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| Time to stop the killing | Started by: Ace_Rimmer on Jul 12, '08 07:48 |
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Ace steps out into the streets with a gaunt look on his face. Ok Skulls is right, enough is enough. It's time to end this & not with my bloodlines normal way of ending wars. It's time to offer an olive branch, I have sent Mr Corleone telegram asking if we can meet for talks. This war has ravaged our community, what was supposed to be a quick & easy takedown ordered by my former Boss Don Animal has gone on for over 30 hours. It's time to stop and take a look at what has happened to our community, we are left with two leaders who are not involved in this war for new people to join & they have all the members they can take, which means people will have to join families who are already at war and so fueling the fire. I have ordered my family to cease fire on Mr corleone's, I will not be shooting any of his members untill we have met and come to a discision. Also I am trying to move my HQ out of his city but I am waiting on city hall. |
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It's refreshing to hear that someone is thinking about the community, rather than thier bruised ego. Just a quick question: Are you really doing this to stop the bloodshed or are you trying to call a truce because you have so far been unsuccessful in killing Corleone and fear that you maybe the next name on his list? Just a question. |
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| Reply by: DrBunsenHoneydew at Jul 12, '08 07:54 | |
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| Was asked and answered in the coffeeshops. I think you two should duel. | |
| Reply by: Sc0pe_D0pe at Jul 12, '08 07:55 | |
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Yes but the streets are more important than the coffee shops so I will let everyone here know. Am I afraid he can hit me? No I know for a fact he can yet I'm still standing after over 30 hours because he hasn't even gotten a shot off at me and I can quite easily continue evading his shot untill I hit him. But I want to end this here and now, if this war carries on there will be no where but warring families to join for god knows how long. And if Mr Corleone does continue to fight then what? Alessia dies, Hampster dies & if he gets a shot off I die? thats 125 less places for new people to join. |
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| Reply by: Ace_Rimmer at Jul 12, '08 08:01 | |
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My boss has come to the streets today to try to stop the ongoing war between Former La Casa Ombra and Mr Corleone. Corleone was simply sticking up for his family, and now that most of La Casa Ombra is dead, Mr Rimmer is thinking of his own family and the families of others by saying there will be no more shooting. Why put so many innocent people in danger, because of one little misunderstanding? Because all of you want to see the glory of the kill. You want to see more and more leaders fall, you don't care about their families, or them personally. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. I congratulate Mr Rimmer, boss, on taking a step forward into rebuilding stable streets. Thank You Ace_Rimmer. |
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| Reply by: PellucciDiaz at Jul 12, '08 08:01 | |
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I think this would be in the best interest, not only for the community but both sides have families that they need to take care of, not to mention like Ace_Rimmer said the new thugs coming into this world have no where to go except to just jump back into the cross fire, over the last hours I have spoken with people who ask if they could make room in my family for them. I am truly sorry and as much as I would love to I cannot, we need more then ever for this to stop and the community build. We are trying to work out a cease-fire and after speaking with Ace_Rimmer I'm glad he was the first to agree to make this decision. Maybe we just need more communication instead of popping off rounds every time we have an issue, sometimes its called for, but this is not going to bring anyone back or save anyone both sides are just going to keep taking hits until yes one side is going to fall, but look at the cost...It's a deadly chain reaction... Thanks, DaKine |
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| Reply by: DaKine at Jul 12, '08 08:07 | |
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| I don't care to see some glory shot, but you have to remember Ace_Rimmer is still a rogue. No CL has authed him and until then he is seen as nothing more than a rogue. Mr_Corleone was however authed. Yes authed as a captain but he took Vic_Mackeys place. No one seemed upset with it until the rogue's popped up and Alessia and LargeHamster joined the the fight against Mr_Corleone. Mr_Corleone has taken no pro wack's he has tried ending this quickly. It is your boss that has though. If he wants it over he took the risk of a lifetime setting up. So why not take that chance of his life if he setup believing he could kill him then do it? Take the shot and Corleone shoots back. My father and grandfather served with every rogue that setup and LargeHamster. My great grandfather served under Alessia, but I have my own beliefs. Duel and end this. One walks away one doesn't... it's life. | |
| Reply by: Sc0pe_D0pe at Jul 12, '08 08:09 | |
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| You talk of rogues yet I see no evidence of the current CL's offically authing Mr Corleone to stay a leader, I also see none of Skulls or Iris' hit squad hunting me. Further more the only officaly authed leader in this war is Alessia & her captain, so if I were to become her second captain that would make me legitimate. | |
| Reply by: Ace_Rimmer at Jul 12, '08 08:36 | |
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| My father was a member of one of those neutral families, who was, I assume, kicked out of the organization and subsequently executed to make space for someone else to be housed. I think this proposal should be given serious consideration. | |
| Reply by: AngeloCarcomo at Jul 12, '08 08:57 | |
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Scope, first of all I'll addresss you - you have no way of knowing what goes one behind the crewleader's meeting room doors The 3 now dead and Ace were going to be authed as soon as the "dust" had settled - odd way to put it but I know of no other Ace, I truly agree with you, tho not in the way Skulls approached it. We need to be able to take in people and it's not fair to them to have to join and in 24 hours be in danger. After what you said in the coffeeshops this morning and thinking about it as well as talking it over with my advisors, if Mr Corleone agrees, then I do, would agree to extend the olive branch. So, I guess now, we wait and see what he has to say. And before anyone says it, no he has not gotten a shot at me yet either, which I suppose puts me in the same category as those Skulls called pussies as I am using pros, not to save my own skin - of course that partly but between me and my captain we have over 70 members who would then be homeless. I would however point out, this is an unusual situation and will not be setting a precedent for the next Captain who decides to set up after his leader is killed. Each case would be looked at differently. I personally admire Mr Corleone's loyalty and courage in continuing this fight in his family's name, as I do Ace and may they rest in peace, King Kobra, Kira and Rawr |
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| Reply by: Alessia at Jul 12, '08 10:02 | |
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I stand by Alessias decision and no member of mine will shoot at any of Mr_Corleone's members. The Bloodshed has gone on long enough and its about time it cametoan end. the ceasefire is towards his Members aswell as Mr_Corleone. If i catch any of my members shooting at any sponsered they will be dealt with. |
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| Reply by: LargeHamster at Jul 12, '08 10:23 | |
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| Authed as soon as the "dust" settled. As far as I've seen... dust hasn't settled yet. Maybe it will, maybe we will have peace again without having to cope with new leader's. Then again I'm just a gangster, what do I know? | |
| Reply by: Sc0pe_D0pe at Jul 12, '08 10:59 | |
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Skulls steps out onto the sidewalk looking up at Mr. Rimmer I applaud you're hospitality Ace, but word is that you shot at Mr. Corleone a third time when i had offered you a chance at the olive branch, either you didn't get my telegram in time, or this is just politics. It's not for me to decide, but just my thoughts and feelings. I like to interject every now and then. I guess this will all be decided on how willing Corleone is and how good his day has been going. From the looks of it, he's had a hell of a night. |
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| Reply by: Skulls at Jul 12, '08 12:07 | |
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First of all, bit of a giggle at you coming out to say the first line of your speech. As far as I'm aware, the only foe you have is Mr.Corleone; him being still alive, I'm assuming the only killing you've done is of an inconsequential nature. Secondly, it's a shame that the vast majority have swallowed this bullshit about caring about the community. If you really cared for the community, a very simple solution is staring me in the face. Auth someone to cope with new numbers. If this proves to be absolutely impossible (which it isn't), simply instigate some sort of protection system. Allow new members to be under your protection and keep an updated list of mobsters who are under your protection at any time. A fundamentally easy concept to grasp really. No, this move is one of cowardice because you're afraid of getting shot. Self preservation at it's most startlingly obvious. Not much wrong with that, unless you had previously claimed your actions of going bold and so on were out of loyalty to your fallen leader. Oh wait, lolz. Bit of a slap in Don Animal's face there, rest his soul. Captains, incidentally, have been left alive after their leader has died before an have naturally fallen into the roles of leadership. Even if the current leaders disagree with that practice, a precedent has been set; and even having been authed as a Captain by his late leader grants him a great deal more legitimacy than you have had at any stage of this conflict. |
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| Reply by: Branston at Jul 12, '08 13:51 | |
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Both Ace and Alessia are cowards to stop the fighting now. Ace is a Rogue, and as far as auth goes for Mr_Corleone, As Captain, he's the 2nd ranked person in Vic's family. With Vic's death, he naturally assumes the position of leader, so whomever attempts to question his auth is ignorant, stupid, and desperate. My ancestors twice in this war for nothing more than being a gangster and I find it hard to stomach the cowardly way that both Ace (a definite rogue) and Alessia (a long-time coward) are trying to spin this war. Bottom line: If they duel with Mr_Corleone, they're afraid they'll die like everyone else. What happened to all the big talk from people with actual guns? All of them are dead yet Mr_Corleone still stands. This is nothing more than a smoke tactic so they can regroup and relaunch later on. And knowing Alessia and the decisions her bloodline has continually made, I wouldn't ever trust anything she says as it's always been some form of a venomous lie unless dealing with the underground Manannovis. If you're really concerned about the good of the community, then kill the rogue Ace_Rimmer or force him to disband immediately and choose new leaders as a counsel of the actual authed leaders. |
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| Reply by: x__O at Jul 12, '08 15:00 | |
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No quarter for Ace_Rimmer! He set up without auth in Mr_Corleone's home city with one and only purpose: To kill Mr_Corleone. LA is run by Mr_Corleone and I don't see any more blatant act of disrespect and war than to set up a HQ on someone else's home turf. And if you're going to do it, you ought to be man enough to finish the job. But you've been hiding behind pro shots and now are afraid for your life. Well let me tell you something: You involved the lives of dozens and dozens of others. You helped litter the streets with blood--of people that had nothing to do with the war except for being in a family you didn't approve of. And now, you act for clemency after going rogue, setting up for war in someone else's home city, and basically realizing that you'd bitten off way more than you could chew. Well, there's one way someone like you can regain his honor. Suicide. It worked really well for the Japanese but I doubt you have that much courage. |
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| Reply by: x__O at Jul 12, '08 15:30 | |
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FlyingPig beats his head against a wall repeated There is so much I could say about the entire state of affairs right now, it would take an eternity. I know we don't have the most experienced group at the top right now, but seriously, Baby Jesus is actually crying tears of blood at the moment. Cease-fires do not work. Never have, never will. The mere suggestion of it is an insult to the intelligence of those involved. It is usually a manipulation tactic to get someone to lower their defenses. In any case, it is a temporary cease fire, because the things that started the war do not dissipate after a truce. It is like remarrying a spouse that you previously divorced. It never works. In this case, there seems to be an assumption that a cease fire will result in the current rogues being authed. I'm not necessarily against this idea, but it certainly is not a foregone conclusion. As far as I know, contrary to what Alessia stated, the authing of the rogues was "suggested", but not "decided". I could be wrong, since I stay out of most inter-city affairs for my own sanity. The reason neutral families have not attacked anyone for being rogue is because there is an understood exception to the "rogue" phenomenon that when a leader dies in a war, those who continue to fight on his behalf can use any tools at their disposal, including the purchasing of real estate, so long as it is understood the purchase is temporary and only for the purpose of the war. It seems as if some of these rogues made long-term plans from the moment they set up their HQ's. That's a bit presumptive and disrespectful to all the legitimate leaders who jointly decide who should fill the empty cities. If Alessia were to make Ace a Captain, that would make him a legitimate Captain, not a legitimate crewleader. Try to remember the difference. But this is all irrelevant, anyhow, because Ace (and his allies) and Mr Corleone are involved in a war, and wars do not end simply because someone is tired of fighting them. There can be only one end once the wheels are put in motion. Only one side can emerge standing. I should state that I hope your reasons here are those you stated, Ace, but I am skeptical. A coward dies a thousand deaths. A soldier dies but one. |
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| Reply by: FlyingPig at Jul 12, '08 15:45 | |
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Thank you for the offer, but I will have to decline. Reasoning? Jul 12, '08 06:49 a_mrmeerci tried to WACK! you. Ace_Rimmer Jul 11, '08 18:35 liaases tried to WACK! you. Alessia Jul 11, '08 14:34 maeie_mrrc tried to WACK! you. Ace_Rimmer Jul 11, '08 00:25 ecreimm_ra tried to WACK! you. Ace_Rimmer I cannot forgive and forget so easily. What kind of Leader would I be if I let you push me around like this? Quit hiding behind your pros, it will only drag this out longer. |
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| Reply by: Mr_Corleone at Jul 12, '08 18:15 | |
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| Mr_Corleone, my respect for you has gone up 10,000,000 times, and I liked you before. | |
| Reply by: x__O at Jul 12, '08 20:07 | |
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