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Wiping The Slate Clean? Started by: -R_Kuklinski on Oct 24, '11 10:11

Stan waves the crowd back giving kuklinski room and space to breath in

" Now come on people with all this looovvveee being showen here kukus going to feel welcome"

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Kuklinski are you being serious you want to wipe the slate clean.

Here is a small list about how annoying you can be.

Number 1.Most people hate you.
Number 2.You bring chaos to the streets.
Number 3.You caused the fall of probably the two greatest city ever in Mafia returns (Chicago and New York)
Number 4.You polluted the streets.

I only named four because this list goes on and on forever.

Why would you even think after all these weeks of annoying people they would like to have you as a family member.

I could say there is only one thing that you are good at
and that is talking in the streets
but some how you have managed to turn that power into evil.

So Kuklinski basically come back in a few years when everyone has forget about you.

But you do have something good about you.

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Now now T-Man no bashing, he didn't start bashing anyone so know need to bash him. Thats just childs play

KuKu if you are serious, Get with a crew leader and have a sit down with them and agree with their rules, youve talked in the past about you bloodline being hunted and what not but this may be a new era seize the moment if you are truly interested in having the slate whiped clean

good luck.

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I must echo Chuckle's own thoughts here. As you can see from the leader meeting that was held not long ago, I sensed no ill will towards anyone. Provided that you do not cause any harm to businesses or relations I see no problem with anyone taking you into their family Mr. Kuklinski.

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T-Man-The-Second, I can assure you that the Kuklinski bloodline did not cause the fall of anyone besides the Kuklinski bloodline.

~C~

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I do not mean to harm, I just want my words to be heard, but I did mention something good about Kuklinski.

Badwolf what you are saying should work but there is always an IF.

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T-Man, you what your words to be heard? Okay well here is my response to hearing what you said.

Yes there are those that sigh when the hear that someone from the Kuklinski line has made a speech. But the voices you hear are mainly those who have in the past tended to skip around the point he was making and turning it into something about him. Yes there are many times where he has brought up his lines past. But that does not mean his points are not still valid.

He brings chaos to the streets, hrmm well okay I'll give you that for a tiny second. Yes his line spent many a night here, berating Godfathers -Premier and Roman, although more -Premier than Roman. But then look at the responses he got from -Premier yes he was a godfather but some of the things my line heard coming out of his mouth were unbelievable for a godfather to say, our word is built on respect, if a godfather isn't willing to draw a line in the sand and set it why should the rest of us?

Oh now this next point actually did make me laugh. First let me start by saying I will not take anything away from Godfather Roman, my grandfather worked for him for some time and 90% of his time in Chicago was a happy time, it was a great city. As for New York, how long do you believe the rest would have allowed -Premier to continue his ways? Honestly now, without Chicago backing him the rest of the leaders would have removed -Premier long before they actually did. What was in their way, they didn't want to go up against Roman and Chicago. Then events happened that sealed Chicago's fate and enabled the rest to remove those who were unwanted.

Now your final point, pollute the streets. When there was nothing to talk about the Kuklinski line has brought something to the streets, for a time this line was single handed keeping the streets alive. You may not have liked his style or tone, but you cannot deny the fact that where the streets had no life, his line injected it.

In the past, supporting or even agreeing on some of the things Kuku brought before us was enough to mark a man for death. Just because there weren't many willing to speak up for him them, that does not mean there aren't now. This is a new time, there is new leadership. Bury your hatchet, forget the old hatred and move on.

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Your a wise man Chewits very wise and that is why I respect you
As I was talking to Jesus the gangster on mibbit
I said everyone you are aloud your own opinion and so am I
But sometimes peoples opinions annoy others.
Kuklinski had an opinion but he abused his talking it to far.
I will stop now before I abuse my own opinion.

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Well put Chewits, KuKu your slate as you put it was wiped clean like everyone else im sure there are some leaders who would give you a shot if you can respect their rules. good luck

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I have no doubt the Kuklinski line will find a home and someone willing to give him yet another chance. But, alas, idiots are still idiots and are prone to doing idiotic things no matter who is in charge.

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I've always enjoyed watching the Kuklinkski line get a rise out of the crowds that gather to listen to his street speeches.

That said, this man has proved in the past he can be a productive member of our society, and certainly has the skills to thrive in our world.

I wish you the best of luck, Mr Kuklinski, and look forward to seeing what your bloodline has in store for the future.

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I do think the reason for many many many long months your bloodline was just trying to prove something up to the late Roman and -Premeir. But, your ancestor were idiotic to make underground hitters and hit BG's. But, after now the era of Roman and -Premeir are done, there are no reason to fight anymore. This is all I'm thinking what's the reason for you wanting to have a clean slate. It should be allowed for you to have a chance like most people in this thing of ours. But, your bloodline can't really fuck up. I wish you the best of luck.

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Harmony listens as people speak up.

Just so we're clear I am not arguing for or against Kuklinski's success but I would like to point out that people do change and can become better. My bloodline has been trashed into the ground before and I've risen above that and got my head straight.

Maybe all he needs is the right home to get him back on his feet..

Harmony nods in Kuklinski's direction.

That being said, I do wish you best of luck on this clean slate and hope you make good use of it.

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I am not trying to acknowledge any support or defamation of kuklinski in this post.

There is a book series I read. The shadow children series.

In this world, 3rd children were illegal, there was a massive draught and no crops. The government had a certain group, the 'population police' to hunt down 3rd children, the leader of the 'population police', comparable to gestapo or blackshirts of WWII, were practically the despots of the country. They hunted down 3rd children whenever they could, and also tried to kill any supporters or sympathisers.

In the old regime, shadow children were isolated, talked about as though they were vermin, and isolated, not spoken of a whole. Like 'oh, this 3rd child' or 'oh, that kuku lunatic' as you all mihgt be familiar to.

Whenever a 3rd child appeared in the streets, they were killed ASAP, no one seemed to care.

Some sympathisers were kept in secret, sheltering the 3rd children knowingly, others were thrown under the bus for the slightest suspicion.

After the regime was overthrown, there was a celebration of sorts, people rejoiced... But after a while, the new government tried to implement anti-3rd child propaganda. Then the 3rd children and the supporters all came out into public, and they were welcomed after fighting the new actions of the new regime. Not fighting with tooth and nail, but fighting with words and numbers. Speaking in front of a crowd.

Now replace 3rd children with kuklinski, and the supporters of them with supporters/followers of him. And you must think, is there going to be a point where kuklinski will be shunned again, and treated the same way as he was before the fall or Prem and Roman? Will people that spoke to support or defend him be shot on sight? Or will a truly new system emerge from the new union of Don't and Godfathers, to welcome free-er speech and kuklinski, whether he truly is rabble, or a modern age Plato or Aristocrates.

All I'm saying is that Kuklinski seemed to liven up the streets, and he did, I've gotten many expressions out of reading his posts and comments. I'm not sure what to truly think of him, but not many human beings should be treated like vermin, not on the Internet or in person.

Marty bows his head and begins walking down the street.

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Still can't get past gangster even with Premeir and Roman gone. Go figure.

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Considering he'a still a civilian that would be kinda hard, but go you for pointing out the irrelevant.

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Kuklinski has it there to reach the heights he is sure he can acheive, All it will take is to conform to his CLs wishes work hard and forge his destiny, i for one would enjoy seeing what he can acheive, Kuklinski thats the challenge put before you will you and can you?

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Chewits looks like hes still not going anywhere

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