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| Have your words fallen on deaf ears? | Started by: TheLoveDoctor on Jun 17, '08 17:44 |
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TLD comes out to the streets looking to the crowd he waits before getting everyones attention and beginning his speech Hello everyone I've come out here today to try and get you thoughts on a particular subject. If anyone knows me they know communication is a big deal for me, instilled in me by my father and his father before him. So what I want to know is how much communication should there be between the boss of a family and his members? I have read in my relatives journals about times when the leaders allowed little direct communication with themselves, and everything either had to go through the chain of command or the right hand man of the family. On the other hand I have read about leaders who went out of there way and took time out of there already crowded schedules to get to know most, if not all of their family personally. Now I am a pretty hands on person I like to know who people are, where their family is from originally and try to talk with as many of them as possible. Making sure they are ok and are doing well as they make there way through this life. I don't know any other way and I am sure if I have any children they will be taught the same way. What I would like to know from you is how much communication should there be with your boss? Is there - if you were a leader yourself - any reason not to speak with people in your family? How would you feel if you were told that you are not to bother the boss and speak to the RH if you need anything? Is this common sense, after all if you have 50 people in your family, Do you think it's possible to speak with them all and keep track of what they are doing? or do you think it would be too time consuming and you would have more important things to be getting on with? I look forward to hearing your opinions on this subject. |
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Great topic and one that has been questioned threw out the years, my family generations have been in your situation before and applyed the method of actualy getting to know the family even if that impacted the amount of members my ancestors had. I personaly feel having half the max amount of members but actualy knowing them all well and having that close bond has alot more impact than a large family full of people who say and do nothing. A family that knows that infact that is what they are and not just a number will pay you back the same way with loyalty in the family and keep a much better presence in the streets. I am not questioning anyones leading methods at all since we all have our own ways of dealing things but in an overal summery I would much rather know who I have in my family and put in that extra effort of getting to know them all. just my two cents worth TW |
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| Reply by: TrappedWind at Jun 17, '08 17:56 | |
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waits until there is a lull in the conversation before speaking I think with anything else, maintaining communication with members as a leader should be done in a way that doesn't disrupt the daily routine. For most leaders, they start off with a small group of people. Since that is their core group, it's important that they know what sort of people they are, and they get to know who you as a leader are and what to expect from the family. That's why in most cases when a leader first sets up,it takes them a little bit longer to start speaking in public. But if leaders take that initial time , when the family grows the more experienced members can handle things like disputes between two goombas and the like, leaving leaders extra time to get to know their new members. If a leader spend too much time talking to members and not doing what he or she is supposed to do as a leader (and public figure), then the organization suffers. Sometimes members don't realize that even though there is nothing wrong with occasional shoot-the-breeze mails, when 30 people are doing the same thing, it boggles the leader down. And if leaders don't spend enough time, the obvious result is that members don't feel like a single unit, just everyone for themselves. I think the key to balancing this is to have set rules and to enforce the chain of command for non emergency situations. That way the leader can have time to get to know members without it hurting the organization as a whole. I think with 50 members max within a single building should be a good size for a leader to get to know most, if not all of the members. With organization, I believe a leader can have 200 members and know things about them; that is if they have a good structure (i.e. RH, UB, Capos, etc). One thing that I have experienced in the past and did not like is when I gave a leader donations, and never received any response in return. It bothers me because if I am giving a gift, the polite thing would be to say "Thank you". You could argue that a leader doesn't have to say thank you. Okay then, but what about just to acknowledge that it was received? I think no matter how busy a leader is, you should always let members know that you have received their donations. |
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| Reply by: Kira_Esposito at Jun 17, '08 20:23 | |
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That is a very good question TLD. My Thinking on it, is that i too think that you should get to know your crew members. But not carry such a large family till you gain the trust of your family and your crew. This being said i think once you can find that trust you then can expaned your numbers so that you dont get to overwhelm to you get upset or fustrated and not be the best that you can be....This to is just my two cents but i hope i brought some light to help out at all. Slevin |
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| Reply by: LuckySlevin at Jun 17, '08 20:32 | |
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*Looks around, clears his throat, straightens his tie and speaks* Well, while I was reading through my own fathers journal. He spoke very highly of the family he was in. He said that they had a very high level of communication and he enjoyed it. He always wanted his leaders to know that if the communication was cut short on their end that he understood. I also agree with Kira on that leaders should at least give a simple "thanks" for the donations. On another note, why would you want to die for someone you have never talked to? It seems silly to ask for loyalty to the death and you dont even take the time to say a hello in passing from time to time to the people who are supposed to lay down their life for the family. Communication is great. It builds, trust, morale and loyalty. I do understand being bogged down by mail. But I am quite sure that if you have been very open and made the effort to talk to the people in your family, that your family would understand completely if you happen to be busy once and a while. Thank you for your ears. |
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| Reply by: Nagasaki at Jun 17, '08 21:39 | |
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| I enjoy a lot of communication. Lets me know that our Boss actually cares about us =) | |
| Reply by: Mr_Corleone at Jun 18, '08 02:01 | |
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I have always thought that the boss has alot of shit on his/her plate everyday. He has a RHW/RHM and a family structure so he/she can focus on keeping everyone alive. But my ancestor had a family he was very communitive with his family.The family has to realize though that the boss may get busy and i mean busy for up to a week at a time and have to play catch up with their family...this is why the structure is in place. smaller families may eleviate the problem slightly as well.I would not be able to ay unless ai experienced it myself. |
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| Reply by: WhiskerBiscuit at Jun 18, '08 02:11 | |
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| I think having a fairly open communication style with the leaders is okay, but it's important to keep in mind how many messages the leaders go through and not inundate them with idle chatter. But each family has their own style and trying to make the leaders behave in cookie-cutter manners kind of defeats the purpose of authing different people. | |
| Reply by: JarJarBinks at Jun 18, '08 03:15 | |
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I understand the boss would have little time for the minions in the family. But i think it encourages people, when they are just small time crooks. It makes the look up their boss, and want to serve them well, so contact is very important in my opinion. |
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| Reply by: Oranje at Jun 18, '08 11:26 | |
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She waits until people have finished speaking and steps forward a bit I have to say that I agree with Kira 100% on this one. It's all about balance and priorities. Yes, I do believe that a leader should be someone you feel that you actually know and not someone you just work for. However I do know that they are quite busy and do not have a whole lot of time for idle chit chat. You cannot have too much of either side which makes being a leader a very difficult job. My ancestors have been in families that had all three scenarios. Some were very open and friendly, would sit and talk all day long if you wanted. However, did not accomplish much as an actual leader. Others were very aloof to their "employees" unless you were in the upper structure, and even then you had to virtually make an appointment to speak with them at any length. I have read however that there have been some great leaders out there, just a few that figured that equation out and got the balance right on the money. I realize that nobody is perfect and it's certainly not a perfected system we work on, but I applaud the leaders that do strive for that balance. I do agree that when you donate your hard earned money, you are entitled to acknowledgment at least. I understand that we are working for our leaders so the money you earn is actually theirs. However, as my grandmother used to tell me, you catch more bees with honey then with vinegar. |
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| Reply by: Heather_Corleone at Jun 18, '08 13:38 | |
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| communicate is cerainly one of the most important things. for us to really be la cosa nostra we have to find a way to be, sanctified in our actions. | |
| Reply by: Paulo_Filho at Jun 18, '08 16:59 | |
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