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| Bed Time Stories are for Kids | Started by: CharlieBaltimore on Apr 29, '08 16:44 |
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Alright...so a few days ago Deviant came to the streets in an effort to get things there to pick up. Good on him! look the streets have picked up and how wonderful. I do have something I would like to say, of course this is merely an opinion, so those of you that are emotional, please put it in check. I have no intention of disrespecting anyone.
As you can see he (Deviant) is rewarding people for making an effort to speak on our streets. Some of you might agree that bribing people to speak shouldn't have to be done...unfortunately it appears to be necessary, since the speech, the streets have become way more active. Again, I don't want to insult anyone's intelligence, as I am sure Deviant will use the necessary discretion upon awarding those that have earned it. I guess its time to get to the point, I've beat all the way around this bush. When I hear someone say "Go speak in the streets" never once does it come to my mind that I should go to the bench on the corner, pull out my bed time story book and start reading. Maybe I'm wrong, no, no I'm not wrong as this is my opinion. Story time isn't, to me, what makes the streets hop. One story every day with 100 people listening and 3 people responding, isn't my idea of "active streets". I did get to listening to another speech that I thought was in the same mind frame as me...until this individual commended story time. I don't get it, I mean I guess its the criminal in me...you know I am supposed to be a hard ass, but I'm not into story time. Now don't get me wrong, I love stories...but its usually me and some other salty mafioso's at Tony's Italian restaurant way in the back talking about how they did things in the good old days...not so much about some guy on the corner acting out a scene from MacBeth. To me, an active street means an active discussion, a debate....I'll even get with the story swapping with the guys outside the barber shop. Now, I'm not trying to imply that all those activities are like this, there are some others that don't fit into this category. To those people I say well done, to the others I hope story time doesn't get rewarded. I would like to volunteer myself to be on the board of folks that decide who gets this money, and not be in the contest myself...I will even give some of my own cash to help the cause. If I am not welcome on the staff, that's okay. I just hope my speech has turned a few heads. ~cb |
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| Quite obviously, I'm not competing for Deviant's cash. I'm just doing what I do, what I've always done. Premeir is just doing what he's always done. Some of us tell stories. It's what we do. We were doing it before Deviant offered cash, we'll be doing it afterwards. | |
| Reply by: Mr_47 at Apr 29, '08 17:02 | |
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Its not really about this contest sir, I just used that as an avenue to speak my mind. again I would like to reiterate that I enjoy reading stories, I just don't think that stories get the streets 'active' they make them fun to look at and interesting to listen too. I only have an issue with the fact that they don't spawn more action. i guess controversial speeches do that... that can be good and bad i guess |
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| Reply by: CharlieBaltimore at Apr 29, '08 17:23 | |
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| Are you suggesting controversy for the sake of controversy? | |
| Reply by: Carlitos at Apr 30, '08 01:23 | |
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Some might argue Charlie that, given the previous state of the streets, any increase in activity should be not only welcomed but applauded. However, I can see your point. A street full of nothing but stories does tend to limit the amount of input. Generally with recitations of stories there's not much more to add than the odd "good job" or a related joke. On the other hand, a good old fashioned yarn is far less likely to earn someone a trip to the bottom of the ocean y'know? Optimally, I believe we should have a healthy mixture of tales, debates, and announcements from the crewleaders. It seems we are moving towards that ideal. Let's give it a chance eh? |
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| Reply by: Mr_Rogers_Lovechild at Apr 30, '08 02:57 | |
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I'm in two minds. I agree with Mr Rogers, we should certainly give it time. However I also agree with Charlie. I'm not one for sitting here reading a long winded story, but then again there is the odd occasion where I feel the 7/11 deserves a break and I need to occupy myself somehow. I would prefer to see some healthy debates fill these streets once again, I myself attempted to start one, but alas only a few persons wished to speak on the subject. Who knows, maybe the way of the story teller will allow others to gain the confidence to come back to the streets and in the end liven them up. I guess we shall just have to stick around and see. |
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| Reply by: Yourmaw at Apr 30, '08 05:28 | |
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I absolutely love the stories! They are well written and fit in nicely with our way of life here. I wouldn't want them not to be here even if others write along the lines you are looking for Charlie. If the story ends in some kind of moral dilemna for a charcter or portrays some kind of lesson at the end about the way a mafioso should or shouldn't act that would be a bonus but certainly not needed. Perhaps though if it did it should be considered for the type of reward you speak of. I know these writers aren't doing it for the reward but if it just so happens to hit in the same category it should be looked at. I say keep up the good work regardless. |
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| Reply by: RedBull at Apr 30, '08 08:30 | |
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| Charlie, looks like you've started the debate you wanted. I'm one for the stories. Here I am, entertain me. The debates, eh, it depends. I find that there are only so many points to be made and there are only so many debates I can handle and/or make smartass remarks about. What is honor? What is power? What is love? (Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.) | |
| Reply by: Mr_47 at Apr 30, '08 09:28 | |
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once again, I feel that people are missing my point. I'll make it simple: 1) I like stories 2) I don't dislike stories 3) stories unfortunately don't encourage "activity" (unless like Redbull said there might be a moral issue) 4) my suggestion for story tellers is to set up a venue to allow someone else to tell one of their stories. 5) Debates are fun for those that are passionate about the subject. 6) If I wanted controversial I would have said something controversial. 7) This speech all based upon Deviants speech. |
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| Reply by: CharlieBaltimore at Apr 30, '08 15:36 | |
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I like Bed Time Stories!!! Especially, THE WIZARD OF OZ. |
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| Reply by: Tinman at May 02, '08 18:23 | |
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Dorothy is a young girl who lives on a Kansas farm with her Uncle Henry, Aunt Em, and little dog Toto. One day the farmhouse, with Dorothy inside, is caught up in a tornado and deposited in a field in the country of the Munchkins. The falling house kills the Wicked Witch of the East. The Good Witch of the North comes with the Munchkins to greet Dorothy and gives Dorothy the shoes that the Wicked Witch of the East had been wearing when she was killed. In order to return to Kansas, the Good Witch of the North tells Dorothy that she will have to go to the "Emerald City" and ask the Wizard of Oz to help her. On her way down the road paved with yellow brick to the Emerald City, Dorothy frees the Scarecrow from the pole he is hanging on, restores the movements of the rusted Tin Woodman with an oilcan, and encourages the Cowardly Lion to journey with her and Toto to the Emerald City. The Scarecrow wants to get a brain, the Tin Woodman a heart, and the Cowardly Lion, courage. All are convinced by Dorothy that the Wizard can help them too. Together, they overcome obstacles on the way. When the group arrives at the Emerald City, the Guardian of the Gates provides them with special green spectacles that will keep the brilliance of the Emerald City from blinding them. When each traveler meets with the Wizard, he appears each time as someone or something different. To Dorothy, the Wizard is a giant head; the Scarecrow sees a beautiful woman; the Tin Woodman sees a ravenous beast; the Cowardly Lion sees a ball of fire. The Wizard agrees to help each of them, but one of them must kill the Wicked Witch of the West who rules over the Winkie Country. As the friends travel across the Winkie Country, the Wicked Witch sends wolves, crows, bees, and then her Winkie soldiers to attack them but they manage to get past them all. Then, using the power of the Golden Cap, the Witch summons the Winged Monkeys to capture all of the travelers. When the Wicked Witch gains one of Dorothy's silver shoes by trickery, Dorothy in anger grabs a bucket of water and throws it on the Wicked Witch, who begins to melt. The Winkies rejoice at being freed of the witch's tyranny, and they help to reassemble the Scarecrow and the Tin Man. The Winkies love the Tin Woodman and they ask him to become their ruler, which he agrees to do after helping Dorothy return to Kansas. Dorothy uses the Golden Cap to summon the Winged Monkeys to carry her and her companions back to the Emerald City, and the King tells how they were bound by an enchantment to the cap by Gayelette. When Dorothy and her friends meet the Wizard of Oz again, he tries to put them off. Toto accidentally tips over a screen in a corner of the throne room, revealing an old man who had journeyed to Oz from Omaha long ago in a hot air balloon. The Wizard persuades the Scarecrow, the Tin Woodman, and the Cowardly Lion that what they lack are not brains or a heart or courage, but faith in themselves. In order to help Dorothy and Toto get home, the Wizard realizes that he will have to take them home with him in a new balloon, which he and Dorothy fashion from green silk. Revealing himself to the people of the Emerald City one last time, the Wizard appoints the Scarecrow, by virtue of his brains, to rule in his stead. Dorothy chases Toto after he runs after a kitten in the crowd, and before she can make it back to the balloon, the ropes break, leaving the Wizard to rise and float away alone. Dorothy turns to the Winged Monkeys to carry her and Toto home, but they cannot cross the desert surrounding Oz. The Soldier with the Green Whiskers advises that Glinda, the Good Witch of the South, may be able to send Dorothy and Toto home. They, the Scarecrow, the Tin Woodman, and the Cowardly Lion journey to Glinda's palace in the Quadling Country. Together they escape the Fighting Trees, dodge the Hammer-Heads, and tread carefully through the China Country. The Cowardly Lion kills a giant spider, who is terrorizing the animals in a forest, and he agrees to return there to rule them after Dorothy returns to Kansas--the biggest of the tigers ruling in his stead as before. Dorothy uses her third wish to fly over the Hammer-Heads' mountain. At Glinda's palace, the travelers are greeted warmly, and it is revealed by Glinda that Dorothy had the power to go home all along. The Silver Shoes she wears can take her anywhere she wishes to go. She tearfully embraces her friends, all of whom will be returned, through Glinda's use of the Golden Cap, to their respective sovereignties: the Scarecrow to the Emerald City, the Tin Woodman to the Winkie Country, and the Cowardly Lion to the forest. Then she will give the Cap to the king of the Winged Monkeys, so they will never be under its spell again. Dorothy and Toto return to Kansas and a joyful family reunion. The Silver Shoes are lost during Dorothy's flight and never seen again. See... You didn't know I was famous, did ya? |
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| Reply by: Tinman at May 02, '08 18:29 | |
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