted. The optics of their rank is irrelevant; they are in rebuild mode after someone smashed them. But their power hasn’t exactly decreased either. Rank does not equate to influence. You are a farm animal by most people’s definition, so I’m surprised you’re so offended and offended for others by my use of analogy. It's clear you have not been paying attention enough to know about the purging it would seem or maybe just not been privy to the conversations, but I feel like you could get some more answers if you just asked around. I appreciate the effort in trying to jump on the bandwagon though.

Duggee Go me!

Ragnarok, as an eternal placeholder leader, with not much else to note historically, your opinion is so valuable to me. It’s like you are so in-the-know all-the-time, and you have seen the Inside the Animals. I totally am floored by your presence.

I assure you: the community doesn’t really think much of Anton at the moment, but he’s protected. And I don’t think the current leadership defines much about the much larger community, but thanks for the swing and a miss at my character rather than my points here, pal.

Grin-08 Hi again. I see you’re continuing with this martyr word. That jumble just doesn’t make sense exactly, I’m not a martyr, or am I? I am not trying to be a martyr or sacrifice anything. I do not care about becoming anything from this. However, your point about not being allowed to make it far enough to do so is pretty easily countered since that inherently could be a form of martyrdom? In my case though, I’m not missing anything. Logic is useful. Have you played chess recently? It’s important to stay sharp.

Are you going to hurt me? What did I do to you? I said no harm no foul? Do you like nonsense strings of sentences too?

Is this a call to arms? Do you like rhetorical questions?

I'd posit you're getting pretty desperate by Wolverine up because it’s a great example of someone doing something more satisfying and honorable over having their body tossed into the incinerator like a big eyed bushy eyebrowed puppy at the pound. Wolverine got shot in the face by someone that he was about to have purged under Hoth.

As for my ancestor’s involvement, he simply was friends with that person who shot Wolverine, and well, they gave some advice to the shooter on the timing & etc., and put on a silly suit to get more comedy out of the execution. It was pretty funny, and that person felt great after, like anyone who was destined for death anyway.

Any conclusions you may have regarding current heavy lifting would not be for my benefit. I would not benefit particularly. I’d likely be in the same position after. The community might thrive more though.

You’re avoiding an actual rebuttal. Instead, you continue try to attack my character. Since that’s your form of attack, it’s apparent I have struck a chord here, and I’m flattered. I don’t think Latom is running things. No one would suspect that. She’s a protégé along for the ride, always has been. Gash definitely has more of a say, but he is by no means brains. At the core though, there is a Trio calling the shots, and influencing the others. Even if Tes is being lazy these days, he was never the Brain like you, or the Colonel like Curtis. Speaking of Cohle, what about Clarkson? That question was totally ignored. It was really important. Gosh.

Duggee is a sheep? I thought I said I wasn’t calling people sheepies!

I know you shoot people you don’t trust. That’s fine. I already said no harm no foul on that, but you seem very upset and making this about you more than the problem I was really describing. Is that your eyebrow twitching? You can shoot whoever you want because you don’t trust them. That seems a bit fascist though to expect others to be okay with, what makes your opinion so holy? Why can you dictate this? Do you not have faith in others’ judgment? See, this, here, is a rhetorical question, but you’re welcome to try to respond.

Rubberlips, may I hope your conclusion to be premature.

Anton I’d like to see Jono obviously. The only one that can purge Jono is Tyler so he should be just fine. He’d have a hubcap collection agency, and lewd parties all the time at the Fort.

It would seem that Grin-08 has lost his words, which would, in normal circumstances, be very surprising, but not here. His silence is appreciated though.

I will jump up onto another pedestal to continue this conversation with the public just down the street, as it's quite obvious that the regime has tried to suffocate this one, out of their fear and insecurities. 

As for the dishonoured dead, I remind the People to try to be respectful, as going down a path of hatred, only leads to oppression. The oppressed may very well likely become the oppressor, but hopefully, those oppressed learned from the oppressors’ mistakes and misconduct, and do not ebb into cruelty… As they would just become the same as their past oppressors, perhaps crueler like an abused Animal.

It would seem my past words were heeded. People did in fact get inside the animals. People were Disloyal to leaders that did not deserve their Loyalty. I am glad to see that people realized that they were people and not cattle, albeit I do consider some people do be other types of animals, Goats, puppies, seagulls, etc. There is a whole other speech about this, but with much more levity than my recent ones.

This is a Victory for The People, and hopefully, the People continue to have influence on the shape of their world, and stand on two legs rather than on four

My campaign has been a fun one, and thank you all for the support. While I was not involved in the actual uprising, I like to think that I incited some to stand up for themselves, and primarily, at least, gave people some laughs. I remind you though, I did not do my speeches for myself. I will see no benefit. I did it for the People, and I did it against Grin-08, and the like.

May you find people to be Loyal to. May you find leaders to be Honest to. May you move forth in the farmhouse, with cornbread and gravy at your side. Lie down on a bed, rather than hay. Chew tobacco, and not the fields of grass. 

Also, should you see a man with big arms, give him a carrot from your garden. He will be grateful. A big appreciative smile will appear on his face when he sees its brilliant orange.