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An Epidemic | Started by: Katana on Dec 05, '11 03:23 |
Katana realized it wasn't often that she felt she needed to speak her mind but she simply couldn't turn her head to what she had noticed lately. Spying the soapbox that had returned from being stolen not long ago she took a step up on it so she could see over the crowds heads, and stand out just a bit. |
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Let's be realistic here. Suicide happens. Yes, it's bothersome because it's a death in the family and you may have invested however much time and effort in the individual. Now, you're asking an individual to go out by taking a bullet? That's selfish. If they suicide, they don't care, they've made the choice for whatever reason. So who cares? Let them rot six feet under.
How about instead of going off on how one chooses to suicide, figure out how you could've kept them alive and prevent the next one. |
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Reply by: Brutus at Dec 05, '11 03:33 | |
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Hearing Brutus she nods to him. I will for one say I do care about the wasted time on the person, and to me seeing them lying dead there by their own hand, verses at least giving their family one thing that could benefit someone in it, is a slap in the face. |
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Reply by: Katana at Dec 05, '11 03:42 | |
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Pausing on the street corner as he takes a break from his morning routine, Klint takes a long drag from his smoke as he watches Katana finish addressing the audience before speaking his mind on the matter.
Taking one's own life has long been viewed as the great equalizer around here when things in a family aren't really working out. At the same time, it really is the ultimate slap in the face to the very people you signed up. This is especially true considering the majority of suicides these days seem to occur before the accepted individual even gives the family a chance to prove that they are the place to work for.
The people that brought you into this world most likely invested some time and effort getting you into the family. The way I look at it, the responsible thing for a lot of people would be to at least confront the leaders and make it known that they wish to have it end and give any reasons why if there are in fact any. |
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Reply by: Paul_Klint- at Dec 05, '11 03:47 | |
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*Stepping out into the street to the commotion, Jam_n_Honey listens carefully,*
My first ancestors were raised in this world to believe that suicide is reprehensible. Sometimes a family is not a good fit, and the honorable thing to do is to request your own death. I also believe that it is important to find out why the family member is so distraught. Is there anything that could be done to save them? Both sides need to be honest. Sometimes there is nothing that can be done, but sometimes it is a matter of being able to meet the needs of the family member.
There are some families out there that think all they have to do is recruit members. Recruiting should be where the work begins, not where it ends. Also, some people think once they are in a family their work is done. By the same token, it is where the work begins. |
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Reply by: Jam_n_Honey at Dec 05, '11 12:35 | |
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The whole 'SUICIDE IS WRONG' thing really grates on me. I know a lot of us mobsters have Catholic roots, but really this is just fucking ridiculous. You cannot honestly tell me any hitsquad would actually benefit from training their guns on the rare instance of an individual leaving our life behind in an environment where it is possible to earn 3 notches on your barrel in 48 hours with literally no work involved.
If there are any families whose hitsquad would benefit from training their guns on those people leaving, missing out on the opportunity to do so is the least of their worries considering we'd be talking about a very large amount of people putting their head in ovens, jumping off bridges or other more imagnitive ways to off themselves.
Ultimately, suiciding is a fairly selfish thing to do in any walk of life and the mob is no exception - it's taking the easy way out with no regard for those you're leaving behind. So, if a single suicide happens I'd say 'yeah, fuck that guy, what a prick'. If multiple suicides from one family start happening (and this has occured before) you're leaving the realm of 'inconsiderate individuals' and entering the world of 'Crewleaders who are so uninspiring that their crew is rocked by regular instances of people killing themselves'. |
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Reply by: Sprozz at Dec 07, '11 14:52 | |
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For me this all depends on the attitude and mindset of the individual. Sure it's a selfish thing to do but if you've fallen out with your CL or family members to the point where you wish for death. Why would you give them the bonus? |
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Reply by: Einar at Dec 09, '11 00:28 | |
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