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[12:16] <Telkin> Zoom sux
[12:17] <Selena[MR]> Ruuudeee
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[12:20] <Selena[MR]> Drakeypoo!
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[12:22] <FranklinFigs[MR]> thanks Zoom[MR]
[12:23] <Telkin> !protect Selena[MR]
[12:23] <Drake[MR]> Selena[MR]!
[12:23] <Telkin> Hrm
[12:23] <Telkin> Why didn't that work
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[12:23] <FranklinFigs[MR]> no bot
[12:23] <Telkin> MarioIsABum is a bot
[12:23] <Telkin> lol
[12:23] <FranklinFigs[MR]> oh
[12:23] <FranklinFigs[MR]> there he is
[12:23] <FranklinFigs[MR]> he is too
[12:23] <Telkin> he is in fact, a bum
[12:24] <Telkin> hence the lag
[12:24] * Telkin nods.
[12:24] <FranklinFigs[MR]> this for just CLs?
[12:24] <FranklinFigs[MR]> or RHM?
[12:25] <Zoom[MR]> I'm just a coordinator m'dude
[12:25] <Zoom[MR]> To be determined :)
[12:25] <Zoom[MR]> Probably would be useful to get RH's in here
[12:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> word
[12:25] <Zoom[MR]> As it opens up schedules a bit
[12:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> will wait to let it sort out
[12:26] <Skorpeon[MR]> Hey guys I am around just lemme know when talks happen. I am just doing several things
[12:26] <Zoom[MR]> Shall do Skorpeon :) I think the actual meeting isn't planned yet, I was just setting this up so that it would be ready
[12:28] <FranklinFigs[MR]> same, gotta switch a battery in the kids 4 wheeler and swap cabin filters in the vehicles
[12:28] <FranklinFigs[MR]> oh and finish the desk
[12:33] <Telkin> cabin filter?
[12:35] <FranklinFigs[MR]> yea thats the filter in your car you never change and then you end up breathing in crap while you drive your car
[12:35] <FranklinFigs[MR]> or when you go to jiffy lube they try to upsell you by selling you one at a 200% mark up
[12:37] <Telkin> I will take your word for it :) I have owned a vehicle for precisely 7 weeks of my life, 5 weeks which were in 2008
[12:37] <Telkin> Then my Jimmy died on the way back from the MR Meet lol
[12:39] <FranklinFigs[MR]> i remember that!
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[12:44] <Telkin> Yeahhh. Not one of my brighter moments FranklinFigs :p
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[13:34] <Skorpeon[MR]> Zoom[MR] are RHMs welcomed?
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[13:35] <Zoom[MR]> Yes
[13:36] <Zoom[MR]> also keep in mind I'm just coordinating - decisions are a group effort for here :)
[13:36] <Zoom[MR]> Don't take what I say as final lol
[13:50] <LouisVuitton[MR]> All good Zoom[MR]
[13:52] <Selena[MR]> We definitely won't 😜 haha just teasing!
[13:55] <Skorpeon[MR]> Zoom[MR] can yo uinvite @venti
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[13:57] <Philli-stein[MR]> Buon Giorno tutti
[13:58] <Selena[MR]> Hey!
[14:23] <Zoom[MR]> Skorpeon for now the autokick thing isn't working
[14:23] <Zoom[MR]> they should be able to just /join #Revival
[14:26] <Selena[MR]> Should we all discuss a time? Filter it through to those not currently here??
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[14:30] <Zoom[MR]> A-true-soprano floated 20:00 tomorrow
[14:30] <Selena[MR]> That'd work for me
[14:30] <Zoom[MR]> In game time presumably
[14:31] <Selena[MR]> Uh huh
[14:34] <Selena[MR]> Maybe put that as the room info thing and if anyone objects we take it from there
[14:50] <Latom[MR]> Apparently today didn't suit our footy fans :)
[14:50] <Latom[MR]> Lots of drinking I presume
[14:51] <Selena[MR]> Lol priorities right 🤣
[15:15] <Philli-stein[MR]> 20:00 game time works for me
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[15:21] <Rowley[MR]> Hey!
[15:21] <Rowley[MR]> How are we all?
[15:28] <Selena[MR]> We should really discuss where we all stand with what happened yesterday
[15:48] <Philli-stein[MR]> Is there all that much to discuss? Izzy has made his position fairly clear, and since at days end the only way to gain say that is to leave, I think discussing the past is largely immaterial
[15:49] <Selena[MR]> Izzy needs to know where we stand on the matter, it was wrong and we do need to move forward
[15:50] <FranklinFigs[MR]> I sent him a message and posted in the thread
[15:50] <FranklinFigs[MR]> he was clear he needed some feedback from the leaders or he was coding out the 3 rank rule
[15:51] <Selena[MR]> Then we should all follow up on that Franklin he deserves that much
[15:51] <Philli-stein[MR]> "It was wrong" being the purging? No disrespect, just wanting to ensure that I'm reading what your writing the way you mean it.
[15:53] <Philli-stein[MR]> To late
[15:53] <Philli-stein[MR]> Izzy just stated in main that he's coding it in ow
[15:54] <Selena[MR]> Trying to force game changes is wrong
[15:54] <Philli-stein[MR]> Then we are on the same page.
[15:55] <Selena[MR]> Yes the problem lay on the lack of response Izzy received from most cls I guess
[15:56] <Philli-stein[MR]> Honestly, I'm not certain I dislike the change as coded. I just dislike the speed he tends to do something like this.
[16:23] <FranklinFigs[MR]> im on the fence
[16:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> on one hand it could keep people from refusing to rank. but on the other hand if you dont need auth to shoot a CL, get 100 of your best friends to create a character and shoot a CL in 24 hours
[16:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> you are bound to hit eventually
[16:28] <Philli-stein[MR]> Fair point. I guess I was mostly thinking in terms of the fact that there are almost no Truly 100% defense situations
[16:32] <Rowley[MR]> Okay, so my two cents.
[16:33] <Rowley[MR]> So, If I look at this pragmatically, I think this could provide a positive new dynamic for the game - something that would mirror the reality of the murkey world of the mafia - that anyone, with a gun, has the potential to kill another person.
[16:33] <Rowley[MR]> Potential is that this allows for revolts to be started of CLs are not liked, without the need for another CL to be involved,
[16:33] <Rowley[MR]> Which in turn puts more weight onto how we all act.
[16:34] <FranklinFigs[MR]> also a fair point. In real life there are repercussions though. no toddler is going to plot on a godfather
[16:34] <Rowley[MR]> The downsides are also obvious, it puts us all & our members at a higher risk
[16:35] <Rowley[MR]> i agree with that also
[16:36] <Philli-stein[MR]> The endless tradeoff between mechanics and realism
[16:42] <Rowley[MR]> Okay, so what about Auth being removed - but there is a max rank gap of say 5 anks so Gangster can shoot Made - earn your way to Made to shoot a GF?
[16:42] <Selena[MR]> Okay guys read izzys new thread and let's get to putting this right
[16:50] <FranklinFigs[MR]> Rowley[MR] is that gap there now?
[16:50] <FranklinFigs[MR]> also...im not sure what izzys thread is asking us to do
[16:50] <FranklinFigs[MR]> send him an email with a back alley thread?
[16:51] <LouisVuitton[MR]> Every Saturday at 20:30, I will check for a mail to a back alley thread that contains all the uppers stating that they denounce this ideology and they will keep their real life angst focused on other things, and not trying to intentionally cause the game to go offline or force game changes so it can survive.
[16:51] <LouisVuitton[MR]> He’s not checking it untill next week? So we have a week of this change now anyway?
[16:51] <Philli-stein[MR]> That's about the size of it
[16:51] <Selena[MR]> So we all sign a back alley thread that states we are in no way out to ruin the game
[16:52] <Selena[MR]> We should set it up and everyone signs like crew rules?
[16:52] <Rowley[MR]> My guess, we get that done quickly, the code may change back quickly.
[16:52] <Philli-stein[MR]> Th6ar was my thought Selena.
[16:52] <Selena[MR]> Agreed
[16:53] <FranklinFigs[MR]> im down -
[16:53] <Philli-stein[MR]> Rowley, I doubt we get less then a week of it. In his mind, that's our penance for not doing it in 12 hours?
[16:53] <Selena[MR]> Who fancies drafting the BA thread?
[16:54] <Drake[MR]> I'm down to sign as well.
[16:55] <Philli-stein[MR]> I'd say a city head should write the original version. Mostly because he'll be happier if leadership comes from the top.
[16:55] <Selena[MR]> Yeah definitely
[16:59] <Philli-stein[MR]> "We, the undersigned, do hearby agree to refrain from actions that are detrimental to the existence of the game, and will take the necessary steps to prevent others from using tactics detrimental to the survival of Mafia Returns."
[16:59] <FranklinFigs[MR]> Each city writes their own or get the counsel to write one and we all sign?
[17:00] <Philli-stein[MR]> Every upper, from every city, 1 thread
[17:00] <Philli-stein[MR]> As I read it
[17:00] <FranklinFigs[MR]> im down
[17:01] <Selena[MR]> Yeah one thread
[17:01] <LouisVuitton[MR]> Who’s making the thread?
[17:01] <FranklinFigs[MR]> center
[17:01] <Philli-stein[MR]> Pick a city head.
[17:02] <FranklinFigs[MR]> one of the chairmen
[17:02] <Philli-stein[MR]> I also suggest that each person signing sign name, position, crew. E.g. Philli-Stein, Right Hand, Zoom.
[17:05] <FranklinFigs[MR]> the shooting is already starting... we should be sending notes to our families to keep a close eye on CA personalls
[17:06] <Selena[MR]> Who's being shot at?
[17:06] <Selena[MR]> What about Rick he's online and a city head???
[17:07] <Selena[MR]> The sooner this is started the sooner we can be safer
[17:12] <FranklinFigs[MR]> perhaps sending something to the families with raise awareness for those that are unaware its in place?
[17:13] <Rowley[MR]> If you think something like this would do: https://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/1571266/tpass/28f46cf5289bd74f6560b0c314509769#24155661
[17:13] <Rowley[MR]> he can cut and paste and tidy it up
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[17:17] <Philli-stein[MR]> That's pretty tidy Rowlet
[17:17] <Philli-stein[MR]> Rowley
[17:18] <FranklinFigs[MR]> yup. Good lookin' out
[17:19] <Zoom[MR]> Just now back home at my computer
[17:19] <Philli-stein[MR]> Hell, I think the only things needing removal are " I would like to suggest we all make the following pledge" and the signature instructions
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[17:22] <Telkin|Away> Why the bloody fuck won't the akick work :(
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[17:22] <Selena[MR]> Okay look guys we need this ball rolling
[17:23] <Selena[MR]> If it speeds things up I'll do it?
[17:23] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> Happy to be invited but we're new and not even sure if we're going to be confirmed till Monday but happy to give any input you need
[17:24] <Selena[MR]> The quicker it's done the better we look to Izzy let's not just hang around getting shot relentlessly
[17:24] <LogenNinefingers[MR]> The way I read the thread is we are stuck with the change until next Saturday at the earliest
[17:24] <Zoom[MR]> Correct Logen
[17:24] <Zoom[MR]> I don't think the origin of the thread matters all that much tbh
[17:24] <Zoom[MR]> Feel free Selena
[17:25] <Selena[MR]> But lets in good faith get this done
[17:25] <Selena[MR]> Are we happy with what rowley wrote???
[17:25] <LouisVuitton[MR]> True Logen
[17:25] <LouisVuitton[MR]> yep
[17:25] <Philli-stein[MR]> Sweet fuck...Rick Dalton dead
[17:25] <LouisVuitton[MR]> What
[17:26] <Philli-stein[MR]> He's dead.
[17:26] <Philli-stein[MR]> Someone shit him
[17:26] <Philli-stein[MR]> Shot*
[17:26] <LouisVuitton[MR]> :/
[17:26] <Selena[MR]> 🤦♀️
[17:26] <LogenNinefingers[MR]> ffs
[17:26] <LogenNinefingers[MR]> & I brought a HQ in the wrong city
[17:27] <LogenNinefingers[MR]> Can someone mass mail for WS believe he was chicago
[17:27] * Philli-stein[MR] facepalm
[17:27] <Philli-stein[MR]> Will do
[17:28] <Philli-stein[MR]> Mail sent
[17:30] <Philli-stein[MR]> Alright, Selena is correct. And if that doesn't put a torch under the collective ass, nothing will.
[17:30] <Selena[MR]> https://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/1571269/tpass/563dc258fd9f5f28b54f0b1815feff8f/page1#post-3100486
[17:31] <Philli-stein[MR]> Anyone have an objection to what Rowley/myself wrote?
[17:31] <Telkin|Away> nope
[17:32] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> looks good to me
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[17:32] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> no......it's fine
[17:32] <Philli-stein[MR]> Sorry Ron. The actual pledge was my work, and I'm shit at grammer
[17:33] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> i'm joking, it's absolutely fit for purpose
[17:35] <Selena[MR]> We need to chase this up also
[17:35] <Selena[MR]> Can someone make a thread and tick names off as we go
[17:37] <Telkin|Away> Yep
[17:37] <Philli-stein[MR]> Yeah. I'll be on my laptop in a bit and will start a checklist
[17:37] <Selena[MR]> Thanks philli!
[17:38] <Rowley[MR]> Blame me for the poor writing bits - Philli wrote the most important bit!
[17:39] <Zoom[MR]> no no it's okay to blame Philli-stein
[17:39] <Zoom[MR]> He's used to it.
[17:39] <Zoom[MR]> Must keep him humble.
[17:40] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> I feel bad now!
[17:40] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> well, not really
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[17:43] <Philli-stein[MR]> The bit I wrote I did on Mobile, on this channel. And I'm grammatically challanged
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[17:45] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> you're magnificent!
[17:45] <Selena[MR]> Do we have ws yet for Rick?
[17:47] <Selena[MR]> Also who's currently in ch with vision?
[17:47] <Philli-stein[MR]> Not as yet.
[17:49] <Zoom[MR]> Hrm. Wonder why he left.
[17:51] <Selena[MR]> Who??
[17:51] <Philli-stein[MR]> Loganninefingers
[17:51] <Zoom[MR]> Logen, they'll be back though - he mailed me
[17:51] <Selena[MR]> He's probably busy picking up the pieces of what just
[17:53] <Zoom[MR]> Aye :)
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[17:57] <Selena[MR]> What's the best plan of action? Everyone remaining in their own cities with their crews to catch witness statements???
[17:59] <Philli-stein[MR]> Get names on the thread. That's the first thing.
[17:59] <PoisonIvy[MR]> We need to get everyone onboard for sure
[17:59] <Philli-stein[MR]> We're not going to stop this until that code gets switched back on. Best we can do is try to catch WS' and wack wackers
[18:00] <Selena[MR]> The sooner it's done the more reason Izzy has to change back
[18:01] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Exactly
[18:01] <Selena[MR]> Admiral down also
[18:01] <Philli-stein[MR]> 20 of 52(?)
[18:02] <Selena[MR]> Where was this anyone know???
[18:02] <LouisVuitton[MR]> A week of this?
[18:02] <LouisVuitton[MR]> 🥴
[18:03] <Selena[MR]> And what's the plan if someone isn't willing to sign??
[18:04] <Philli-stein[MR]> Peer pressure, politely, less politely, weaponized?
[18:04] <Selena[MR]> Depends who's left standing after this I guess
[18:04] <Philli-stein[MR]> Snort.
[18:05] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> well surely someone unwilling to sign is, well, a statement of intent.
[18:05] <Philli-stein[MR]> You ain't wrong. I'm about to grab that list of uppers, and start a checklist
[18:06] <Selena[MR]> It's something we will need to take care if if the time comes
[18:06] <Selena[MR]> But a week of this and we will lose too many good people
[18:06] <Selena[MR]> It needs done and dusted by tomorrow
[18:07] <Philli-stein[MR]> I don't know if it will matter
[18:07] <Selena[MR]> We need to try
[18:07] <Philli-stein[MR]> Fair
[18:07] <Zoom[MR]> It won't matter on Izzy's end for a week, getting the list fully signed ahead of time, for now, is a waste of energy while there are people dying.
[18:08] <Selena[MR]> I'm not about to sit back and let good people like Rick die for nothing
[18:08] <Selena[MR]> It takes 2 seconds to sign in the meantime we need witnesses badly
[18:10] <Zoom[MR]> 23 / 51
[18:11] <Zoom[MR]> 14 of the unsigned 28 are offlien
[18:11] <Zoom[MR]> offline*
[18:11] <PoisonIvy[MR]> So there are people online that just aren’t signing.
[18:11] <PoisonIvy[MR]> My hands and I have all signed
[18:12] <Selena[MR]> Who hasn't signed who is obline???
[18:12] <Zoom[MR]> I'm just pointing out the numbers of it - and putting backing into wanting to find the WS' urgently
[18:12] <BlueOrchid[MR]> Yeah, I've signed in virtual blood :D
[18:12] <Selena[MR]> Online**
[18:13] <Zoom[MR]> The only advantage of having everyone sign it more quickly is to weed out who's not on board, and we can't with 100% certainty know that they're intentionally not signing or if they're just busy
[18:14] <Selena[MR]> I'm more concerned about the people online who have ignored the plea to join here and sign and have done neither
[18:15] <Selena[MR]> Whilst we are target practice for a vengeful invisible horde
[18:15] <Zoom[MR]> Fair enough. As I said, there's no way to 100% know that there's malice behind any of it.
[18:15] <Zoom[MR]> a-t-s for example is busy
[18:15] <Zoom[MR]> It's not much effort to stay "online" for MR when it shows you for 10 mins, I've often been active and not paying a single iota of attention
[18:18] <PoisonIvy[MR]> True. I’ve been known to get on when I’m super busy and be on 30 seconds or less and never check my mail so I’d say we will have a better idea after 24 hours.
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[18:19] <Zoom[MR]> Aye, that's all I was pointing out really, is to be not hasty with the conclusions we're drawing/debating
[18:19] <Zoom[MR]> Every city currently has a major rep in here
[18:20] <Zoom[MR]> Almost everyone has responded in some type of way to the request to join here either by joining, or mailing saying they will when they can
[18:20] <Zoom[MR]> I apologize for not communicating that last bit properly
[18:20] <FranklinFigs[MR]> are we keeping track in a spreadsheet on who needs to concur?
[18:21] <LouisVuitton[MR]> This is messy
[18:21] <Zoom[MR]> I apologize. I'm just getting home not long ago
[18:21] <Zoom[MR]> Alan will be joining, as will; Scousepole, a-t-s
[18:22] <Philli-stein[MR]> I'm setting up a sheet now
[18:22] <Zoom[MR]> lemme sort through my mails
[18:22] <Zoom[MR]> figure out who else replied
[18:22] <LouisVuitton[MR]> Nice one bro we need order
[18:22] <LouisVuitton[MR]> I’m brand new round here.
[18:24] <Zoom[MR]> Gimpanzee will also be joining
[18:24] <Zoom[MR]> Nipples is old and saggy but it's okay, FranklinFigs is here
[18:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> once Nipples gets on we will need him to change his LHM
[18:25] <Zoom[MR]> Like I said though just don't take too much stock in what it means if people don't join right away, folks are busy :) The thread signing and the WS' are definitely priority in my opinion
[18:26] <Zoom[MR]> Yeah nobody likes saggy sideboob :\
[18:26] <FranklinFigs[MR]> also saggy sideboob is in jail and cant post
[18:26] <FranklinFigs[MR]> lol
[18:27] <Zoom[MR]> <_< that too
[18:29] <Selena[MR]> I've requested my whole crew flies back to and stays in pioneer square to catch witnesses and also eliminate them as potential threats
[18:31] <Drake[MR]> I requested OVO returns to LV
[18:31] <Selena[MR]> Sorry for your lose drake! We will find whoever done this.
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[18:32] <Zoom[MR]> I won't be requesting people flock to any one area/using their timers - but it's not an awful idea.
[18:34] <Selena[MR]> At this point relying on witnesses to come forward seems fruitless this is the only alternative I can think of
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[18:37] <PoisonIvy[MR]> I’ve asked for mine to return and to keep an eye on their personals and those of their CAs so WS
[18:37] <PoisonIvy[MR]> *for
[18:38] <Drake[MR]> Thanks Selena[MR] not sure why he was targeted
[18:39] <Selena[MR]> Pretty sure it's just mindless murder tbf
[18:39] <Drake[MR]> Yeah
[18:41] <Philli-stein[MR]> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1udWCS2XI4pPHNUaqN1xVUUEPNU_p8xy11iE11nHRhA4/edit?usp=sharing A listing of uppers, including position and City. we currently have 31 of 51 signature
[18:42] <Selena[MR]> Good effort let's keep at it!
[18:42] <Philli-stein[MR]> If we get to 50 of 51, it miiight be worth it to talk to Izzy about getting a message to sideboob, despite their current status. If that's all we're missing to make it unanimous, Then asking him to speak to her however possible seems viable
[18:43] <FranklinFigs[MR]> nice work
[18:44] <FranklinFigs[MR]> last post is this sheet!
[18:46] <Philli-stein[MR]> Works for me
[18:46] <Philli-stein[MR]> I already fatfingered one input. Please help me check that I didn't fuck it up
[18:51] <Rowley[MR]> Kes has signed it
[18:52] <Philli-stein[MR]> She's marked
[18:52] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> yeah, i'd recognise his 'x' anywhere
[18:53] <Philli-stein[MR]> whuppps
[18:53] <Philli-stein[MR]> I'm having a fucky braiing daaayayyy
[18:54] <Selena[MR]> Another death, one of yours rowley
[18:55] <Rowley[MR]> Yeah I saw, just asking for WS
[18:55] <Rowley[MR]> not too sure if he’s done something stupid or not
[18:56] <Zoom[MR]> lol
[18:56] <Zoom[MR]> I mean did he tell you who he was?
[18:56] <Zoom[MR]> 100% wouldn't be surprised if he just got shot for being himself :"P
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[18:57] <LouisVuitton[MR]> Someone tried me but he’s dead so it’s cool
[18:58] <Selena[MR]> Possibly the same guy who hit rick?
[18:58] <Philli-stein[MR]> Fun. I suspect that we'll see a couple more, but that this is partly the code leveling out. So I'm guessing we'll see less of it for the next couple days
[18:58] <Zoom[MR]> A couple of the deaths were also IAs
[18:58] <Zoom[MR]> and likely nothing to do with anything
[19:03] <LouisVuitton[MR]> No idea need WS :(
[19:03] <LouisVuitton[MR]> They are like gold dust
[19:09] <Selena[MR]> It's actually pretty worrying
[19:11] <Selena[MR]> A couple haven't signed the thread correctly either...
[19:11] <Philli-stein[MR]> As long as they've signed it. I'm not too bothed by the form on the signatures
[19:12] <Philli-stein[MR]> no one has signed it with words that indicate that they won't do it, so should be all good
[19:12] <Selena[MR]> I know I know
[19:26] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Hopefully as the day goes on more people will see it and sign
[19:26] <Philli-stein[MR]> We only need 16 more
[19:27] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> It is saturday night, some people may have those things we've heard of............lives.......whatever they are.
[19:27] <FranklinFigs[MR]> whats that?
[19:27] * Ron_Swanson[MR] considers his life choices
[19:28] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> heh
[19:28] * Philli-stein[MR] looks around uncomfortably
[19:28] <Philli-stein[MR]> What is a...life??
[19:28] * Ron_Swanson[MR] shuffles and stares at feet
[19:28] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> i have no idea
[19:28] <PoisonIvy[MR]> I’ve heard they are over rated
[19:29] * Ron_Swanson[MR] nods
[19:29] <Selena[MR]> Waffles dead also
[19:29] <Selena[MR]> Sorry to sour the mood 😂
[19:31] <Philli-stein[MR]> and bin-diesel
[19:31] <PoisonIvy[MR]> I’m assuming no one has come forward with any ws for any of our fallen?
[19:31] <Selena[MR]> Unfortunately no
[19:31] <Philli-stein[MR]> not a one
[19:32] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> similar
[19:32] <PoisonIvy[MR]> cant help but wonder if we have a group of people doing this and traveling together trying to catch the ws
[19:33] <Selena[MR]> Or the general public don't quite like any of us
[19:33] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> well, i was thinking the same, but the people dieing seem far too random
[19:33] <PoisonIvy[MR]> could be true as well Selena[MR]
[19:33] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> I genuinely think it's just happy hour and it'll calm down
[19:33] <Kes[MR]> Bin shot at someone as did waffles. Both shot at some low rank goombas
[19:34] <Selena[MR]> Oh well, in that case, good riddance
[19:34] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Gotcha
[19:35] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> well i'm off to bed. stay safe all
[19:35] <Drake[MR]> Night
[19:35] <Kes[MR]> Problem is this change was ment to be so we had more chance to be killed. But alot of low rankers shooting low rankers also. Which is also detrimental to the game
[19:35] <Selena[MR]> 100%
[19:35] <Kes[MR]> So if we get everyone signed might help push it through before next week
[19:35] <Selena[MR]> Night night ron
[19:36] <Selena[MR]> That's what im thinking kes we need to keep at it for sure
[19:38] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Night Ron_Swanson[MR]
[19:39] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Its worth a shot for sure
[19:39] <Kes[MR]> Right I need to pass out for a bit. My turn to be up with the baby in the morning.
[19:42] <Philli-stein[MR]> Get your zzzz while you can Kes
[19:45] <Zoom[MR]> Izzy said he'll consider tweaking the one week if it's near full
[19:47] <Selena[MR]> I've already gave him the threads link also but maybe you could give him it again as it was on irc
[19:49] <Zoom[MR]> I have
[19:49] <Selena[MR]> ❤
[19:51] <PoisonIvy[MR]> That’s good news. I mean we keep getting more to sign
[20:32] <Selena[MR]> I'm heading to sleep! If anyone needs me message vito please he will be able to contact me 😁 stay safe everyone.
[20:47] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Night Selena[MR]
[20:48] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Im not going to bed yet but if anyone ever needs me and I’m not here my hands can reach me
[21:39] <Philli-stein[MR]> Aight folks, I'm about to call it a night. We're at 37 signitures of 51 needed.
[21:39] <Philli-stein[MR]> Gimpanzee, if you're here. I did see your message to Zoom. He's off for the evening, but i shot him a whatsapp, it'll be taken care of
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[23:47] <Nipples[MR]> Alright then, who wants to be the first to get called a chicken fucker?
[23:54] * FranklinFigs[MR] points at Kes[MR]
[02:47] <Kes[MR]> Lol
[03:11] <Philli-stein[MR]> 2am insomniac update. Looks like we are only 7 names short of having all (non-admin jailed) uppers signed onto our thread.
[03:20] <LouisVuitton[MR]> That’s good, nearly done
[03:21] <LouisVuitton[MR]> What’s the link? Mine isn’t updating
[03:58] <Philli-stein[MR]> I haven't updated the spreadsheet yet. I'm on my phone
[04:05] <LouisVuitton[MR]> Np man
[04:11] <LouisVuitton[MR]> So izzy said he may shorten the time? If we sort all the signatures
[04:12] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> how's the signature situation?
[04:15] <Philli-stein[MR]> A handful to go. 5+ sydeboub, who is going to be a touch dicey
[04:16] <Kes[MR]> Not bad. Just shy of 90%
[04:17] <Philli-stein[MR]> Ayup. Once we get to 50, I'll shoot izzy a message asking what might be done to cover the final name, considering the circumstances
[04:17] <Kes[MR]> Might be worth sending a reminder out to who hasn't signed yet. Philli of you can send
[04:17] <Kes[MR]> I
[04:17] <Kes[MR]> Fucking phone
[04:18] <Kes[MR]> If you can send me the names of who hasn't when you update the list ill send a reminder to them
[04:19] <Kes[MR]> Or let me know when it's updated i can get the names myself
[04:19] <Philli-stein[MR]> Aye. Apparently it's a night where I can't sleep, so I'll grab my laptop in a bit and dip an update
[04:23] <Kes[MR]> Hahah I feel your pain. I was up most of the night.
[04:24] <Philli-stein[MR]> Rough.
[04:24] <Philli-stein[MR]> I'm just glad Telkin is offline. That dude can be harder gurren hell to get to rest
[04:25] <LouisVuitton[MR]> Someone just killed Vito
[04:27] <Philli-stein[MR]> Fuck.
[04:27] <LouisVuitton[MR]> :(
[04:29] <Philli-stein[MR]> I just sent a quick mail request any ws on it be sent to a Seattle upper
[04:33] <LouisVuitton[MR]> Forwarded to my crew
[04:35] <Philli-stein[MR]> Scousepole just sent new the obit with changeisneeded's name next to Vito. I assume saying that Change shot Vito and he shot change
[04:39] <LouisVuitton[MR]> That 1 day old account?
[04:39] <LouisVuitton[MR]> FML
[05:56] <Selena[MR]> Morning everyone 😴
[06:03] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Morning all. Looks like we are so close!
[06:10] <Selena[MR]> Can we confirm who shot vito is dead?
[06:17] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Idk. But If we’ve got one day olds killing bosses we’ve seriously got a problem.
[06:21] <Selena[MR]> Very much so 😔
[06:31] <Philli-stein[MR]> Jaden, Jadon, and rev. Al sharpton.
[06:31] <Philli-stein[MR]> Those are the only ones unsigned, sideboob notwithstanding
[06:33] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Has anyone reached out to them yet?
[06:52] <Philli-stein[MR]> Not since the initial mail.
[09:33] <Telkin|Away> <3 Philli-stein[MR]
[09:37] <Zoom[MR]> wtf is a gurren hell though
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[09:55] <Nipples[MR]> I removed Sy_DeBoub from his LHM position.
[09:55] <Nipples[MR]> So all upper structure from my family has signed. Just waiting on you guys. *yawns*
[09:58] <Zoom[MR]> Stellar
[09:58] <Zoom[MR]> I think that leaves maybe 3 signatures
[09:58] <Zoom[MR]> Which should be good enough to get this thing turned off
[10:12] <Alejandro-[MR]> In a week though right?
[10:18] <Zoom[MR]> Izzy said last night that he'd reconsider that timeframe depending on how many signatures we get by end of day today
[10:19] <LouisVuitton[MR]> Izzy said he may shorten it, if we got to filling the thread out quickly
[10:19] <FranklinFigs[MR]> ^^
[10:19] <Zoom[MR]> we're only a few signatures short so I think he'll bend
[10:19] <LouisVuitton[MR]> Hopefully
[10:38] <Drake[MR]> Good morning everyone
[10:42] <Zoom[MR]> howdy
[10:42] <FranklinFigs[MR]> 👋
[10:45] <Skorpeon[MR]> All of upper structure from Arachnida have signed.. - Good morning folks
[10:47] <Zoom[MR]> Replies:
[10:47] <Zoom[MR]> 47
[10:47] <Zoom[MR]> only 48 uppers right now
[10:47] <Zoom[MR]> think we're guud
[10:57] <Skorpeon[MR]> i count 3 people have not done it.
[10:58] <Skorpeon[MR]> but i also havent had coffee yet
[11:21] <Philli-stein[MR]> At least one existing reply is someone who is now dead
[11:21] <Philli-stein[MR]> We need 4. Jaden, Jason, rev. Al Sharpton, and sideboob
[11:22] <Philli-stein[MR]> 10 points to whoever gets sideboobs situation figured out
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[11:34] <Skorpeon[MR]> I had Jeden, Jadon, Reverend. I missed Sideboob
[11:37] <Skorpeon[MR]> Shit, now we need Durden, Marla, and Robert to sign :P
[11:43] <Rowley[MR]> Lolss
[11:48] <FranklinFigs[MR]> can we get them to send a Mobmail and link the screen shot?!
[11:48] <FranklinFigs[MR]> har har
[11:48] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> badum tish
[12:14] <Zoom[MR]> I'll give the list another hard look in a mo', but I think we're only missing 1 signature, and I know that the person is quite busy irl cleaning up damage done by some of the wildfires near them
[13:00] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Morning lovely people
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[13:14] <MarioIsABum> [Telkin] <&Aizlynn[MR]> Here you go with these labels again that I never agreed to <&Sisyphus[MR]> If people had to agree to everything then we'd not have haunted houses or surprise birthday parties
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[13:29] <Scousepole[MR]> For the record and the room. I did not shoot that rhm. Just thought I'd put the here for everyone that was concerned or worried.
[13:35] <Alejandro-[MR]> Which RHM?
[13:35] <Alejandro-[MR]> Knight was one?
[13:39] <Scousepole[MR]> No selanas
[13:40] <Alejandro-[MR]> Ah ok
[13:40] <Alejandro-[MR]> good to know. I’m her LHM.
[13:40] <Scousepole[MR]> Good
[13:41] <Scousepole[MR]> But it wasn't me..apparently vito from the grave put my name in the hat
[13:42] <Alejandro-[MR]> Didn’t know that.
[13:42] <Scousepole[MR]> Thats what Selena told me. So just acting on that Info
[13:43] <Scousepole[MR]> Anyway. Bored of the subject. Wasn't me. End of that
[13:47] <Alejandro-[MR]> Saw a LV made guy drop. You guys looking for a WS?
[13:47] <Scousepole[MR]> No
[13:54] <Scousepole[MR]> Also no ws need for that last shot too
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[15:04] <Scousepole[MR]> https://mafiareturns.com/news/uprofile.php?id=2451303
[15:04] <Scousepole[MR]> this needs deading
[15:05] <Scousepole[MR]> gangster
[15:05] <Scousepole[MR]> +1 not in a family
[15:06] <Sal_Giaquinto[MR]> In 12th St DT
[15:06] <Scousepole[MR]> needs killing
[15:07] <Scousepole[MR]> if it has a gun it can take a shot
[15:07] <Sal_Giaquinto[MR]> Don't have an open shot
[15:07] <Scousepole[MR]> if its not already
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[15:15] <Bandito[MR]> Did we ever find out who killed Rick?
[15:17] <LouisVuitton[MR]> Yeah some ass hole called haymitch
[15:18] <LouisVuitton[MR]> https://mafiareturns.com/news/uprofile.php?id=2451375
[15:20] <Bandito[MR]> Damn
[15:21] <Bandito[MR]> What about AdmiralAckbar-?
[15:22] <Bandito[MR]> He was IWP, must've been a decent gun
[15:23] <Bandito[MR]> if not a 1%
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[15:39] <Skorpeon[MR]> How are the names organized on the side
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[15:49] <Telkin> fuck you MarioIsABum
[15:50] * MarioIsABum sets mode: +o Alejandro-[MR]
[15:50] * MarioIsABum sets mode: +o BellaBrusca[MR]
[15:50] * MarioIsABum sets mode: +o Sal_Giaquinto[MR]
[15:50] * MarioIsABum sets mode: +o Tetley[MR]
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[15:50] <Telkin> it'll get cleaned up at some point, it started out being city heads as up top
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[15:51] * MarioIsABum sets mode: +o Rowley[MR]
[15:51] <Telkin> not sure really who's moving where or what's going on yet so for now pay no mind to it i suppose
[15:52] <Selena[MR]> Still starting in 8 mins?
[15:53] <Zoom[MR]> believe so. the few things I had in mind to bring up shant take long though.
[15:54] <Selena[MR]> I'll try my best to keep up pretty busy
[15:54] <Zoom[MR]> first week of NFL
[15:54] <Zoom[MR]> i won't take long lol
[15:54] <Zoom[MR]> (though if anyone else has anything to pitch, feel free of course)
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[16:00] <FranklinFigs[MR]> present
[16:00] <Tetley[MR]> For me? can I open it now?
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[16:01] <Zoom[MR]> Okay given that we've all had a long weekend I'm sure and that it's week 1 of NFL I'll be brief with what I had in mind to bring up
[16:01] <Zoom[MR]> WS protocol would be solid to have people on the same page with to avoid 2123131 mails / questions
[16:01] <PoisonIvy[MR]> Exactly I ran into that today.
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[16:02] <Tamo[MR]> hello friends
[16:02] <Alejandro-[MR]> Think many leaders are.
[16:02] <a-true-soprano[MR]> brb
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[16:03] <Zoom[MR]> I'm up for suggestions or I can pose them
[16:03] <Zoom[MR]> generally a mail is sent out or a request is posted in the funeral
[16:04] <Zoom[MR]> optimally if neither of those are done...assume a WS isn't needed?
[16:04] <Scousepole[MR]> i killed your memeber he shot at some in a mail will work
[16:04] <Latom[MR]> yes
[16:04] <Scousepole[MR]> no ws mail required
[16:04] <Scousepole[MR]> job done
[16:04] <Scousepole[MR]> send the ws with it if you want
[16:04] <Tetley[MR]> I'd say in this current climate where anyone can shoot without auth we dispatch people asap and inform their leader
[16:04] <Scousepole[MR]> kill them first
[16:04] <Scousepole[MR]> inform after
[16:04] <Scousepole[MR]> why wait
[16:05] <Tetley[MR]> Delaying just lets them get more shots off
[16:05] <Latom[MR]> Unless it's a low on low shot as it might be friendly
[16:05] <Rowley[MR]> I agree, Given the current situation, lets assume WS are all needed, but if it's an auth'd shot - a simple mail to say that will stop that process.
[16:05] <Scousepole[MR]> exactly
[16:05] <Skorpeon[MR]> yea, they should be shot on sight then inform
[16:05] <Scousepole[MR]> so no leader should feel put out
[16:05] <a-true-soprano[MR]> I agree, just make sure we remember the inform after part.
[16:05] <Zoom[MR]> In the cases where the shot was taken intentionally, a mail should suffice I agree, in the unknowns
[16:05] <Zoom[MR]> post in funeral or mail?
[16:05] <Scousepole[MR]> ive given all mine the green light to return fire if they can hit
[16:06] <Latom[MR]> funeral
[16:07] <Zoom[MR]> sounds like a plan
[16:07] <Alejandro-[MR]> Funerals are the easiest way for all to see.
[16:07] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> makes sense
[16:08] <Tetley[MR]> So just asking for WS's in funerals? of the dead?
[16:08] <Skorpeon[MR]> I believe so
[16:08] <Rowley[MR]> Can I pose a question?
[16:08] <Tetley[MR]> Sure
[16:08] <Zoom[MR]> You just did, old man
[16:08] <Zoom[MR]> Did you forget your meds? :(
[16:08] <Rowley[MR]> lols
[16:09] <Rowley[MR]> Unspons Gangsters or about to turn Gangster are assuming these to be a threat?
[16:09] <Scousepole[MR]> yes
[16:09] <Rowley[MR]> perfect
[16:09] <Latom[MR]> indeed
[16:09] <Alejandro-[MR]> Why?
[16:09] <Scousepole[MR]> becuase they can shoot at you
[16:09] <Alejandro-[MR]> Anyone can.
[16:09] <Scousepole[MR]> yes
[16:09] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> plenty of time to have found a family
[16:09] <Scousepole[MR]> but people are gona do it at gangster with fuck all to loose
[16:09] <Scousepole[MR]> so yea
[16:09] <Alejandro-[MR]> So you guys are just going to kill about to turn gangsters?
[16:09] <Tetley[MR]> Yes but most of the shooters have been new spawn gangsters who haven't joined a family
[16:09] <Scousepole[MR]> yes
[16:09] <Scousepole[MR]> happily
[16:10] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> agreed
[16:10] <Tetley[MR]> they just rinse and repeat
[16:10] <a-true-soprano[MR]> we can't kill the about to turn gangster
[16:10] <Scousepole[MR]> as these are most likely to be shooting
[16:10] <Alejandro-[MR]> So how is that not purging? lol
[16:10] <a-true-soprano[MR]> but we can kill those that have turned
[16:10] <Scousepole[MR]> oh god..im so over that word
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[16:10] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> we're not talking about ia's
[16:10] <Zoom[MR]> Tamo, is there a reason that you're here?
[16:10] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> just active without a family
[16:10] <Tetley[MR]> Alejandro-[MR] have you never shot someone during a war at gangster in case they are a pro wacker?
[16:11] <Tetley[MR]> No difference
[16:11] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> no excuse to have not found a family if active
[16:11] <Alejandro-[MR]> I haven't.
[16:11] <Scousepole[MR]> its not purging becuase people are making gangster accounts with the intention of shooting at us
[16:11] <Tamo[MR]> Im Gashs LH, just currently not set as hand so i cannot be targetted
[16:11] <Latom[MR]> lh of gash Zoom
[16:11] <Cromwell[MR]> Tamo is a LH, Zoom
[16:11] <Tetley[MR]> Give it time, you will
[16:11] <Tamo[MR]> yet, since hes not here Ill attend
[16:11] <Scousepole[MR]> becuase the dont need auth currently
[16:11] <Skorpeon[MR]> they have 24 hours to find a home if they want one. plenty of time
[16:11] <Zoom[MR]> Gotcha
[16:11] <Zoom[MR]> Apologies for the kick
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[16:12] <Alejandro-[MR]> The reason the game is like this is because of actions already done, and now we're just going to continue them?
[16:12] <Alejandro-[MR]> Its a 1% on a shot.
[16:12] <Scousepole[MR]> mate
[16:12] <Scousepole[MR]> reign it in ffs
[16:12] <Alejandro-[MR]> If you do that, you're just asking for more people to do it.
[16:12] <Scousepole[MR]> thats whats gona happen
[16:12] <Alejandro-[MR]> And then Izzy may or may not get rid of it.
[16:12] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> it's entirely different Alejandro
[16:12] <Scousepole[MR]> dont like it..then dont do it
[16:12] <Scousepole[MR]> but dont cry when the 1% kicks in like last night and we lost a gf
[16:13] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> also, we should be notifiying those online that this will be the case
[16:13] <a-true-soprano[MR]> I consider it as simple as if you choose to not find housing within the 24 first hours, you have nobody protecing you
[16:13] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> where we can obviously
[16:13] <a-true-soprano[MR]> you should expect to be an easy target for anyone
[16:13] <Rowley[MR]> to be fair, in "normal" times it was a legit target anyhow, i just wanted to clarify there was a sense of urgency on the shots.
[16:14] <Alejandro-[MR]> I didn't cry when a GF died. Don't think I'd cry if it happened to me neither.
[16:14] <Tetley[MR]> 21:12:17 <@Alejandro-[MR]> Its a 1% on a shot. tell that to RickDalton
[16:14] <Scousepole[MR]> well i cried
[16:14] <Alejandro-[MR]> Because I know I'm not a target.
[16:14] <Scousepole[MR]> becuase he was a fucking good one
[16:14] <Scousepole[MR]> oh so thats ok then
[16:14] <Zoom[MR]> There's a difference between what was stated in the Announcement and protecting yourself from being shot at. 24 hours is indeed plenty of time to get yourself into a family.
[16:14] <Scousepole[MR]> becuase you arent a target
[16:14] <Alejandro-[MR]> I mean you guys know why Izzy did that right? lol
[16:14] <Scousepole[MR]> thats ok then
[16:14] <FranklinFigs[MR]> its normal to shoot an unsponsored gangster no matter the time.. you just have to take your -1 potentially
[16:14] <Scousepole[MR]> dont worry about the rest of us
[16:15] <Alejandro-[MR]> Where did I say that?
[16:15] <Alejandro-[MR]> I just said I'm ok with it cause I don't think I'm being targeted.
[16:15] <Scousepole[MR]> 21:14 <@Alejandro-[MR]> Because I know I'm not a target.
[16:15] <Alejandro-[MR]> Right.
[16:15] <Selena[MR]> Guys enough
[16:15] <Alejandro-[MR]> Ok.
[16:15] <Scousepole[MR]> either get on board with things, or fuck off
[16:15] <Cromwell[MR]> I have been shot at 4 times today, Alejandro, are you suggesting that is fine then? We sit back and let that happen?
[16:15] <Scousepole[MR]> its really that simple
[16:16] <Alejandro-[MR]> Find the shooter?
[16:16] <Drake[MR]> how are we protecting our members?
[16:16] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> yeah, a consensus has been agreed, let's move on
[16:16] <Cromwell[MR]> Good advice
[16:16] <Scousepole[MR]> that easy then, yea
[16:16] <Scousepole[MR]> good one
[16:16] <Alejandro-[MR]> Thanks lol
[16:16] <Cromwell[MR]> smart guy this one
[16:16] <Selena[MR]> We don't need to swear either we agree move on
[16:16] <Scousepole[MR]> no we dont move on
[16:16] <Scousepole[MR]> becuase hes not on with us
[16:16] <Scousepole[MR]> becuase hes not a target
[16:16] <Scousepole[MR]> and he wasnt bothered by the 1% of a gf
[16:16] <Alejandro-[MR]> Because I don't want to kill recently turned gangsters?
[16:16] <Scousepole[MR]> no
[16:17] <Scousepole[MR]> your logic behind it
[16:17] <Alejandro-[MR]> Because I don't think I'm a target?
[16:17] <Scousepole[MR]> like i say
[16:17] <Scousepole[MR]> get on board, or fuck off
[16:17] <Alejandro-[MR]> Ok
[16:17] <Scousepole[MR]> last ill say to you on it
[16:17] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> I have to agree, it's quite a reasonable solution
[16:17] <a-true-soprano[MR]> It's a question of wether or not we want to work as a collective to adress this special time, or not
[16:17] <Skorpeon[MR]> why would you leave unsponsored running around Alejandro-[MR]?
[16:18] <Kes[MR]> Its the only solution. It shouldn't even be up for debate
[16:18] <a-true-soprano[MR]> Some may be more targetted than others, doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't help out
[16:18] <a-true-soprano[MR]> And no, it's not up for debate
[16:18] <a-true-soprano[MR]> we've concluded
[16:18] <Bandito[MR]> 15:16 <@Drake[MR]> how are we protecting our members?
[16:18] <Bandito[MR]> My dawg asked a question
[16:19] <a-true-soprano[MR]> Buy them bgs, and kill the threats
[16:19] <a-true-soprano[MR]> Any other suggestions?
[16:19] <FranklinFigs[MR]> canI review what I think we have talked about?
[16:20] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> good idea
[16:20] <FranklinFigs[MR]> when you turn gangster and you are unsponsored you are eligible for being killed..this is no different than anything for all of time -
[16:20] <FranklinFigs[MR]> its always been that way
[16:20] <Tetley[MR]> If your forts are good & they don't have BG's tell them to stay in home city Drake[MR]
[16:21] <Tetley[MR]> That said it's CL's mostly being targeted not members
[16:21] <FranklinFigs[MR]> 2nd. someone kills someone they shouldnt we kill them...dont wait for leadership of the other family unless its a questionable occurrence
[16:21] <Scousepole[MR]> 21:21 <@FranklinFigs[MR]> 2nd. someone kills someone they shouldnt we kill them...dont wait for leadership of the other family unless its a questionable occurrence
[16:21] <Scousepole[MR]> mine have the green light to do just that
[16:21] <Drake[MR]> Admiral got shot "1%" supposedly. Rick got killed 1%. Pros are a no go apparently, so we just sit and allow the shots to be taken?
[16:22] <Scousepole[MR]> well we kill gangsters that have turned
[16:22] <FranklinFigs[MR]> 3rd dont look for WS unless asked for in email or funeral
[16:22] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> FranklinFigs[MR] that is my understanding yes
[16:22] <Tetley[MR]> Pro's are no different than randoms shooting you
[16:22] <Rowley[MR]> Always been a 1% chance on pro's
[16:22] <Scousepole[MR]> ^^^
[16:22] <Scousepole[MR]> exactly
[16:22] <Scousepole[MR]> ^^^
[16:22] <Scousepole[MR]> exactly
[16:22] <Scousepole[MR]> its senseless and cause more confusion
[16:23] <Drake[MR]> Okay so sit back
[16:23] <Drake[MR]> got it
[16:23] <Scousepole[MR]> well izzy made the rule
[16:23] <Scousepole[MR]> we cant counter it
[16:23] <FranklinFigs[MR]> I think I only had 3?
[16:23] <Kes[MR]> Yup if there are ws flying around for pros and shots shit will get messy
[16:23] <Scousepole[MR]> apart from killing gnagsters that have turned
[16:23] <a-true-soprano[MR]> Open to suggestions Drake[MR]
[16:23] <Zoom[MR]> Given that I'm pretty sure the auth things will be reverted to normal before the week timeframe that was posted, some of this is a bit...whatever the right word is.
[16:23] <Cromwell[MR]> A pro is just asking for the same shot you are trying to avoid Drake
[16:24] <Tetley[MR]> 21:21:17 <@FranklinFigs[MR]> 2nd. someone kills someone they shouldnt we kill them...dont wait for leadership of the other family unless its a questionable occurrence
[16:24] <Tetley[MR]> On this point we have to be careful
[16:24] <Zoom[MR]> Only other thing I had in mind to bring up was if we're setting some type of auth standard protocol
[16:24] <Zoom[MR]> some folks send mails some post threads some do neither
[16:24] <Scousepole[MR]> na
[16:24] <Tetley[MR]> Just yesterday I had someone killed because they appeared to be taking pot shots at sponsoreds
[16:25] <Tetley[MR]> Turns out they were shooting low ranks that were taking pops at CL's
[16:25] <Scousepole[MR]> poor reg
[16:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> right
[16:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> so we are all pretty smart
[16:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> so use critical thinking
[16:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> if my LHm shoots a member of my family
[16:25] <Tetley[MR]> Speak for yourself
[16:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> probably dont shoot my LHM
[16:25] <Tetley[MR]> i r wacktard
[16:25] <FranklinFigs[MR]> lol
[16:25] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> I agree, there may be some collateral damage but these are extraordinary times which should be over shortly
[16:26] <a-true-soprano[MR]> No point in stating the obvious Tetley[MR]
[16:26] <a-true-soprano[MR]> Is there a need for an auth standard Telkin?
[16:26] <a-true-soprano[MR]> I mean, don't send out a mail or thread if you like
[16:27] <a-true-soprano[MR]> but chances are it'll be considered rogue
[16:27] <a-true-soprano[MR]> jokes on you
[16:27] <FranklinFigs[MR]> a-true-soprano[MR] like letting other family leads know you have a guy shooting + three rank and you approve?
[16:28] <Zoom[MR]> Not really a need, was just posing the question
[16:28] <FranklinFigs[MR]> aye, if you are shooting a plus three and I dont approve because its my guy...not sure telling other leaders your doing is wise! lol
[16:28] <Tetley[MR]> I think a mail too all uppers will suffice for now
[16:29] <Tetley[MR]> I mean authed CL's tend to buy forts & rogues don't which is a good indication
[16:29] <FranklinFigs[MR]> ^^^^
[16:29] <PoisonIvy[MR]> As long as we all communicate things will go a lot smoother and we can all work together
[16:30] <Zoom[MR]> Aye like I said, just posing the question - it's pretty common for most of us to spot a real auth from not
[16:30] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> did anyone bring sandwiches?
[16:30] <FranklinFigs[MR]> right? some refreshments? or finger foods?
[16:30] <Ron_Swanson[MR]> absolutely
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