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Da Back Stabing and Lie's Of Saint Louis/ BGJ Started by: Sonny-Corinthos on Jul 22, '11 05:06

 Sonny Stands Up..With The Guvnor And Big Lucy Each at His Side..

Hello, Im Sonny Corinthos.. I am was and will always will be a Proud Member of the Other's Family,
I am a Boss, and was a captian of a Subcrew .. Athyna Was More than Just a Boss To me..

Looks At the Godfathers and CL's of Each City.. Then Looks down at the end of the Table.. Looking Directly at BGJ, and Jake at his Side.


Now as You Know.. Athyna grinz was Killed today...
But what you Dont Know is the truth of behind why she was Killed.. You was told in why she was killed is because she was Clausing Problems..
she was killed is because she was clausing problems.. not really Truth.
 
Athyna Was a Nice honest and Respectful woman, Didnt have a bad bone in her body,
She follewed the Rules ,Rised up to power. and Earned a family. But within this Family..
She created a Whole new Breed of Mobsters, Bring back the Old ways. Loyalty, Honor, Respect, And before All Family..
She was Loved and respected by many. and because of this She became a treat.. To BGJ, and this so called empire Of his. and not even trying.. as I said this lady didnt have a bad bone in her body.. she put her city and family before al else...

However the Reason behide her death was Because Of one person, and one person only..

Pointed down at Jake..

This Man..
He was a Trusted Rhm of hers.

Guvnor yells out- You betrayed her, SHE NEVER DID ANYTHING..

Sonny- Bro, I know, But let me....

Guvnor Sits back down..


Sonny- Jake Sold more than 26 Mill From the Other's Family.. and ran to BGJ for protection..

So when Athyna Talked to BGJ about it.. Like a Reall Godfather will put a bullet in Jakes head and stand up for one of his city CL's .. But what he do..
He Took jake Side, and Killed Athyna,  when She didnt even do nothing wrong.. but Stand up for this Family.. She came to him, and He Killed her..

Now Godfather's and Don's at this Meeting today, I ask you, to see this from Athyna point of view, If Someone sold from you, who u trusted, ..what do u do, u go to your Godfather about it.. and Ask to put a bullet in this Guys head for dispecting and betray you and your family.. and u would exspect your godfather to behind you ..cause after all You is One of his Cl.. But you wouldnt exspect him to kill you for standing up for whats right.. like BGJ did Athyna..
.. Now i Dont exspect you guys To do anything.. i just anted you all to know the Truth..and That the Legacy and honor Athyna Grinz left behind would Never before forgotten.

Now No matter

What Happens..

Athyna stood Up for what was right. aswell will I.

Im Not Afriad and i will a a Other's...

The Guvnor Stands Up behind him,

Lucy Stands Up

Are's ,Crex, Loner..ect all stands up in respect for Athyna. Rip.

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The_Mold listens to Sonny's speech and finds what he says truthful. Athyna was one of the best boss's he has ever known, she was a good boss. Respectful, truthful, would listen to her members and really help them in their needs. She was a example of a great leader. She was a Crew Leader, and had to make decisions. And paid the high prices for them. I will miss her greatly!

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After a short while The_Mold cleared his thoughs and added.... I am with Athyna ALL the way. Because i truly believe that a CL's decision about her family should be respected and i would be lying to myself if i did stand with my beliefs. The Godfather of St-Louis clearly made the mistake of shooting such a wonderful person and leader. I stand by Athyna along with Sonny and the others!

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Geno  believes the same. Don Athyna-Grinz,  was one of a dkind and will be missed. Geno Clears Meanly at jake

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*Lucy stubs out her cigarette and leans againts the wall as she listens to her 'former' family members give their point of vue. After a brief moment,she pushes herself off and heads towards the gentlemen shaking her head...*

After hearing about Athyna, I approached a SL RHM and asked what had happened. You need to understand how upset I was given a bullshit reply....'she was internally removed'. Of course, this insulted me...having gone through interviews by several asteemed members to become Made Man, then climbing up to Capo...you'd think I was trust worthy enough to be given a better reply than that. I had to find out by friends who had the balls to talk.

Sonny-Corinthos --- DEAD

The_Mold ---------- DEAD

Big_Lucy ---------- ????

Nope, not loving SL right now!

Oh...the Godfather is wrong!

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Of course they are dead, they insulted the Godfather. If they had such a problem with what had happened they were high enough ranked to sit down, shut up, rack up the kills and do something about it. Instead they chose to stand up, open their mouth and paint a huge red bullseye on their back. Their fault... and probably yours too Lucy.

I'm not for one moment suggesting what has gone down in SL is right or just because I have no idea what happened and hearing it from someone who's leader has just died is not exactly getting both sides of the story for me to make an informed decision, I'm just astounded at your surprise that Sonny and Mold are now dead. If you insult a GF, you will die. If you insult a GF's RHM, you will die. These are things that should have been drilled into you by your now former leader. Maybe she wasn't all she was cracked up to be if her former members are out here spouting their mouths off, huh?

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Wouldn't she be a bad CL if members of her crew felt she was wronged and noone came out to speak on her behalf? However the manner this was done was not the right one. Perhaps this should have been handled in private. Disrespecting a GodFather is never a good idea. And what would be the point of racking up kills? To kill the GodFather? What would be the point of that? So that they can be killed damn near immediately afterwards? In my opinion they should have suffered in silence, not publicly in the streets.

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She created a Whole new Breed of Mobsters, Bring back the Old ways. Loyalty, Honor, Respect, And before All Family..
She was Loved and respected by many. and because of this She became a treat.. To BGJ, and this so called empire Of his.

 

 

working on the assumption when you wrote 'treat' you meant 'threat' wouldnt it be bad leadership if BGJ didnt react accordingly to a 'threat to his empire?'.

 

my grandfather worked with BGJ and his journal paint him as a good man who enjoys seeing his members succeed,i cant believe a man like that would act without just cause.

 

 

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Connor the Pikey rolls up on his bicycle and jumps off pointing at the deceased members of Atyhna's family. 

Wots tha zombie doin out of ye crates. Go on back to the underwold. Ein this life, regardless of wot mai be wrong ein yer eyes. Yer godfather ish always right. 

Connor throws some tin cans in the air and rides off on his bike

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*tears* its hard to find leading woman.

 

and she was pure at heart. wasnt she the only one giving candies around?

i dont know if so much epople of her crew and city stands up for her that proof something, that she wasnt or couldnt be that bad.

 

as far as traitor... well karma hits them back soon or later :)

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I normally avoid discussions like this, but with rogues and such popping up, i felt like throwing my two cents in.

I know in New York, when you join any of my leaders, you join for the betterment of the city, for the life of the city, you may be joining my captain, my underboss, or even myself, but you still join for the city, not the leader.

When you sign up with us in New York, your pledge is to the city, not to the leader, because we all work together as a whole to succded our goals, we are one big family in New York.

Why is this important? You may be mad at your Godfather, you may not like your leader, you may not agree with a desccion that has been made, but the GodFather is the City, they make the rules, they have final say. I consult all my leaders when making descions and use their advice and input to make the descion, but in the end the Godfather makes the final call when it comes to the city.

The Godfather and the city are the same thing, you sign up to serve him and the city.

So because your Godfather made a descion you do not like, you do not rogue or disagree, you say Yes Godfather and accept his descion.

I've made descions my leaders didn't like, but they knew i did it for the city, and knew it was my call to make.

To come out here and be upset that your Godfather made a descion, just means you wern't serving the city, you were serving for yourself.

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Wise Words from a decent man. I agree with GodFather Preimeir. The decisions of a GF are final and even if you have a problem with it...you should do your best to get over it. If not there are other, less desirable methods of dealing with your dissatisfaction

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I'm old school.  I do whatever the boss of the family tells me to do and I'd be honored to die for him. 

In the history of Our Thing, however, if you look at Luciano in '29, or Reese a few years ago, there are times the golden rule was violated, and in retrospect, most everyone is happy with the results.  If one feels obligated to side with an underdog for what they believe in, that can be admirable under the right circumstances.  However, that's when it's time to use guns.  Song and dance on the street is unproductive, unbecoming, and makes your pending death for nothing. 

This peaceful, non-violent civil disobedience I'm seeing lately is not LCN. 

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Tony puts out his cigarette and steps forward.

This is the kind of trash in the streets that makes me sick. Your Crew Leader screwed up. Some people from the crew screwed up. They paid for it and it's over. Although things such as this never seem to be over or ever go away. 

Now I thought about staying out of this and not opening my mouth but I've been quiet in the streets for way too long now. I came back from a trip today to find that this had all happened. Talked to a few people and heard what had happened. I believe what has been done was the right move and I'll stick to that opinion to the day I die. JewishJake did what a sensible man would do in his position. He went to the Godfather and joined his direct family and informed him of what exactly happened. As what I've heard. The Godfather probably knew of some things already but I don't know the full details on how he got involved. 

But I know from past encounters with Athyna that she IS a good person. She has made mistakes that screwed up her having a good thing. But I won't come out here to drag her name through the dirt. The dead deserve the same respect as the living. 

Now coming out here and trying to drag the names of JewishJake and -BostonGeorgJung through the dirt is just making you and your passed crew leader look even worse. They did what they did for the betterment and safety of the city. They did what they thought was right. And that is the only reason a Godfather needs when it comes to making decisions that affect his city.

So any of you who cared for Athyna or worked for her. Show your respect by paying them at her funeral. Keep the disrespect out of the streets for two men who work hard for their city. The best thing you could've done for Athyna was to keep your mouths shut and either keep working with St. Louis, the city you pledged your loyalty to or to let yourself fall into a deep sleep and hope that your kin does great things.

It sickens me that we had people such as yourself in our city that will drag peoples names through the dirt who don't deserve it. Hope it was all worth it.

But R.I.P all the same. 

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I would totally agree with that, actually I am surprised any of them are still alive to be continuing their dribbles. The Plumber news is so much more entertaining!

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My father worked under -BostonGeorgeJung and did so for a very long time in New Orleans. Eventually working in his direct  GF family when it came to the move to St. Louis. After retiring and then coming on to these shores. My father knew -BGJ as an honest man who loved his family just as he did his city. He was firm but extremely fair and did what was necessary not for him but for the love of his city. Now, I personally don't know what Athyna did to get herself killed. But I believe there's a lot more to what Sonny has said. Athyna was one of the best people you could ever meet. Known her for a loong, loong time aswell and also worked under her previous to this incident. However, this doesn't mean that she didn't fuck up somewhere along the way. Maybe, she did so without meaning to. But if she did, she did. And her being a CL meant that -BGJ had to take a lot of measures in to account and it ended up with him taking her life. Rest in Peace Athyna.

Now onto Sonny. Sonny, this surprised me mate. To be honest I never knew you had it in you. You've made a lot of accusations and I won't accept neither deny it for I don't know what has happened until I find it. You were a great man and my sub-crew leader and we had fun with our one comp. LOL! But other than that I never knew you. However, when we started speaking to each-other it turns out you were a good guy who loved his city. Now im not so sure that you have those same feelings. I look forward to working under my new Crew-leader who was also a long-time friend. And I will continue to serve my city as I once did with my past CL. 

Listening to the different opinions of people from all over the eight cities has been interesting to read. Especially godfather premier's which to be honest, made my re-think my feelings. Ofcourse, I was angry that I lost my CL and also a good-friend. However, if it was for the "good of the city" then I am forced to comply with my Godfather's decision even it was wrong. Not saying that it was. Seeing as I don't know what happened. LOL. 

But anyways, i've said my piece. or "two-cents" as some would say. And look forward, to reading more of your opinions.

R.I.P. to those that have fallen.

~Castro

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The_Civilian listened carefully to what godfather -Premier had to say about this topic. And after thinking about it a while, the wise words of the godfather made him think. And realises that he must serve his city before serving his Crew Leader. He hopes to become a great man someday and if he gets his chance, he will serve his city and follow his godfathers decisions. People do mistakes, the important thing is to learn from them. As his father said to him while dying in his arms... wrong move. His father regretted it in his last breath, but what is done is done. The only i can do... is move forward and become a great man.

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-BostonGeorgeJung did what was best for his city, you people can say whatver you want, but this will turn out better for St.louis in the long run.

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I have to agree with Magneto here, it must of been a unbelieveably tough decision to remove one of his CLs, i dont know the real reason behind this but im sure he was doing the right thing.

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