I would love for you to go home to your wives, husbands, mothers, fathers, daughters or sons and proudly explain to them the standards that you uphold.

They’d be like “why are you telling me this?”

There are people that play this game that don’t give it a second thought once they log off. They don’t want to lead a “community” or police game standards. They play with the assumption there is a governing body to tend to the game rules and standards, which this game has always had in place with today's events to serve as an example.

If an outsider looking in saw a concerning post written by a player, they would question why the game admins allowed it to remain unchecked. Not the userbase.  In this case the posts were promptly removed, and two players were jailed and one later suspended. 

I’ve always appreciated HelpDesk and game admins as they have all assisted me in the past. But I have no interest in being a “leader of the community” and despite cries to the contrary, most others don’t either. They’re mostly concerned about training a gun and not having their characters killed in an adversarial mafia game.

So Izzy you can go home and explain with a sense of pride the standards you uphold on your platform. It’s what’s expected any game owner/admin. If I had a complaint that I felt as though fell outside the in-game scope of things, I’d take it up with an admin as well and expect some sort of action to be taken, or an explanation as to why that wouldn’t be an admin’s responsibility to address. I’ll gladly step down as a slanted position if it means by holding it I’m held to a higher standard than a non-bold or non-slanted player. I for one don’t want that responsibility and if I’m granted more freedoms and less aggravation as a player that way, it seems like a more appealing option. Speaking solely for myself I’d have no hard feelings about doing that. 

Hoping this post doesn’t land me in trouble. I think a great deal of Izzy and appreciate having this game to play.
 

 But I have no interest in being a “leader of the community” and despite cries to the contrary, most others don’t either

Long time since I have posted here but after the recent events I feel a great need too. You do not speak for the entire community. Not a single soul here does. I am still fairly young and I feel personally my leader is a great dude. I think he is a great leader in this community,  certainly if he had no interest in it , him being the great player he is he would simply not do it.  I strongly advise speaking for others , it very much so makes you look stale. 

It is as simple as you not being upper structure If you feel the need to not bear the responsibility of carrying yourself in a decent manner. I dont think anyone is asking for players to shit out gold , however respect and kindness go a long way. 

In regards to the outsider looking in that was very far fetched.  This community is small and we do expect leaders to hold each other accountable.  This is how it has always been , if izzy needed to step in it is because the lack of self policing.  Had another leader killed anton I'm sure the matter would not have even hit main.  

RubberLips

Anton and his lineage was given a platform too harass other players. He was supported by many leaders and not just Chicago. They encouraged him by supporting his postings. These people are as much to blame as Anton himself. It's apparent that the original goal of the five man crew was just to set up KuKu as a leader. They all used this to their advantage by killing off players who disagreed with KuKu in anyway. Especially when it came to Billy Ruso. They all owe Billy an apology. 

I find it fucking appalling that a rape thread took place in these streets about another player. Thank you Squishy for stepping in. As I recall you replaced your Admin status with two other people. So what the hell Rubberlips is talking about is beyond me. They should be called looselips. 

Can you say if his ban is prolonged? I have had many issues with him and many others did too. He was not well-liked in this community by the majority of people. Not seeing him for a while would be music to my ears. 

 He was not well-liked in this community by the majority of people.

I for one love kuku and I have this uncanny ability to understand his funny wit.

Even if I hated him I would still say that you guys need to stop over blowing things just to try and extend the ban. Very pathetic. 

It still stinks when I see others pretend to be offended to try and bait out a greater punishment.

Stop wiping Grins ass LEGEND

How many times must someone's bloodline be DD'd before people realize they are a cancer? Anyone who supports someone who has been as toxic as kuku is likely a problem here as well. Enablers were a big part of the problem when it came to Kuku. When enablers encouraged Kuku all you did was fan the flames and embolden him to do even stupider things.

How many times must someone's bloodline be DD'd before people realize they are a cancer? Anyone who supports someone who has been as toxic as kuku is likely a problem here as well. Enablers were a big part of the problem when it came to Kuku. When enablers encouraged Kuku all you did was fan the flames and embolden him to do even stupider things.

Lexus See i need to point out that defender over the last 30 (ish) odd hours also went on his own killing spree. With no thought for anyone he killed. So is this an acceptable action? where is the differences to what you are saying? He will have killed people who had no idea, or are not involved in anything. where is your view point on this? or does that not suit the narrative you are trying to push?

My character let Kuku, an often maligned and targeted figure, be a completely loyal crewleader to my character's organisation. He did not do anything from a character perspective that my character felt the need to kill him for.

When his behaviour became outside the rules of the game, he was killed by the people who police those rules. It still seems quite cut and dried to me. 

Scousepole is seriously comparing Defenders' actions to the topic at hand? Defender is not the first to go on a killing spree. Yet you are all in when it comes to purging a player. 

You don't need to point out anything nimrodpole. You are making assumptions. It's making an ass out of you. Again.

Grin, you not seeing what he was doing when he was a crewleader as wrong is exactly why you shouldn't be leading. Time and again he went too far. Time and again you yucked it up with him and your pals. You are a disgrace to this place.

When enablers encouraged Kuku all you did was fan the flames and embolden him to do even stupider things.

The people who enabled Kuku are the ones who he "targeted". If you don't want to interact with someone, then don't. Coming out to the streets specifically to engage in a battle of wits, losing, then claiming you're a victim of harassment is, quite Frankly, embarrassing... almost as embarrassing as publicly pondering one's thinly veiled digs at a GFC, after throwing their muesli covered toys out the pram and demanding a lifetime ban for another's thinly veiled insinuation.

Grin, you not seeing what he was doing when he was a crewleader as wrong is exactly why you shouldn't be leading. Time and again he went too far. Time and again you yucked it up with him and your pals. You are a disgrace to this place.

Why? Because I don't think users should police game rules? I don't. I imagine that is actually the whole point of why game rules exist, so that users can focus on playing their characters, having a good time and not worrying about any of that.