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| Da Back Stabing and Lie's Of Saint Louis/ BGJ | Started by: Sonny-Corinthos on Jul 22, '11 05:06 |
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Sonny Stands Up..With The Guvnor And Big Lucy Each at His Side..
Now No matter
What Happens..
Athyna stood Up for what was right. aswell will I.
Im Not Afriad and i will a a Other's...
The Guvnor Stands Up behind him,
Lucy Stands Up
Are's ,Crex, Loner..ect all stands up in respect for Athyna. Rip. |
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The_Mold listens to Sonny's speech and finds what he says truthful. Athyna was one of the best boss's he has ever known, she was a good boss. Respectful, truthful, would listen to her members and really help them in their needs. She was a example of a great leader. She was a Crew Leader, and had to make decisions. And paid the high prices for them. I will miss her greatly! |
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| Reply by: The_Mold at Jul 22, '11 05:21 | |
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After a short while The_Mold cleared his thoughs and added.... I am with Athyna ALL the way. Because i truly believe that a CL's decision about her family should be respected and i would be lying to myself if i did stand with my beliefs. The Godfather of St-Louis clearly made the mistake of shooting such a wonderful person and leader. I stand by Athyna along with Sonny and the others! |
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| Reply by: The_Mold at Jul 22, '11 05:35 | |
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Geno believes the same. Don Athyna-Grinz, was one of a dkind and will be missed. Geno Clears Meanly at jake |
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| Reply by: GenoPazzini at Jul 22, '11 06:10 | |
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*Lucy stubs out her cigarette and leans againts the wall as she listens to her 'former' family members give their point of vue. After a brief moment,she pushes herself off and heads towards the gentlemen shaking her head...* |
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| Reply by: Big_Lucy at Jul 22, '11 06:40 | |
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Of course they are dead, they insulted the Godfather. If they had such a problem with what had happened they were high enough ranked to sit down, shut up, rack up the kills and do something about it. Instead they chose to stand up, open their mouth and paint a huge red bullseye on their back. Their fault... and probably yours too Lucy.
I'm not for one moment suggesting what has gone down in SL is right or just because I have no idea what happened and hearing it from someone who's leader has just died is not exactly getting both sides of the story for me to make an informed decision, I'm just astounded at your surprise that Sonny and Mold are now dead. If you insult a GF, you will die. If you insult a GF's RHM, you will die. These are things that should have been drilled into you by your now former leader. Maybe she wasn't all she was cracked up to be if her former members are out here spouting their mouths off, huh? |
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| Reply by: NuclearSugarCube at Jul 22, '11 10:36 | |
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Wouldn't she be a bad CL if members of her crew felt she was wronged and noone came out to speak on her behalf? However the manner this was done was not the right one. Perhaps this should have been handled in private. Disrespecting a GodFather is never a good idea. And what would be the point of racking up kills? To kill the GodFather? What would be the point of that? So that they can be killed damn near immediately afterwards? In my opinion they should have suffered in silence, not publicly in the streets. |
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| Reply by: Johnjo at Jul 22, '11 11:09 | |
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She created a Whole new Breed of Mobsters, Bring back the Old ways. Loyalty, Honor, Respect, And before All Family..
working on the assumption when you wrote 'treat' you meant 'threat' wouldnt it be bad leadership if BGJ didnt react accordingly to a 'threat to his empire?'.
my grandfather worked with BGJ and his journal paint him as a good man who enjoys seeing his members succeed,i cant believe a man like that would act without just cause.
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| Reply by: Wade_Wilson_Jnr at Jul 22, '11 12:55 | |
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Connor the Pikey rolls up on his bicycle and jumps off pointing at the deceased members of Atyhna's family.
Wots tha zombie doin out of ye crates. Go on back to the underwold. Ein this life, regardless of wot mai be wrong ein yer eyes. Yer godfather ish always right.
Connor throws some tin cans in the air and rides off on his bike |
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| Reply by: Connor_MacManus at Jul 22, '11 13:11 | |
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*tears* its hard to find leading woman.
and she was pure at heart. wasnt she the only one giving candies around?
i dont know if so much epople of her crew and city stands up for her that proof something, that she wasnt or couldnt be that bad.
as far as traitor... well karma hits them back soon or later :) |
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| Reply by: BitterSweetLife at Jul 22, '11 16:58 | |
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I normally avoid discussions like this, but with rogues and such popping up, i felt like throwing my two cents in. |
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| Reply by: -Premeir at Jul 22, '11 18:43 | |
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Wise Words from a decent man. I agree with GodFather Preimeir. The decisions of a GF are final and even if you have a problem with it...you should do your best to get over it. If not there are other, less desirable methods of dealing with your dissatisfaction |
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| Reply by: Johnjo at Jul 22, '11 19:11 | |
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I'm old school. I do whatever the boss of the family tells me to do and I'd be honored to die for him.
In the history of Our Thing, however, if you look at Luciano in '29, or Reese a few years ago, there are times the golden rule was violated, and in retrospect, most everyone is happy with the results. If one feels obligated to side with an underdog for what they believe in, that can be admirable under the right circumstances. However, that's when it's time to use guns. Song and dance on the street is unproductive, unbecoming, and makes your pending death for nothing.
This peaceful, non-violent civil disobedience I'm seeing lately is not LCN. |
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| Reply by: Mikey at Jul 22, '11 19:50 | |
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Tony puts out his cigarette and steps forward.
This is the kind of trash in the streets that makes me sick. Your Crew Leader screwed up. Some people from the crew screwed up. They paid for it and it's over. Although things such as this never seem to be over or ever go away.
Now I thought about staying out of this and not opening my mouth but I've been quiet in the streets for way too long now. I came back from a trip today to find that this had all happened. Talked to a few people and heard what had happened. I believe what has been done was the right move and I'll stick to that opinion to the day I die. JewishJake did what a sensible man would do in his position. He went to the Godfather and joined his direct family and informed him of what exactly happened. As what I've heard. The Godfather probably knew of some things already but I don't know the full details on how he got involved.
But I know from past encounters with Athyna that she IS a good person. She has made mistakes that screwed up her having a good thing. But I won't come out here to drag her name through the dirt. The dead deserve the same respect as the living.
Now coming out here and trying to drag the names of JewishJake and -BostonGeorgJung through the dirt is just making you and your passed crew leader look even worse. They did what they did for the betterment and safety of the city. They did what they thought was right. And that is the only reason a Godfather needs when it comes to making decisions that affect his city.
So any of you who cared for Athyna or worked for her. Show your respect by paying them at her funeral. Keep the disrespect out of the streets for two men who work hard for their city. The best thing you could've done for Athyna was to keep your mouths shut and either keep working with St. Louis, the city you pledged your loyalty to or to let yourself fall into a deep sleep and hope that your kin does great things.
It sickens me that we had people such as yourself in our city that will drag peoples names through the dirt who don't deserve it. Hope it was all worth it.
But R.I.P all the same. |
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| Reply by: TonyCastelli at Jul 22, '11 22:44 | |
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I would totally agree with that, actually I am surprised any of them are still alive to be continuing their dribbles. The Plumber news is so much more entertaining! |
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| Reply by: Emerald at Jul 22, '11 22:46 | |
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My father worked under -BostonGeorgeJung and did so for a very long time in New Orleans. Eventually working in his direct GF family when it came to the move to St. Louis. After retiring and then coming on to these shores. My father knew -BGJ as an honest man who loved his family just as he did his city. He was firm but extremely fair and did what was necessary not for him but for the love of his city. Now, I personally don't know what Athyna did to get herself killed. But I believe there's a lot more to what Sonny has said. Athyna was one of the best people you could ever meet. Known her for a loong, loong time aswell and also worked under her previous to this incident. However, this doesn't mean that she didn't fuck up somewhere along the way. Maybe, she did so without meaning to. But if she did, she did. And her being a CL meant that -BGJ had to take a lot of measures in to account and it ended up with him taking her life. Rest in Peace Athyna.
Now onto Sonny. Sonny, this surprised me mate. To be honest I never knew you had it in you. You've made a lot of accusations and I won't accept neither deny it for I don't know what has happened until I find it. You were a great man and my sub-crew leader and we had fun with our one comp. LOL! But other than that I never knew you. However, when we started speaking to each-other it turns out you were a good guy who loved his city. Now im not so sure that you have those same feelings. I look forward to working under my new Crew-leader who was also a long-time friend. And I will continue to serve my city as I once did with my past CL.
Listening to the different opinions of people from all over the eight cities has been interesting to read. Especially godfather premier's which to be honest, made my re-think my feelings. Ofcourse, I was angry that I lost my CL and also a good-friend. However, if it was for the "good of the city" then I am forced to comply with my Godfather's decision even it was wrong. Not saying that it was. Seeing as I don't know what happened. LOL.
But anyways, i've said my piece. or "two-cents" as some would say. And look forward, to reading more of your opinions.
R.I.P. to those that have fallen.
~Castro |
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| Reply by: Castro at Jul 22, '11 23:07 | |
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The_Civilian listened carefully to what godfather -Premier had to say about this topic. And after thinking about it a while, the wise words of the godfather made him think. And realises that he must serve his city before serving his Crew Leader. He hopes to become a great man someday and if he gets his chance, he will serve his city and follow his godfathers decisions. People do mistakes, the important thing is to learn from them. As his father said to him while dying in his arms... wrong move. His father regretted it in his last breath, but what is done is done. The only i can do... is move forward and become a great man. |
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| Reply by: The_Civilian at Jul 23, '11 13:25 | |
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-BostonGeorgeJung did what was best for his city, you people can say whatver you want, but this will turn out better for St.louis in the long run. |
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| Reply by: Magneto_ at Jul 23, '11 16:32 | |
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I have to agree with Magneto here, it must of been a unbelieveably tough decision to remove one of his CLs, i dont know the real reason behind this but im sure he was doing the right thing. |
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| Reply by: Andrei_Dempsey at Jul 24, '11 14:38 | |
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