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| High Time for a CP stand | Started by: the_devil on May 26, '08 05:21 |
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It's time. It's HIGH time in fact. You've all cursed the CPs from time to time. Even people with CP in their name curse them, so I for one belive the tide is so high we're all nearly drowning. You say it's just another few crew leaders falling? Like all those that did so before them? Like Giorgio, Scotland, Anita, Starli and so forth? Well you're WRONG. For every one of those that fell, there were none to take their place. Not in our hearts. With the CP it's different. I'd not say that if it wasn't true. Sure there seems to be tons of them! Of course there does. This is because they do not like to show their own weakness. There are a limited number of CP. Only few of them are actually good shooters OR rankers, despite what they hold on their profile now and what they seem to do to everyone who oppose them. Has it ever occurred to anyone why it seems they hold such power when they are so few? Is it not true? do you not every day see someone else screaming that they hate the CP? The reason they have that power is because their shooters, you and me are just simply trying to survive by ourselves. There are no other CLs. We let them hold the power of the people without too many of us thinking that, THAT is US. Us and no other. You all saw how fragile they were, did you not? or were you blind for that is the only way you would miss it! A SINGLE rogue took took out FOUR crew leaders without flinching and only died because he ran out of people to pro him. I assure you, this is very real. It's so real you can toutch it. FEEL it. That rogue needs people. More than that he needs SOLDIERS. People willing to FIGTH AND DIE to be free. Or do you LIKE it? Do you LIKE being ruled by the CP? I'm sure you think you saw another post like this one yesterday and will see another one tomorrow. I'm SURE you'll think that someone will deal with them. I'm also sure that NOTHING will happen unless YOU AND ME HELP MAKE IT HAPPEN. Did you ever considder that at least ONE "Terrorist group" that claimed they were freedom figthers actually are? Did you considder that history is writen by those who win it? That Dead Men Tell No Tales and therefore cannot deffend themselves when the victor speaks? Did you at ALL think of this? that in less than a day the CP controls the word on the street after a rogue? They will kill me if someone else does not first or I will suicide. It does not really matter. The reason i write this is that Ideas are BulletProof. This is my plead to you. As you see I have chosen The Devil as a nickname the reason for this is because I ask you to make a choise. Make the choise of the lesser evil. Rigth now That's me. Suffer under the CP hope to rule in total dominionship or suffer under the "vile chaos" that is here without them. Make a choise but remember that you all have to awnser for it, whatever it may be some day. I for one preffer that "vile chaos" we all did well in. |
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FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO PAAAAAAAAARTAAAAAY |
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| Reply by: KingofWheelbarrows at May 26, '08 05:23 | |
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Well said Mr. Barrow. *distributes party hats* |
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| Reply by: CommodumPerfectus at May 26, '08 05:40 | |
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Cheer up man. You're too serious. Just follow what they're doing. *Points to KoW and CP* |
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| Reply by: Blank at May 26, '08 05:45 | |
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a man in a pink suit walks up and ties his tie and realizes this is so not wear he parked his car. Its nothing more than a silly little 12 year old boy on a crate yelling at please across the yard, he wonders to himself, when will this little boy stop crying? I play the smallest violin for you my friend, I really do. however, I really hope you do not write for a living, nor do you pretend to act, because that might have been just as breathe taking as a speech for 'Gigli' or 'attack of the flying tomatoes'. What do you try and prove with this post? just another rave and rant on how much your life sucks and how insignificant you are. your right, power lies with the people, however, obviously if no one has done anything about the CP, then things just aren't bad enough. your pleading will go unnoticed, and your moans will just be frowned upon and until you give up this silly rant on your tiny little soap box that was thrown away, probably by CP, you will get no where. love, pokoria. he hands the little boy a tissue and says, 'its ok little boy, we can all find our place in the world someday. yours just might not be where you wished it' |
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| Reply by: Pokoria at May 26, '08 05:45 | |
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I have said it before and I will say it again, CP are no unbeatable, they are just more organised. They have a plan and they stick to it. The problem is, too many people in our world are too willing to scream, moan and bitch, but either: a) lack the brain cells or; b) lack the balls to step up and do something. All it would take would be for half a dozen guys to get together and rank hard, back up by another half-dozen friends to assist, and a takedown can be completed. But it wont happen, because people dont have the balls or brains to get together and sort it out. Everyone is sitting around hoping that a single rogue will get some luck, but this wont happen. If another rogue had of set up after Premier, he couldve carried on te work, then once he dies, another one steps up and carries on. It would take hard work, and can be done. Disclaimer: I am not saying it should or shouldnt be done, and I will not be selling anyone my blueprints to 'Taking Down the CP.' I am merely adding to the conversation |
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| Reply by: Frenchie at May 26, '08 06:05 | |
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Its not a lack of brains or balls that prevents people from taking down CP (or anyone else who they happen to want taken down, but it seems CP are the flavour of the day), its a lack of patience and hard work. Infiltrate. Get some people in positions of power. You don't need to be running 100 strong families but get your badges, make capo, make boss. Train your gun and keep it legit. Its that easy. Work for CP's hitsquads, kill your weak friends that need killing and make the tough decisions to stay on their good side. Then strike when the time is right. It all sounds so simple, doesn't it? Too many people blow their cover too early. They can't hide their hatred for the people they oppose and are taken out. They can't keep their mouth shut, they can't keep their gun holstered or they can't play allies to get to the top. If you want something taken down its time to look at the bigger picture. If you take out on or two people the organisation is still there. Find people you trust and drill home the idea of keeping your nose clean and never, ever, losing patience. Then you've got a chance. |
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| Reply by: TheD at May 26, '08 06:27 | |
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Agree with most of that TheD, I guess it is just the society we live in. With all the McDonalds starting to pop up in most towns, we are slwoly moving into what I would like to call a Fast Food Society (maybe this term will catch on over the decades?) where everyone wants everything yesterday and isnt willing to work for it. People are looking for the easy way to do things. And its much easier to moan and bitch then work hard. As you say, it is easy. but also hard. Easy to stay quiet, easy to build yourself, just keep your head down, do what youve got to do, then when the time comes, strike. The problem is, most of the 'Anti-CP' are idiots. They dont come from major crime families who's genes it is in to work hard. they are just bandwagon jumpers. And no sooner will CP fall and another group rise, they will be straight back on the streets moaning and complaining. |
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| Reply by: Frenchie at May 26, '08 06:44 | |
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The thing is, this has happened before, and will always happen. And even that statement itself has been made countless times. This state or phenomena, whatever you'd like to call it, is cyclical. Unless they manage to innovate somehow, fortunately, or unfortunately, eventually they will fall. The groups or individuals who managed to hold on to the reins for the longest were the "pricks". If a group successfully overcomes the status quo and impose their own system of governance, if they're not vigilant and strict, they will fall all the quicker to the next group. No matter what the system of governance, no matter how democratised or 'pleasant' it is, someone will disagree with it, or those in power. If you had to choose between a long reign, and a short one, which would you choose? |
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| Reply by: Carlitos at May 26, '08 07:01 | |
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If you look back through History, you start to find things repeating themselves. For example, Caesar and Alexander never shouted for a great stand, they never called their brothers to arms. They went and carved a path for themselves and they are forever remembered for it. They are the victors. Historically, it has been the weak and invalid who have called for help; those who were unable to succeed by themselves whether through lack of skill or commitment. It could be argued, of course, that the weak and oppressed will always reach out for sympathisers because they are so; but a handy example are the Bolsheviks. They didn't ask for help before they overthrew Russia's Government, and as TheD says, they didn't act prematurely. They organised their coup with a ruthless efficiency and it was carried out beautifully. Indeed, the best example I can give is of CP taking power. Did they request help before taking out JohnnyAxe and his family to become the 'top dogs'? No they didn't, they worked hard and they were rewarded for it. They are still being rewarded for their hard work now because all the vicious haters (i.e. you) are too busy to gloat about insignificant kills and moan about the overall situation in the coffeeshops rather than put in the hard work themselves. It is a sad truth, but there we have it. I realise I'm rambling, so I'll wrap it up by saying that unless you are willing to put in the effort yourself, you will never succeed. That is true of anything. |
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| Reply by: Templar at May 26, '08 09:21 | |
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Then how, Templar, do you explain Franklin Roosevelt? The man can't even walk very well. Doesn't seem like effort to me. |
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| Reply by: Kilgore at May 26, '08 09:36 | |
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| He's the exception that proves the rule, obviously. | |
| Reply by: Templar at May 26, '08 09:41 | |
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Well, Templar. Your wrong about Alexander, his father Philip before him managed to merge Macedonian and Greek, their was division and strife, but under the Hellenistic banner their phalanxes and company calvary would march through the heart of Asia. But this wasn't a grand counteroffensive, it was a campaign of vengeance. Nearly a hundred years earlier the Persians had laid siege the Greeks and a few victories secured their survival. Alexander was out for blood and glory. He fought in the thick, The River Granicus, Halicarnussus, Issus, Tyre, Gaugamela and countless others. After each battle, his goals and ambitions became more and more apparent. Alexander even adopted eastern dress and eastern customs. A campaign of vengence turned into the conquest and adoptation of the Persian empire. And like wise, you'll see the same thing here. Wars and takedowns will be clothed behind a strong moral calling, but in the end it's about power. So, what's going to happen when our friends on the top of ousted? Will you be free, will it be better? Probably not. Someone more ruthless will replace them. It's a big big big big big cycle, which is fueled by fear, dissatisfication, ancestral spite and ambition. The end! |
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| Reply by: Sal_Giaquinto at May 26, '08 09:52 | |
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Sal, my prediction of the world is the following: Step One A group of half dozen leaders who have worked together, but dont really know eachother. Cue a battle for power, constant wars, plenty of random killings and an instable world. Give it a month or so and the result will be the following: Lots of people moaning about the current state saying they wished it was like when the CP were in charge and thigns were stable. Step Two A couple of the leaders finally get together and agree to consilidate power. They sign a constitution to agree to work together to try and calm down the world. Result: Everyone says how great things are that the leaders are finally working together to calm things down. Step Three The power is consilidated, the leaders pact gets stronger, and they decide to take control even more by only authing their friends, and killing off any threats. Result: People moan about 1 controlling power and we are back to the same situation as now. It is just a viscious circle, and it will always be that way. There will never be a time when each city is controlled by one GodFather and each GodFather is a soveriegn power in relation to eachother. |
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| Reply by: Frenchie at May 26, '08 10:08 | |
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I'm not too concerned about how it will end or not. My ancestors spent plenty of time with their head in the clouds. What matters is the present and I'm here to live each day for what it is, by the ideals which I have sworn myself to. Omerta, Onore, Sangue, Famiglia. Wither your wrong about cities worrying about themselves, I don't know. I hope your wrong, but it's human nature to worry about the guy down the street. Only time will tell. |
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| Reply by: Sal_Giaquinto at May 26, '08 10:29 | |
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Hollywood listens to the mans speech but the zones out afterwards. After dreaming of women with large breasts for a while he snaps back into reality. Sir, you say that they are not good rankers or have good guns etc...If they did not have either of these abilities, then how did they get into power in the first place. How is it that CommodumPerfectus is a Don if he is not a good ranker. About the guns...how is it possible that they can take out an entire family pretty much, by this I mean Alfonzo's, in less than a minute...they killed Alfonzo himself, and his high ranking soldiers in less than a minute. They have to have the gun power to control if they can pull off this kind of feat. Hollywood sees a woman with large breasts walk by on the street and catches his attention. He begins to follow her but then realizes he is in the middle of a speech. Sorry...I get easily distracted by that kind of thing. I digress...They have proven their power many times, so I don't understand how you can say that the CP leaders are not good rankers or have the guns necessary, it's just not logical if you look at their recent history. Hollywood tips his hat and runs after the big breasted lady from a few minutes ago. |
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| Reply by: HollywoodUndead at May 26, '08 13:32 | |
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Mumbles about all the death.. You know I dont care who is a CL.. all I know is I wish they would get off their preety chairs.. quit worrying about getting 100 bodyguards and be active within their family.. Take the time to talk to your members, say hi.. care about them..take the time to congrats them on a recent promotion.. You do that - cp or not and you are alright in my book. |
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| Reply by: Striphe at May 26, '08 14:13 | |
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| I am sure there are people out there who are biding their time and ranking a little bit higher and then they will take CP out. All we can do is wait until tat or those persons avhieve their goal. Something is in the pipeline, i can smell it... | |
| Reply by: Grimey at May 26, '08 15:11 | |
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| if this is how you all feel.... i am ashamed to have known you, just don't go scream and shout later on, you've made the choise..... at least most of you have | |
| Reply by: the_devil at May 26, '08 15:39 | |
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Oh and Sao, I said most of them are not good guns or rankers. It has taken them a lot more then min time, has it not? And I do hope you were are of what i was reffering to. You are the guns and the moneymakers for the CP. Why cut of the head for the body to follow when you can cut out the body and the head will smash? |
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| Reply by: the_devil at May 26, '08 15:48 | |
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