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Declaration of the People Started by: Vintage on Sep 14, '20 00:45

I don't think you know what you want Vintage

each of us is afforded the right to equal advancement regardless of who we know or do not know. Advancement will be  based on merit alone; who you know will no longer be the deciding factor.

I've lost track of how many of my forefather have been killed because of who they knew or who they didn't know. Advancement has never in all living memory been on advancement alone. this is the Mafia, and who you know is often more important than what you know. I've had family killed for being a threat, I've had family killed for being no threat. We've been held back because we were unknown or disliked or not trusted, despite being the highest earner and hardest worker in the crew. This nothing new and it is not a product of the so called Grin/Disorder regime.

That each city aught to  be autonomous from each other city.

Why? Why should it? Alliances are what makes us strong, alliances are what allows us to take down those in power that we disagree with, and you are suggesting that we do away with that? So you end up, like under the Soviet State, with one city holding the most crews and most of the members, and none of the other cities able to stand against them because you say that every city should be autonomous? Our life is based on power, and the person in charge is the person with the biggest gun. If they say jump, you either jump, or you band together and take them down.  This is how it has always been. By working together is how we get things done. It shows how little you know about how this regime works if you think that one or two individuals sat at the very top and dictated to each city what they had to do.

That no outside city official ( Crew leader, or hand) or outside  city leader ( Godfather) have the authority to demand the death of another cities Crew leader or hands.

Again this comes down to who has the strongest gun. You either follow the instructions or you fight. Again this is how it has always been. You Agree, you disagree, or you fight, that is your options. Again this is not how this regime works. You yourself have already stated that taking out a crew or a city is not purging. Apparently, according to you, wars and take downs are not purging, even if they aren't warranted, which many aren't. So what exactly is 'the peoples' definition of purging, cos you ain't stated it in your manifesto.

That all members and associates of this thing of ours be afforded the same equitable opportunity to rise in the ranks of thing of ours.

Again, in all my experiences and those of my forefathers this has never happened. Everyone is not equal, this is not a communist utopia, its the mob, and unfortunately that means that sometimes Billy Joe Jim-Bob who is a complete ass gets the promo and you don't. Its also based on loyalty and an ability to follow the rules set down by your CL. Some folks find that very hard to do, and believe me, if I catch you out in a lie, and you work for me, we'll take a little walk into the desert, before you get a chance to stab me in the back. 

That  it is the obligation of the members and associates  of this thing of ours to over throw any regime that does not abide by  these natural laws of this thing of ours. 

Fine, something we can agree on. That's how this regime came to power, its how the regime before it came to power, and the one before that, and probably all the way back to Anita and beyond. But your 'laws' aren't natural. This isn't a democracy, its a dictatorship, the ones in power make the rules, and you don't have human rights, you don't have a bill of rights, you do what you are told to the best of your ability, or you rise up and try to take by force that what you desire, that there is your only right. However, don't come crying if you fail and you die because you were ratted out by someone you thought was your friend, or you get shot, or you miss your target.

So, as spokesperson for 'the people' can you define what it is that you mean by purging? What exactly you mean by purging, because I'm still at a loss, I thought it was something people with bulimia did. And I know you just ignored my earlier challenge, because it didn't suit your narrative, but have you found one person who was 'purged' under my watch, or Duggee's watch, or Ubercorn's watch or Goldust?

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I don't think you are comprehending what is being said.

Maybe the language is to direct for you. I told them when they asked me to be the spokesperson that I was too direct and to the point for some people. 

Vintage walks away shaking her head, thinking you can either give a man fish and feed him for day or teach him how to fish and he can feed himself. 

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Zek smiles and waves

Bye, and no, you language isn't too direct for me, your language is anything but direct.

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She stops as hears his words just as approached an alleyway entrance. 

So that must be why you avoided the  direct  question.

So Zek Which group are you  in?

The purgers or non -purgers? 

The people want to know, because why?  Your arguments do appear to be supporting it. We all know that the intent of the purgers is to destroy this community, they have already made this declaration. 

Feeling she had nothing more to add to the current  discussion knowing that the person will simply continue to talk in circles she continued down the alleyway thinking about teatime. 

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Why should I answer your question when you refuse to answer mine? Stop trying to deflect from the issue at hand by muddying the water. I think I have made my position very clear. I have challenged you to refute that position, I've challenged you to define your position, and you simply walked away. If you feel that my arguments are supporting purging, and I say feel because you obviously don't think, then that is on you to prove. Innocent until proven guilty my dear. 

Oh and apparently now the purgers, these people who are guilty of a crime that you yourself have now refused to define on two separate occasions, have made their own declaration, one to destroy this community no less. Would you like to quote this declaration to me, because I haven't heard it? Perhaps if you were to answer the questions instead of using obfuscation and smoke and mirrors to hide your ignorance then we could have a proper debate about what you believe is wrong in this world, instead of broad brushstroke accusations that do nothing to define the issues at hand or resolve them equitably. But I don't think that's what you want, you simply want to stir up vitriol and animosity to further your own agenda under the guise of 'the people'.

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