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Welcome to Detroit Started by: Huxley on Jun 04, '11 00:24

Tables, Panda seems to forget that he is a high ranking member of his city and there is an expectation of him to behave as such. 

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Tables, I'm not whining about anything. I'm telling this young man to approach his concern in a different manner. Don't like my cursing? Too bad. It's how I speak.

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Panda, you are running your mouth off without considering how you are being perceived. You are a family leader. Why are you resorting to name calling and threats? 

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Don't like him voicing his opinions? Too bad, it's how he acts.

Seriously, what kind of a rebuttal is that? "Too bad." You're making yourself look 5 years old. And yes, you are whining about the fact that he's taken his issues with the state of the families to the streets, when he has every right to do so.

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I've not threatened you once. I've stated that you are doing as you are because you can't be touched. As for running my mouth, I do not believe it is an unreasonable request to ask you to change your tactic and approach your concern with more That guy tried to whore me! Wah Wah!". I do not care if I am a crew leader. I will say what I wish when I feel it needs to be said. You have dodged every one of my questions and attempts to correct your behaviour and have resulted to attacking my position as a crewleader. That really tells us alot about you, my friend.

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Tables, the streets are for discussions. Not people reciting private conversations and complaining about how bad our society is, while attacking cities and their leaders. If I am not mistaken, freedom of speech applies to those that hold themselves with respect and have respect for those speaking with them. This man has respect for no one and that is extremely obvious.

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Panda, your definition of freedom of speech is flawed. 

Anyone can come to the street and air their opinion, regardless of whether it is wanted or not. 

You are not the street enforcer, you are not the supreme being in this world, and you have no right to tell someone what they can and cannot say or act. 

I owe you no duty, I am not bound by any law of yours. 

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And you have respect for him?!

In your first reply you told him to "shut the hell up" your second you told him to fuck off; all because you disagreed with his methods of flagging up what he sees to be a downfall of the current state of affairs.

If you think that's holding respect for someone, then what the fuck is wrong with you?

And I have lost any scrap of respect for you, so I guess that's me out of this "discussion". 

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Did I say I respect him? No, I don't believe I did. Since this young man appeared on our shores, he has done nothing but insult the leaders of our cities. You feel what he has done is right? If that's so, our world is truly flawed. From the get go, the first speech this man placed in our streets, he insulted a crewleader. When the crewleader attempted to defend his member, they basically told him he was shit and that he shouldn't defend his member. I'm sorry if I do not agree with this man's methods and I will say what I wish in response to his idiocity.

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You are so stupid it hurts.

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Panda, you have wasted a whole afternoon acting without restraint and without consideration of your actions. You are a crew leader. You are expected to lead by example. The reason as to why you felt the need to resort to making threats and showing your temper is beyond me. 

Why not quit whilst you still have a shred of decency and get back to tending to family matters? 

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Really, Huxley? Still ignoring my questions? You guys ask us to step up, to speak in the streets. Then, when we try, you tell us we don't belong. Quite frankly, I am not angry at all, young man. I speak the way I wish to speak and if you can't handle that, it's your problem. If that reflects badly upon me as a crewleader, so be it. At least I have a voice. At least I feel some of our customs need to be upheld and not pushed aside by young punks that believe they can take cheap shots at Crewleaders. You say we should hold ourselves to higher standing? That's basically saying we should let you say what you wish without so much as a second thought. In essence, what you are doing is lowering Crewleaders and attempting to put yourself, a Gangster, above them.

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And Panda, thanks for the MobMails. You have proven yourself to be quite a colorful character with your choice of words and the manner in which you use them is quite exemplary. Impressive for a family head. 

To: Huxley
From: Phreaking_Panda
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You have no right to sling shit in the streets and act as if you're a five year old with no self control. As I stated in the streets, the quality of your approach reflects on you as a person. Fling shit, get shit.

Regards,
Panda

To: Huxley

From: Phreaking_Panda
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The freedom of speech often gets people killed. However, you happen to be hiding behind a status in which you know we can do nothing about. You are not attempting to get a message across, you are bitching and whining.

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Impressive how you can send me private messages and recite them in the streets, continuing to ignore my questions. Do you think it bothers me that people know how I speak to someone in a private mail that I openly disdain in the streets? Care to recite some of you own, which happen to be the same exact things you've been saying in the streets for two days? You've not attempted to have a discussion once, yet you feel you deserve the respect of a Crewleader. I'm sorry, I'm not that Crewleader.

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Impressive Panda that you have taken this all so personally. That you felt the need to run your mouth for something that had nothing to do with you at all. 

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Well well. Perhaps the quality of a sponsor directly reflects the quality of the crewleader...or even the city!

http://mafiareturns.com/news/uprofile.php?id=225901

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Say what you want but its fact that Detroit, New Orleans and St Louis engage in member whoring. Why you are seeking to justify their actions is beyond me? 

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I am not seeking to justify their actions and have not stated once that I am, or defended them. I have stated that you should not be insulting Crewleaders and that you should propose something to change the current situation if it irks you so bad. However, as I know you will not do that, I am finished. Good luck with your cause.

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Panda, you are not debating anything. You are simply trash talking under the delusional belief that as a crew leader you can say what you want and treat people however you like. 

This is not the case. You have no more right that any of us to express an opinion on the streets. 

You have not earned that right, and you never will. 

Your bully tactics are doing you no favors. 

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