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Outcome of the meeting is the following people are now banned from all cities with immediate effect;
Rianne, Caius, Kuku, Kuku's girl, TeQ, EC, Rory, Space_Pole, Fatality, Jono, Cruel, telkin
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[02:31] Welcome :D
[02:31] tyty
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[02:33] Evening all
[02:33] Evening
[02:33] Hullo
[02:36] Hello
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[02:37] * Warrior throws sweets in tiggy's mouth
[02:37] * tiggy munches
[02:39] * Cassi opens wide
[02:39] huh
[02:39] prolly should have specified that it was my mouth.
[02:41] haha
[02:41] :)
[02:41] JJ - any idea where Prem and Roman are?
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[02:45] Hello everyone, sorry for the delay
[02:46] Hello
[02:46] Hello
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[02:46] hello
[02:46] * Warrior tips his hat
[02:47] Evening
[02:47] Evening
[02:47] So we have representives from ny, chi, philly, detroit, lv, stl as i can see
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[02:47] La as well now
[02:47] Jimmy will be a couple of minutes late, he is at work like myself
[02:47] my apologies for being a little late as I am at work
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[02:47] and new orleans
[02:48] So all cities are present and accounted for
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[02:48] Give it a few for people to get here..
[02:48] Still dribbling in
[02:48] Please?
[02:48] yeah waiting on Tanda as well
[02:48] thats fine
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[02:49] Im just buying lunch and walking back to work
[02:50] I might be here then away for a few mins at a time at work but will do my best to be actively involved in meeting np
[02:50] Ok
[02:50] Evening everyone, pleasure to see you.
[02:50] So more or less we called this meeting
[02:50] to address a few issues
[02:51] I am sure all of you have seen or been directly affected by some of the rogues, body guard killers, nay sayers and general shit starters.
[02:51] Over the couse of the past week, i have been dealing with it a lot, inside and outside of my city.
[02:51] It came to a head when one of their undergrounds tried to convicne another Godfather to kill me over an out of game issue. I wont get into specfics, but speaking with my upper structure and good friend roman
[02:51] I have decided we need to take a stand
[02:52] as a group
[02:52] What i will be suggesting is that we all come up with a list of people
[02:52] that will not be allowed in the citys
[02:52] No help
[02:52] No crew
[02:52] Nothing
[02:52] No given 5th chances, 100th chances for some of them
[02:53] I understand doing this they will still incog and sneak into cities to cause drama and that is understandable
[02:53] but we need to step up recruting, no member whoring, no ok your new come join
[02:53] If you do not wish to be apart of the Anti terrisom treaty, that is fine, but my city will not condunct business with yours.
[02:53] for this to work it has to be all of us or none of us.
[02:53] Right now it affects me, or las vegas or chicago
[02:53] but in a month when they finish with me
[02:53] they go to you next
[02:54] They attack your families after wards
[02:54] they use you to get to me and i attack
[02:54] This isnt about me or chicago
[02:54] its about all of us as a group
[02:54] Thing is, they can be more dangerous when we don't know where they are
[02:55] I'm not saying don't ban them, I'm all for that.. But doing it may take away from our ability to keep track of their activities
[02:55] That's true tiggy, but does that mean if we know who they are then we can have stiffer penalties?
[02:55] This enterprise isn't something that I think any of us should be living under terrorist threats
[02:56] I agree Roman
[02:56] But can any of us say right now we know 100% who is doing it?
[02:56] yes
[02:56] We know the core shit disturbers
[02:56] We have a few solid names
[02:56] I suppose a few questions would be how do they make the list (like if one person decided fuck em they hate my city add em to it.. or do they need to do multiple bad things etc)
[02:56] at least several names
[02:57] Jimmy each city can contriubte to the list
[02:57] but there needs to be a valid reason
[02:57] and why they are added
[02:57] So does Vegas, been working on that spreadsheet for a while now.
[02:57] And what if they are high rankers that are just suspected of it, no WS or logs to prove it?
[02:58] Like i said valid reasons
[02:58] Suspects ar enothing
[02:58] but when its time and time again they have done
[02:58] I really like the no member whoring recruitment stuff also as a united thing if we can figure that out
[02:58] or made the open threat
[02:58] of saying
[02:58] im going to keep doing it
[02:58] then they need to be banned
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[02:58] on the point of recrutiment
[02:58] That's fine with me, completely agree
[02:58] i would say keep a list of recruits, where they said they were from, new or not new
[02:58] if they are training guns
[02:58] if they are asking for IA lists
[02:58] if they have bodyguards with no one helping
[02:58] Jimmy, I don't send out recruitment mails, if someone wants to join me they'll ask.
[02:59] it will help keep tabs over all
[02:59] Already doing that Prem...
[02:59] Have been for a couple months
[02:59] And i am not saying no one is
[02:59] New sign-ups
[02:59] I like that tactic.. its not a country club.even for a small city like me I am against it
[02:59] I am saying for thoes who ar enot, they need to
[02:59] and for people who think, oh well id rather keep tabs. Look at what can happen
[02:59] and once on the list its forever? or able to someday yrs from now redeem?
[02:59] they shoot bodyguards you have no proof, or no idea
[02:59] then one day they are caught
[02:59] now that city they shot at
[02:59] is agaisnt you
[03:00] Anyone can redeem but it isnt going to be a hey guys
[03:00] im sorry
[03:00] like the gambling world had the black book for cheaters
[03:00] same idea
[03:00] wont happen again
[03:00] There needs to be some redemption
[03:00] we can't be tyrants, even if they live with nothing but hate
[03:00] brb 3 mins checktime!! at work
[03:00] I think a min time auto onceo n list or something
[03:00] I am all for legitment redepemtion
[03:00] you make the list.. its 6 months.. 1 yr.. I dunno
[03:01] if they want to come back on anon incog name and prove themselves
[03:01] sure
[03:01] but the whole im going to incog and prove im ok
[03:01] no
[03:01] If you arent doing anything wrong
[03:01] there is no reason to thide
[03:01] And like i said if you disagree with what i want to do, that is fine.
[03:01] But i will not do business with your city
[03:01] I wont enforce my views on anyway, but i know for this to wor
[03:01] i need everyone
[03:02] and if you arent invovled i will ensure my protection by denying entry into my city
[03:02] Who are going to be the first banned from the cities?
[03:02] be back in a min, cigg
[03:02] I was not disagreeing
[03:02] From my city
[03:02] I am asking
[03:02] For ArchAngel, Rianne, Caius, Kulksni, kulkisnkis girl, teq
[03:02] I never said I disagreed... But we can't shun them from the game forever. That's essentially what we are doing.
[03:03] If anyone wants to add to the list they may
[03:03] I know new orleans and vegas had names as well as did chicago
[03:04] My main one was TeQ
[03:04] I think TeQ is on a few lists
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[03:04] * tiggy nods
[03:04] Yea
[03:04] * JesusTheGangster growls
[03:04] #1 on ours
[03:04] Rory,ec,spacepole,teq
[03:04] Rory here too
[03:04] ec?
[03:04] evilclown
[03:04] agreed
[03:04] EvilClown
[03:04] evilclown?
[03:04] EvilClown
[03:04] k
[03:04] We want spacepole and evilclown
[03:05] Agree with all names
[03:05] All have been caught BGing or roguing and encouraging it
[03:05] Lets get a final list before it goes up to vote
[03:05] I know who space is, no name o ec. I have a name for rory too
[03:05] Anyone else
[03:05] ?
[03:05] Rianne, Caius, TeQ, Kuklinski, Kuku's significant other, Rory, EvilClown, Space_Pole
[03:06] sorry, conversing with Aiz and Tanda
[03:06] Believe that's where we are at
[03:06] Crab?
[03:06] who is crab?
[03:06] He's on our list....
[03:06] Ive no idea who he is, but is apparently one of the bg shooters.
[03:06] Ameneon
[03:06] In chi
[03:06] Wrong spellig, sorry im on my phone
[03:07] Ameneon
[03:07] ..
[03:07] Has he ever been caught shooting BGs?
[03:07] Tiggy could check that as i dont have my list
[03:07] That's what you put on the list
[03:07] What about Kev?
[03:07] Is he playing clean?
[03:07] aye
[03:07] far as I know anyway
[03:07] I was just about to ask about Kev
[03:08] yeah teq kukslinki have both tried to ruin my business
[03:08] Cruel?
[03:08] Cruel is clean
[03:08] what was crab responsible for?
[03:08] I wouldn't mind cruel on the list
[03:09] he's rogued, and generally acted annoying
[03:09] I would
[03:09] He has been giving an honest effort here in New Orleans
[03:09] either he's buttering me up, or his deployment straightened him out
[03:09] all or nothing in my opinion
[03:09] I know I went wacko before I went over seas
[03:10] we make concessions on one
[03:10] then it occurs for the rest
[03:10] If one city deems them a threat
[03:10] SpikeSpiegel is also one we have been watching... Seems to be in the same city when a lot of BGs are shot
[03:10] then i say add them to the lsist
[03:10] Same with ChaCha
[03:10] I wasn't going to go here
[03:10] Id perfer not to put suspects only on the list, only if they have proof
[03:11] Then I want to add Fatality
[03:11] I can only point out a few people teq and kukslinki and his girl
[03:11] as they have blantly tried to ruin my profits etc
[03:11] Fair enough, Jono as well then
[03:11] Prem, I never said add them to the list, was just sharing names we could all keep an eye on to help each other and this group working together
[03:11] Roman... I am not trying to hardball anyone
[03:11] I'm not either
[03:12] Jono wanted to have prem shot
[03:12] How far are we going to go here then?
[03:12] I will agree with jono
[03:12] I have logs from teqs private room
[03:12] discussing jono to shoot me
[03:13] This somehow now feels like an unfriendly meeting
[03:13] I am willing to make a showing of good faith
[03:14] I just don't want us to all go bananas here
[03:14] The habitual offenders sure
[03:14] And i believe i have a valid reason
[03:14] jono is good friends with people on the list
[03:14] and i have direct logs
[03:14] discussing your shot record
[03:14] and if you are strong enough to kill me
[03:15] I eam more on about Cruel
[03:15] am*
[03:15] Like i said i am not trying to hard ball anyone, if you dont agree with it, you do not have to do it
[03:17] So what is our list up to now?
[03:17] And for the people i added to the list if anyone wants an explination of why
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[03:17] I would be more then happy to explain
[03:19] What is the list upto now?
[03:22] Rianne, Caius, Kuku, Kuku's girl, TeQ, EC, crab, Rory, Space_Pole, Fatality, Jono, Cruel, Kev?
[03:22] When did we add Kev?
[03:23] I just saw his name mentioned
[03:23] He's living clean as far as I know, unless someone has objection or reason for him to be added i'd like him to remain off.
[03:23] Sorry to interrupt and speak out of turn.. I asked if he was playing clean, that's all.
[03:24] Didn't ask for him to be added.
[03:24] i havent had a problem with kev
[03:24] Why is Cruel on the list?
[03:24] that was just all names mentioned
[03:24] I think I missed something here.. im lagging a bit
[03:24] not final list
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[03:25] Personally I think it would be fair to erase both Kev and Cruel from the list. Both have made an effort to seperate from that group and live the correct lifestyle
[03:27] Crag was mentioned because he is apparently shooting BGs on his current character
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[03:27] Or was, till he was just shot.
[03:27] *Crab
[03:27] then why was this never reported or mentioned ?
[03:28] I hadn't heard that
[03:28] and I haven't heard ill of cruel on this name since he came to NO
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[03:30] well I think everyone seems okay with the idea of it all
[03:30] Back shortly, I need food and there are two other LV reps that can do the talking I'm sure
[03:30] just ironing out the list how to be on it and removed now etc
[03:30] (but I could be wrong)
[03:30] Yeah the basis of the idea is sound imo.
[03:30] And guys we can't just judge people by current names
[03:30] i would like to see the evidence on crab
[03:30] I mean it does go against the new name new person completely
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[03:30] most of these things people have mentioned have been from previous and or multiple incidents
[03:31] cause everyone in here knows that ive been hunting these guys for almost every city out there
[03:31] so will be taking us on a different path long term but for business to prosper and as au nited front might be worth it
[03:31] and no one has ever mentioned crab to me at all
[03:31] sorry internet shit out
[03:31] Everyone is entitled to see evidence if the person wants the name added to the list
[03:31] so if anyone has evdience on crab please come forward
[03:32] crab is already dead
[03:32] so i defo want to see the evidence
[03:33] Not sure why he was killed so suddenly. His name was mentioned by me as a question mark, as opposed to adding him. Vegas then agreed he is on a suspect list they have
[03:33] Like the rest of the names, people were simply discussing
[03:34] ah so there is nothing other then a suspicion
[03:34] how great
[03:35] well I'd imagine there is some
[03:35] but AFK
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[03:36] * tiggy is away: No sammich time, bacon carbonera noodles instead... This message is for Jerusalem
[03:37] I will also say add telkin to the list
[03:38] It's not him
[03:38] He's not been around enough..
[03:38] He's also not on Stealth answers
[03:39] (That I know of)
[03:39] He shot a chicago lhm bodyguard then also said he would do it again
[03:39] When was this?
[03:40] When he was in New Orleans
[03:40] 3 weeks ago
[03:40] i believe
[03:40] right before he came to you guys
[03:40] He bragged about it to TeQ
[03:40] Yeah and since then he's been kicked out of his house 6 times
[03:40] Lost his account for that too
[03:40] He's barely had net access
[03:41] i will allow him to pass then if everyone agrees
[03:41] I do not agree
[03:41] then he stays
[03:41] I've held up my end of this twice over now
[03:41] I'm still waiting on Cruel
[03:41] Roman has killed crab and falitliy
[03:42] If anyone knows of names ont he list that are in their city
[03:42] please say you are agreing or not joining the deal please
[03:42] so we know where we stand
[03:42] That's Chade's call
[03:42] And he's at work
[03:42] So he may be a few responding
[03:42] People who to be in the room wer einsturcted to be able to make descions for the city
[03:42] Or Shaggs will have to
[03:42] if you cant make a descion for the city id ask for you to leave now
[03:43] I'd like a moment to discuss it with the RH to the Godfather
[03:43] Aizlynn, Tanda... I'm waiting on Cruel
[03:43] A city should be given time to discuss and decide
[03:43] discussing with jtg on the phone
[03:43] is internet crapped out
[03:43] You can tell him Fatality is in the obits per his request
[03:44] Then we will make the final list
[03:44] and give a few hours to discuss
[03:44] everyone agree
[03:44] I am also waiting on Jono
[03:44] from new orleans
[03:44] Works for me. Only fair since some are on from work and can't dedicate 100% of their attention to it.
[03:44] Rianne, Caius, Kuku, Kuku's girl, TeQ, EC,Rory, Space_Pole, Fatality, Jono, Cruel,
[03:44] Does everyone agree on that list
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[03:45] telkin*
[03:45] We're agreed in LV
[03:45] Detroit agrees.
[03:45] St. Louis agrees
[03:45] and LA agrees also with this step
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[03:46] Rianne, Caius, Kuku, Kuku's girl, TeQ, EC, Rory, Space_Pole, Fatality, Jono, Cruel, telkin
[03:46] Is the final list then
[03:46] we're agreed
[03:47] So, does this replace any current bans? As id imagine anyone people wished to keep banned, should be added?
[03:48] PH agrees
[03:48] Jono is dead.
[03:49] NO agrees.
[03:49] there goes cruel
[03:49] I had no idea he was Thor.
[03:49] yup
[03:50] Thank you for your time.
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[03:50] nice to see you all :)
[03:50] sorry I couldnt be here the entire time 100% but nice to see us all doing something together
[03:51] Can people respond to their fallen members funeral to alert the public there isn't a rogue. Just a NO Ws required or something to that affect?
[03:53] Of course
[03:53] Yep
[03:56] * OverThere is back (gone 00:19:29)
[03:56] *** OverThere is now known as tiggy
[03:57] so can i get a final list to make sure jtg gets it and our people know who is not welcome
[03:57] please
[03:57] my irc is being so laggy :/
[03:57] [22:46] <~Premeir> Rianne, Caius, Kuku, Kuku's girl, TeQ, EC, Rory, Space_Pole, Fatality, Jono, Cruel, telkin
[03:57] last list I saw
[03:57] Thank you Sir |
