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Ranking - let's fix it! Started by: Thor on Sep 25, '11 09:27

I would like to make a simple suggestion to amend the minimum time for ranking. Nowadays it is way too easy to live a long account life, hence making it piss easy to rank up. With it now been all so easy to succeed in this game why not make it harder and longer to rank up? Under .org account life expectancy was maybe a few weeks yet minimum times for ranking were much longer than MR, where account account life expectancy is many months. It just doesn't make sense imo. :/

Here are the current min rank timings:

Civilian - Starting rank

Petty Thief - Achieved after doing a few crimes

Thug - 12 hours or on joining a family

Gangster - 1 day

Goomba - 2 days

Earner - 5 days

Wise Guy - 8 days

Made Man - 11 days

Capo - 14 days

Boss - 17 days

Consigliere - 20 days

Don - 40 days

Godfather - 120

Here are my suggested account timings:

Civilian - Starting rank

Petty Thief - 12 hours

Thug - 1 day

Gangster - 2 days

Goomba - 5 days

Earner - 10 days

Wise Guy - 15 days

Made Man - 20 days

Capo - 25 days

Boss - 30 days

Consigliere - 40 days

Don - 60 days

Godfather - 6 months

Rank has lost it's meaning, before promotion at Made Man+ had to be earned, people had to work hard, they were set challenges and put through ceremonies to become a 'proper' member of the family. That honour and dignity has long gone, rank means fuck all now, i have been in a crew where i have been promoted and didn't even know about it until i checked my profile for something. Promotions are handed out without a care in the world, thinking about it we may as well make Made + promos automatic!

I would like to see XP for attaining the ranks Made Man - Don be increased by at least 50%. I would love to see meaning being bought back into ranking. It would be nice too see people earning their rewards.

Lets bring at least a little bit of respect back into the game. Please.

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Absolutely love this suggestion. Except for the Thug/Gangster ones, I think those should stay how they are now.

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The promos without notice and handling out promos like candy is a issue with the crewleaders, not the game. Maybe the crewleaders who do this need to think more about what they're doing before they just click the button.

 

But I do like the long to reach idea on each rank, with some more XP required. With most of us living six months to a year in some cases, having to still work towards getting higher ranks would be a welcome change.

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Extending the amount of time doesn't really influence how much a rank is 'earned' it's all based on the CLs decision.

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Considering the longer account lifespans and the widespread use of demoting to add BGs, I agree that ranking times should be modified.

While it's up to individual crewleaders to really give each rank meaning, it's also true that working harder for each rank increases the inherent value of it. I also understand that the game administrators want to retain new players, as when new players get promoted and see themselves moving up the ranks they are more likely to stay.

My proposal would be to keep the same times we currently have for everything up to Wise Guy, and then substantially raise the minimum time required for Made Man and all ranks above.

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i have to disagree with this. my reason is simple. i do not have an enormous amount fo time to play. if you slow down the ranking, it plays to the people who have 14 horus a day, and screws people like myself.

i would go so far as to say that this change would in fact hurt hte game.

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That or maybe it shouldn't be based on a time system but more of a XP system... If someone sits on their butt for 6 months without any petties, drug deals, or felonies, should they really have the same oppurtunity as someone who has 40 units at 15 days alive, 300 felonies, and more than a thousand petties?

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Rank is a mixture of required XP, and days on the site. You have to reach the required XP to be able to be promoted, you just cant sit on your hands for 45 days and get promoted to Don without having done anything.

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I don't think the ranking system itself is a particular problem.

Unfortunately, rank has never had any meaning unless the ruling powers communally decide that it has. On .org, just as many unworthy and idiotic people got Made Man+ as they do here, they just died quickly and had less time to demonstrate their stupidity. The problem in this regard is not with the system itself, because the leaders all have to give the green light to anyone on a promotion after Wise Guy. The problem is with the leaders and the players.

If players are prepared to accept sitting at Wise Guy until their bosses think they have made it and leaders are prepared to wait until people have made it until they reach an acceptable level, then the problem goes away. If you increased the ranking minimum times, but didn't address the attitude of the players, then it would just end up punishing those people who do conform to a certain standard, by making them take longer to reach the higher ranks.

~C~

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Rankings from Made Man+ are solely up to that Crew leader. Not all Families do it the same. I know when I was promoted I had to go through a lot, I earned it and it wasn't just handed to me.

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