Want to come and join New Orleans?

Reasons why:

1. Calibre of its members

To: LaszloKovacs
From: SzaboBeatz
Sent: Jun 03, '11 21:42
Subject: Hali

U Hungaryian if yes accept my invitation plz if ur not no problem 

Szeva en is magy ar vagyok !

2. Calibre of its Godfather RoRoG

Read from bottom to top

To: Huxley
From: RoRoG
Sent: Jun 03, '11 22:15
Subject: Member's invitation to join New Orleans

I openly encourage it.

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To: RoRoG
From: Huxley
Subject: Member's invitation to join New Orleans

Are you seriously telling me that you are ok with that kind of message being sent out by one of your members?
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To: Huxley
From: RoRoG
Subject: Member's invitation to join New Orleans

More than you've done recently.
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To: RoRoG
From: Huxley
Subject: Member's invitation to join New Orleans

Wow, now you are offering to actually do something. 

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To: Huxley
From: RoRoG
Subject: Member's invitation to join New Orleans

Shit I'll write the mail myself so they can copy and paste it to everyone in the game. Just so you'll quit spamming my mailbox asking how I feel about it.
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To: RoRoG
From: Huxley
Subject: Member's invitation to join New Orleans

Look at the crap, your family is sending out. 

Seriously RoRoG, you want your city known for this? 
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To: Huxley
From: RoRoG
Subject: Member's invitation to join New Orleans

Like you going around having a heart attack every time someone whores you?

Get your head out of your ass.
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To: RoRoG
From: Huxley
Subject: Member's invitation to join New Orleans

Thats just ignorance. 
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To: Huxley
From: RoRoG
Subject: Member's invitation to join New Orleans

Like I give two shits if someone tried to whore you?

Quit bothering me about the subject because I could care less.
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To: RoRoG
From: Huxley
Subject: Member's invitation to join New Orleans

Hey,

So this is the kind of crap your family is sending out to get new members? 

I know you are better than this, so is the crew leader that permits this crap. 

To: LaszloKovacs
From: SzaboBeatz
Sent: Jun 03, '11 21:42
Subject: Hali

U Hungaryian if yes accept my invitation plz if ur not no problem 

Szeva en is magy ar vagyok !

Welcome to New Orleans everyone

SzaboBeatz seems like a champion to me.

Is it racist if they only take Hungarians?

Not fair... I want in

He seems like a genuinely nice guy, and so I feel bad for it being here. However, given all the talk of whoring, I was sent the invite before either message.

Not sure, but have heard there are goulash tastings (is that racist?)

I agree with Chuckle, but only because I am his Prince.

This is the kind of cr*p that is permissible in New Orleans. 

Similar cr*p has already been shown to be sent out of Detroit and St Louis. 

It appears that only the Godfathers of Chicago and now New York seem to keep their families, crews and members in check. 

Less Huxley, definitely less Brutus and considerably more SzaboBeatz.

Less Brutus I agree with. 

Chuckle, you know better than most about the value of free speech, how you choose to exercise yours and how I choose to exercise mine is our own personal choice. 

Whats this I hear? I will say what I want, when I want, to whoever will listen. 

Why are you sharing private mails between other people that have nothing to do with you sir? I do not see that mail being addressed to you, it was addressed to Mr Kovacs. And it was not sent from you.

I see nothing wrong with people sending out mails wanting to talk with and help new members, no matter WHAT their intentions may be. The ONLY time it is actually considered whoring, is when an invite is sent with absolutely no communication whatsoever OR a mail sent saying hey join my family! While that is clearly the case in this private mail between two people that are not you, that isn't the case in all the letters you have shared. While you may personally take offense to receiving mails of recruitment, not everyone that comes here does. Some people appreciate the reachings out. And who cares if the very first letter is a cookie cutter letter. Some people find an ice breaker that works and stick with it.

And surely you did not need to make several different speeches to discuss the same thing? That doesn't make your point anymore valid or invalid. I think we got it with your very first speech that you are peeved. So why are you in the streets whining about it and intentionally setting out to piss people off, instead of bucking up, growing up in this world to a position where you can TEACH people how to handle it in a manner that is more acceptable to your standards???? Because you don't really want to solve the "problem", you don't really want to be a solution. You just want to cause havoc.

Lucky them they had been whored...I haven't been whored for a long time.

Cries at her corner.

hahaha i read the conversation with RoRoG from top to bottom and you know what, i feel more confident in him than ever before! =D

this kinda reminds me of a kid whos trying to bully a kid into tears by saying 'im gonna tell yer mummy! yeh, what you gonna do to stop me huh?... what d'ye mean nothing?! come on! feel bad!!! aww you're no fun im gonna go grass on you anyways!'

=p

I don't think whoring is a problem anymore.  Should it be one?  

When it was banned from the eight cities under the reign of Diemne, the gods made it clear that rules against contacting new members first was negatively effecting our world.  Therefore, even though some are very adamant that it is the root of all evil, it is not an issue that is going to be dealt with further.  The issue with how it is being done, is a training issue that should be addressed by all crew leaders.  New Orleans typically would expect a good bit more depth in any inquires it sent to a prospective member; however, I for one understand difficulty with the language and eagerness to meet others from his homeland. 

ok lets make this brief, i spent enough time shuffling round the streets today.

1. Yes our sponsors are expected to find out more about prospective members.

2. People miss the simple things food from their homeland, drink and of course compatriots.   Someone can be forgiven for wanting a taste of the motherland.

3. People will actively recruit if done properly and train you, and yes, is something you should be grateful for.  It gives you more choice of who does what with whom, and will further   

    develop the longer your in the city to clear your personal biases.

4. Why should the New Orleans GF even reply you, your lucky he was willing to give you his time even if to toy with you.

5. Are some peopel going to attempt to insult and harass others coz they did nothing and expect others too, of course happens post war everytime.

and my final point

points at card numbered 6

you can achieve more from ranking and setting up or working within a family then whining on the street.

Not whining Beachbum. 

Once again, leaders must be held accountable for their member's behavior. These individuals quite clearly thought it was acceptable for them to behave like this. Why do we keep justifying this kind of cr*p, why do we let leaders play ignorant? We have so many crews running around, all filled to the brim with members, what happened to quality over quantity? 

I asked this question earlier, when did our world become about who has the most members? 

If i was going to come to the streets with this... i would have atleast put the conversation in order so we dont have to read it backwards...

Just sayin....

Valid point

New Orleans allows member whoring, is that the final conclusion?