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The Sharingan Sees Rogue Bloodlines Started by: Zetsu on Nov 22, '11 20:02

You happen to see a man dressed in a large black cloak with red and white clouds painted on it. He
pulls out a box of matches and a cigar and strokes the matchstick of the stubble on his cheek and lights up the cigar.


He blows the smoke from the cigar out of his nose and then sets his matchbox into his pocket and begins to speak

I have a few topics of discussion I would like to bring up and yeah, I could be beating a dead horse but hey
sometimes we need a new refreshing point on the world in this new era.

Tackling the debate on bloodlines, is it really so fair to say that there should be no bloodline shooting when
a new face pops up that we know's father has been around the scene and left the place a complete and utter mess?
Only for there son to come and take revenge upon a bloodline that has been around a lot longer and has made less of
idiotic stance than there father and "we" who have been around working our asses off are supposed to just chin
up let that person walk around until they decide to attack "us" again?

Another thing is Rogues, now with this new alliance who are able to just walk into a city without a GF and claim
to be a crewleader is this really down to the place where they came from? Mobsters get upset every single day
about this and that and without letting his family know he can go pack his bag fly to a state somewhere else and
set up his own bussiness on some different turf.

Shouldn't we be instating Godfathers in each City now? To cancel this out. I mean the Godfather coucil cannot start
blaming crewleaders for their members who haven't even been introduced into the "family" if they have the power to
instate the proper precautionary methods to prevent this kind of thing to happen.

In my opinion I think that it will lead down a road we don't want to go...With crewleaders blaming crewleaders and
godfathers blaming godfathers and then Godfathers blaming their cities' crewleaders..

If I was on the Godfather coucil I wouldn't want to bring upon a war because of bloodline debacles and something
which could be avoided if the proper measures were taken. I know there are Leaders and mafioso out there that
are capable of taking on the job of having their own city but that is up to the Godfather Council at the end of the day.

I'm not here to start arguments, I'm here to ask questions to try and find out if The Godfather Council had taken these
thoughts into consideration when deciding to leave three cities without actual Godfathers. I also wanted to find out if
the public shared my views on this and if not why?

With that, Zetsu quickly blended in with the crowd of mobsters that were gathered around the coffeeshops and streets...

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To begin with, I agree that some bloodlines will never change, and that they should not be given chance after chance after chance to prove they have changed, only to throw it back in our face and mess things up again. However, there are certain instances where people will make a bad judgement call and end up dying because of it. I don't personally think their bloodline should now be tarnished forever, give them a chance, sure, just not ten chances. Even after a few chances have been wasted, maybe give a 'cooling off' period, terrible way of describing it, I know, but just a period where they aren't given any more chances. At the end of this period, they can then be given another chance, but just one chance, again, not another ten.

As far as rogues go, rogues are individual people. Whereas the Crewleader that promoted them does deserve to take some responsibility, however, due to the recent change by the Gods, that allows Wise Guy's to promote themselves and purchase a Headquarters, the blame cannot really be placed on them. In the end, the rogue would have probably been thinking about doing this for some time, even before they joined a family.

Considering what you say about the current state in Las Vegas, it's my understanding that rules were put in place against those who wanted to set up there. For example, they had to have their current CL/GF's consent before moving.

What you mentioned about the state of the other cities, those without a Godfather that is, I imagine the Godfather Council know exactly what they are doing. It has been less than a month since the last major war, give them some time to get everything in order, the last thing we need is for a Godfather to be authed into a city without proper consideration.

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Shouldn't we be instating Godfathers in each City now? To cancel this out. I mean the Godfather coucil cannot start blaming crewleaders for their members who haven't even been introduced into the "family" if they have the power to instate the proper precautionary methods to prevent this kind of thing to happen.

Why should we be instating Godfathers or Godmothers in each city? Each city has their designated representative, to meddle in other city affairs is bad juju. Also, why can't the council blame crewleaders for their members? Made or not, each Crewleader is responsible for whatever their crew does or fails to do. Even when someone is simply associated with the crew, there are measures in which you can take to avoid any discredit brought on by them. You could stay in touch with their lives and request participation in whatever you have going on. 

In my opinion I think that it will lead down a road we don't want to go...With crewleaders blaming crewleaders and godfathers blaming godfathers and then Godfathers blaming their cities' crewleaders..

In this thing of ours, we take responsibility for our actions and the actions of those associated with the crew and our city. The whole blame game comes with anything as it's all part of the game of politics. Pointing fingers is the result of opinions made by these crewleaders and Godfathers or Godmothers, all with their respected reasons, c'est la vie. 

 

If I was on the Godfather coucil I wouldn't want to bring upon a war because of bloodline debacles and something which could be avoided if the proper measures were taken. I know there are Leaders and mafioso out there that are capable of taking on the job of having their own city but that is up to the Godfather Council at the end of the day.

War as we know it is inevitable. The reasonings behind wars are vastly motivated and occur with little to no notice. The Godfather Council can do their best to settle upon whatever is at hand but at the end of the day, each person has their own opinion reserved and that's what, in my experience begins the unrest.

I'm not here to start arguments, I'm here to ask questions to try and find out if The Godfather Council had taken these thoughts into consideration when deciding to leave three cities without actual Godfathers. I also wanted to find out if the public shared my views on this and if not why?

I believe that the council hasn't directed the matter of leaving those cities without Godfathers or Godmothers but rather left them to the ranking or designated individual to rise to the position. The title of Godfather or Godmother comes with great prestige and not everyone is up to the task. Leaving it as how it is now, I believe, is best. Let those who are rising to the position fight for it, earn it.

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"Also, why can't the council blame crewleaders for their members? Made or not, each Crewleader is responsible for whatever their crew does or fails to do. Even when someone is simply associated with the crew, there are measures in which you can take to avoid any discredit brought on by them. You could stay in touch with their lives and request participation in whatever you have going on."

Stay in touch with their lives? Crewleaders are meant to be doing that anyway. If it's a case of them not doing that then yeah it is by all means the crewleaders fault. Although in some situations there is absolutely no getting the fact of going rogue out of someones mind and I don't think that the blame should be put down on the crewleader for that.

I also don't get how if their going to be blamed that a crewleader can avoid discredit for that happening. Like police files, that will be written down somewhere in other crewleaders notes to be looked upon and brought up if anything else does happen to said crewleader.

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Every shot a member takes is on the crew leader, be it good or bad. There's only one way to build up a gun and that's by being under the protection of a CL. You can only control someone so much, them choosing to betray the trust of being a "hitter" and use it for something else doesn't take away from the facts.

Simply by bringing them in they're being vouched for in a sense, which is why no harm will come to them from outside forces 98% of the time. Once protection is offered, they are now your problem.

Dropping out doesn't change the fact that they built that gun under your protection.

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So in other words...This is just a run of the dice thing then? You shouldn't accept members if you don't want to take that risk. I know it's not a high risk if you do get to know that person and past characters etc.

To be honest I've just thought that if you don't know past characters and what not and this person is training there gun then they should be inspected.

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