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RHM View/Use NPMs Started by: Crawford on Jun 17, '11 00:31

Simplest suggestion ever. Generally, RHMs can do every single thing their CL can do other than wear a super fancy suit. Why should handling NPMs be any different?

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Only if you agree to have your account renamed to "Kates."

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I agree.

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I assume you agree with the proposal and not with Sprinklers. Agreeing with Sprinklers would just be silly, GRHS.

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I second Sprinklers motion.

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I agree with Crawford, though i'll also agree with Sprinklers for the sake of it.

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I believe this is a viable joint proposal.

Crawford renamed to Kates and RHM can deal with NPMs. Seems solid to me.

~C~

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I have thought about this a few times..
Trying to view the NPM page and not being able to, i thought it would sometimes be beneficial for an RHM to view and manage the NPM's if the CL is away for any reason or something alike..

I like this idea..
~Guido

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Sprinklers does raise a very valid suggestion that should be implemented immediately.

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I think this is a good idea as I can't tell you how many times as an RHM people have asked for WS's and there have been NPM's online from my family but the CL was not around, what if the NPM caught the WS?

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Is there any reason this SHOULDN'T be implemented?

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I agree with this suggestion but since you ask for a reason it shouldn't be implemented then I shall provide you with one. Right hand mans shouldn't have total control cause then it creates lazy cls who will just let their RHM do all the work while they do nothing. Making it that the Cl has the only control over certain things forces them to stay in the game as it were, rather than being an IAish prick and making their RHM do everything. Also this stop some RHMs thinking "hey I'm doing everything i might as well be in charge" if they don't have control over certain things it keeps the CL above the RHM but if the RHM could do everything a CL could do then really beside the bold and slanty there wouldn't be a difference which there should be. Should that difference be the control over NPMs no I don't think so but yea there should be more stronger differences.

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Ive already suggested this to Izzy. He it isn't going to happen. The whole reason for the CL to have access to the NPM's only.. Is so the CL has 'Some' responsibility that the RHM doesn't have.

Seems fair to me afterall.. its about time we had something that our RH can't do.

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Sorry but the Right-Hand is an extension of the crewleader themselves. A Right-Hand SHOULD be able to do *everything* the crewleader can do. The Crewleader is still the ultimate power in the crew, noone else in the crew can even come close to that power short of roguing so Crewleaders are still in fact having a use.

The Right-Hand should be someone implicitly trusted with everything the Crewleader is, that is kind of the point of the position. If you want Crewleaders to stay involved and be very active then remove Right-Hands and Left-Hands altogether. In fact if I recall correctly the 'Left-Hand' position was introduced to take a workload AWAY from the Crewleader... I am all for this suggestion. If not the full capabilities then at least give the RH the ability to view the NPMs personals as the Crewleader can. Even as Crewleader people have lives and cannot physically be here 24 hours a day, which is why we have Right-Hands in the first place - to take the workload when we're not here. Limiting them by not allowing them to see everything the CL can see does not allow them to do a completely effective job.

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how about giving them limited access, say, to the alerts of the NPMs. as someone pointed out, if the CL is offline, the WS would be useful. that said, aside from that one thing, i agree that, dispite the fact of what the RH actually is, there neds to be a thing or two that only the CL can do.

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that said, i was neer a fan of NPMs in the first place.

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I have to agree with DeadlySin on this one, an RHM is an extension of the leader and the admins recognise to the point that if an RHM does something that warrents a dishonerable discharge the leader also gets the same fate even if they are unaware.

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I really just wanted to bump this topic back up becuase i think it would be a useful tool if it were implemented. I would like to be able to see if and NPM has collected an important WS. Leaders can not be on all the time, and as it was stated before RHM are extensions of the Crew Leader. I don't want to be able to hire them, but just to be able to see their personals.

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