This is not an argument. This is a public place for people to express their opinions and it won't be you that will tell me where the fuck I can or cannot express what I wish.

If you don't wish people to express their opinions because they may differ with what you deem correct, then don't come to the streets. If you got an issue with what I say, take it to my leader.

Couple of things here.

One, constantly stating LV members should be up for grabs shortly after our leader passed is going to start an arguement. Two, an arguement is "An exchange of diverging or opposite views," and your testament to what's happening is an argument. Three, it's common courtesy not to start arguements in the Protection Lists after an accident. Finally, not sure why you're so upset and throwing around that kind of language around because someone asked you to respect LV's loss and take this to another street corner.

Well maybe that was a bad example as I wasn't privy to the full details. However the point still stands they should be able to go where they wish rather than be told to join an Las Vegas based family.

This discussion takes nothing away from the protection order so why you believe we should go start a discussion elsewhere is beyond me. Had Romeo not implied that people had to join a Vegas family I wouldn't have brought up this point.

Constantly stating? That was my first appearance here? I'm allowed to state my opinion wherever I wish to do so. If stating my opinion causes an argument, oh well, I'm not bothered really.

This place is not appropriate to discuss a subject that is relevant? I was under the impression that the place to pay respect and not argue was at the funeral. The streets are the place to discuss and talk about subjects that are relevant to the original speech.

I didn't come here to be courteous, I came here to give my opinion.

Farmer_Barleymow pulls up right between the feuding feudsters

A lady died.  Some of her friends and fellow citizens of Las Vegas came to the streets to make sure their friends were looked after.  What you're debating or arguing about now bears no real relation to the original premise.

Can I plant my crops here or what?  Skidaddle city dwellers.

Barleymow puts his plough down near tha arguers feet.

La Casa Rossa has been notified. My deepest respect and sympathy to Betsy_Poke and the city of Las Vegas

If this happened in any other city, I doubt we would be hearing any complaints. Maybe the issue here is that people from LV, after reaching a long state of stability, don't like being reminded they are not their own city until they have a GF. Throw in the mix that the person who happens to have wacked back is the very person that was going to make all that go away and you can understand how people saying LV members should be able to flee to other cities could rub them the wrong way.

We all may have the right to express our opinions. That doesn't mean that anywhere, anytime, is the best course of action.

Specially when it seems to be for arguement's sake. Or did anybody have a specific member of LV in mind to snatch into their own crew?

From a distance, Stamina approaches the gathering crowd and looks around while taking in what has been mentioned

It was only a little while ago that I awoke to see the news of the new arrival in the obits. It seemed like only moments before I had been speaking to Betsy regarding a member of The Muppets, to see the recent developments is a bit of a shock to the system. I will shortly be visiting the grave of Betsy to pay my respect in a traditional way, as many generations before have done so.

Stamina bows his head for a second before taking a step forward

The original purpose of the speech here was indeed to ensure people were aware of the homeless mobsters we should be expecting to see walking our streets shortly, I fully believe that point was made well and nobody would want to argue that. To suggest that we are now seeing a debate of something that had nothing to do with the original premise is a little misleading though. "The Muppets will be rehoused in Las Vegas" suggests to me that this isn't a topic which had been randomly introduced to the conversation.

Betsy has unfortunately passed, nothing that could be said here will change this. The former members though have a choice they can make regarding their future I feel. Do they join another crew within the city of their former leader, or should they leave to find a new organisation elsewhere where they may already have made connections through business? From my understanding Las Vegas had been running on the basis that there would be no city leader and it was made up of several different crews doing their own thing, working side by side for a peaceful existence. I don't see why a member who had joined Betsy should be forced to join another leader, surely they only swore loyalty to Betsy and not to any other leader that had been there at the time.

This also begs the question, do you really want to keep someone around that wants to go elsewhere?

Stamina looks down at his feet, confident there is nothing there to obstruct him, he walks back in the direction he came from...

SRRY FOR THE LOSS OF A GOOD PERSON RIP..

Let's just clear a few things up.


Yes... This is a very trying time for us in Las Vegas. It is painfully reminding me of the loss of my former leader Animal and I am not the only one feeling this anguish. People of Betsy's family are indeed free to join anywhere they do so wish with out any infraction from Las Vegas. We will not hunt them, ask for their death or their demotions. Hell, one of our Wise Guys has even joined up with LargeHamster in Detroit and is now pimped out in a nice slanty suit.

With all that said, I am happy with the fact that the majority of Muppets have indeed joined a Las Vegas family. We may be a rag tag bunch of criminals who are set in a different light than the rest of this country but we have all formed a strong bond with one another. This bond is greater than just the upper echelon of the city but stems right down in to the associate trees aswell. We are a Crime Syndicate. We may not have an out and out leader but we deal with business in a way that we see fit and a way that has so far worked tremendously well.

There are but a few more Muppets to still awake. I am fairly confident that they will return to an LV family and that this debate will be un-needed.


Rest in peace Betsy_Poke.

LargeHamster walks out into the streets after heading his name mentioned

It is another sad day for Las Vegas it must be very hard with the amount of losses the city has seen of later but i do think vegas has the leaders that can push it through to the other side and bring prosperity to the city as we have seen over the last few monthes.

However Mr Jelly whom is the slanty from vegas in my family that you are refering too as to my knowledge i havent had a hand from Las vegas?

Heh, my apologies LargeHamster. It has been a trying day and I have been drinking Betsy's secret stash sinse she won't be needing it anymore.

Was a simple mis-understanding.