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| A Lose Lose Situation | Started by: Animal on Jul 06, '08 20:35 |
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I think the title speaks volumes. You all want some explanation right? Some closure or feeling of knowing? Well let me say this, There is saying that i have put together and it shows true every time something like this happens. "The reasons or excuses, no matter how justified or made up; no matter how twisted or blunt or honest or false they are; are never EVER good enough for the losing side." My bloodline has been on the losing side of many wars. And I am sure we have all had that moment where we thought to ourselves "I don't care why they did it, it still pisses me off." For those of you whose parents died, for those that had to speak at funerals, for those that laid a rose on the chest of someone you'll never see again, to you I know no matter what I say it won't be enough, it never is. But, there are some that scream for an answer, out of pain and hurt they just want to know... What the FUCK just happened? And to those i can understand, so here is my best way of putting it. There were some things that as a leader Jonnie just couldn't do. Now I will not go into details as there are some of you out there that will simply tell me i am wrong. His family was slowly getting out of hand, and there was no one to control it. There where some poor decisions made by his members on a few occasions. And there were a few worse decisions made by him. I can say it did hurt to have to end the lives of Jonnie Reese and the New York outfit because I was close to them, but it doesn't change the fact that what's bad for business is, well, bad for business. Hopefully some where down the line people will learn from there mistakes, as I am sure i will too, no one is perfect. My son will learn from the things i did wrong and life will move on. The only thing we can hope for is trying to create a brighter tomorrow. Thank you for taking the time to hear me out. I have some pressing matters to attend to and i wish you all the best. <3 Animal |
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| well said sir, i'd take my hat off to you, but im not wearing one | |
| Reply by: telkin at Jul 06, '08 21:48 | |
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I for one am not unfamiliar to being on the loosing side of a war or battle. As my father was a fairly high ranked member of Jonnies family. I have sourness towards the thing as a whole. But I do honour the way you stood up to what you thought was right, and fought for what you believed in. Bravo. |
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| Reply by: Jaybee at Jul 06, '08 22:32 | |
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| Well you certainly know my feelings towards the deceased,but I am sure even he would say that shit was heading south.He was taken down and that was that.It happens around here.I just wanna say let us not forget what he did for all of us,and may he rest in peace. | |
| Reply by: Domino at Jul 06, '08 22:54 | |
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I'm just a new guy around here and have no history, no knowledge of generations past. I understand that disagreements, occasional acts of aggression, and sometimes even all-out wars will occur. I did not ask for details or explanations; I simply wanted to know what the hell happened. And now I do. Thank you sir. I truly appreciate being informed. Respectfully, Mac |
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| Reply by: Mac_Morrelli at Jul 06, '08 23:32 | |
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Basically, Johnny_Reese was a tyrannical pervert who rose up due to a glitch and thought he was better than everyone so he tried to let his family bend the rules, such as killing innocent unsponsoreds under 48 hours with no repercussion. He also tried to dictate policy to the other families, which tends not to go over very well in the long run. So the long and the short of it is: He made some good advances for people who didn't like CP by getting insanely lucky and unknowingly exploiting a glitch, then he managed to come back and rise up with beefed-up stats and become a CL again. And he made a lot of stupid decisions, Johnny being Johnny, and Animal got fed up with him, so he took him out 'old skool! Viva la glitch-a-lucion! I wish I had a glitch work for me sometime. :/ |
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| Reply by: ZzTop at Jul 07, '08 00:19 | |
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Violence is a common practice in our world and so is protecting your assets and family. You did both from what you tell and I can respect that. A lot of good people died and it saddens me, but one thing I noticed which is most respected: You could have had many more mafioso killed - and you didnt. A mafioso who understands the power he controls and also understands how to holster his emotions in the battlefield is much more a respected mafioso then a trigger happy leader who cannot accept innocents alive. You allowed many to live, thus showing respect for our world but also while getting business taken care of. Jonnie was a infamous ruthless killer, and will be remembered for what he did for our world and respected. Pours out a bottle of his finest liquor into the street for Jonnie and others..watching as the alcohol mixes with some blood in the street gutter |
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| Reply by: Alonzo at Jul 07, '08 01:31 | |
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| You are all bitches no matter what you say!!!!! bitches!!!! | |
| Reply by: ZzTop at Jul 07, '08 04:03 | |
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Except the last comment by Mr./Ms./Mrs. Top you guys are all right about the situation. I really respect both sides, Mr. Reese, may he rest in peace, for fighting a good fight against CP. Very impressive I have to say. He will surly be remembered for this. Mr. Animal for standing up for his family and his believes. You really need balls to do so and for giving an explanation and accepting and understanding the grieves of the losing side. It's always hard to be on the losing side and I agree with Mr. Animal, the explanations and/or excuses can never be good enough. But Mr. Animal proved that he's worthy of the rank Don and I hope he'll have a bright future. Regards, Sal Licata |
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| Reply by: Salvatore_Licata at Jul 07, '08 05:27 | |
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How was it a good fight? He took advantage of an error from the gods. Anyone could have done it. This much has been establised. Remembered for being grated super powers...right...I think he would rather be remembered for his short but active and outgoing leadership time which although controversial was interesting to watch. All of the above sounds like win win to me tbh. |
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| Reply by: Vivat at Jul 07, '08 08:22 | |
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How in fuck would anyone know about this "glitch"? you asshats who like to hate,keep dropping the ball in your blatant whinefests that you tend to drown yourselves in. NOBODY knew of the "glitch"! My ancestor and Jonnie_Reese decided to DO SOMETHING! While everyone else sat on their asses and bitched and complained about how it was impossible to do anything under CP rule. We did not think we would get very far,but when you have a plan and it seems to keep working,do you stop and think about whether or not your kill was legit? I seriously fucking doubt it,so stop the bitching and complaining.As far as I am concerned showing disrespect to the fallen in the streets is the same as disrespect in a funeral.And that is NEVER a good thing for those guilty of it.I would hope that all leaders would make the same decision in this matter. Have a nice day! |
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| Reply by: Domino at Jul 07, '08 15:26 | |
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Apart from this Zztop fella no-one has shown disrespect. No doubt you had a plan and I agree, I would have kept shooting. But facts or facts. He shot CP when a Godly error had left them weaker than they should have been. Thats all anyone has pointed out. |
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| Reply by: Bloody at Jul 07, '08 15:38 | |
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Something to remember: The "Glitch" left ALL crew leaders vulnerable in the same exact manner. The fact that all of the leaders of one side perished and the others survived is the reason the tide changed. RIP to a great warrior who left his mark on our generation and will not easily be forgotten. |
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| Reply by: Demeter at Jul 07, '08 15:45 | |
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Text makes his way forward to see if the Don, Animal, will hear his words. Don Animale, or Animal if you prefer. Being new to these shores, my opinion will be short and sweet. I appreciate you issuing a response to the events that had taken place. Whatever your reasons, I felt your explanation was sincere. You leaders are put in a difficult decision and you can't please everyone. Judging from the responses, it appears that this world has lost a great fighter and that is a shame. But nevertheless, thank you for taking the time to address the issue. Text makes his way back to the back of the crowd, hopefully to eavesdrop on other conversations taking place. |
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| Reply by: TextBasedMafiaRPG at Jul 07, '08 17:07 | |
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