Falcon is right, I would suggest reading more on Omerta and La Cosa Nostrato get some tips :)

Fellas, my bloodline has included CLs, RHMs, LHMs, the whole nine yards.  Yeah, it's nice kicking back and making millions a day, but I place the ideals that make this place good above my own personal gain.  Roman, and to a lesser extent Prem, were selfish, selfish, selfish and almost ruined this community.  This seems to be forgotten about now.  The Winter of Discontent didn't come out of nowhere, it came out of the tyrannical lock-down and oppression that was the norm.  It was a society that was unhappy and shrinking.

Prem will take us there again.  His bloodline CANNOT be allowed to do this.

I will continue to prevent it, whatever the cost.

I would say to the community, as I said to those who have joined  DNO: "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.

Meanwhile, DNO should prepare itself for hard and heavy tidings. I have only to add that nothing which may happen in this battle can in any way relieve us of our duty to defend the community cause to which we have vowed ourselves; nor should it destroy our confidence in our power to make our way, as on former occasions in our history, through disaster and through grief to the ultimate defeat of our enemies.

Even though large tracts of the six cities and many old and famous bloodlines have fallen or may fall into the grip of Prem and all the odious apparatus of his bloodline, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in New York, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend ourselves, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender

"Roman, and to a lesser extent Prem, were selfish, selfish, selfish and almost ruined this community."
"It was a society that was unhappy and shrinking."

Yeah when they were godfathers we had 8 full cities with few crews in each of them,we had more people then we have now and no matter who is running show there will be always unhappy people, not always same persons but you simply cant make everyone happy.


"I would say to the community, as I said to those who have joined DNO: "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat."

You forgot one more thing. Your stupid speeches on streets.

Gomez, anyone can say my bloodline this and that, but your not exactly telling us who they were. You speak in some OOC form mentioning the community and how one bloodline has affected the whole thing. I would very much doubt that.

My family history has seen many wars, big names such as SamTheAmericanEagle, Father John & Ellis. BA go and kill loads of CL's, then there was MrEvilman and UncleNicky, men of power that ruled these shores with a fear that was impressive. There have been many stories like it since and I am sure will be in the future. In our Mafia life we are not a democratic, we are a life of power and corruption, if the masses are not happy with how things are run then they take charge and " step up " and remove it. There is no vote or election, it is how things are done, we show we have the minerals to do it and thats how you get respect not by having a secret group hiding in the shadows where you will become despised. 

For whatever Prem's faults in the past, his current ability, his future.. he isn't hiding, he is standing for all to see, I respect that, you Sir are merely just the messenger, so how can you expect us to respect that?

You're absurd, an unpredictable nuissance. You talk to much that's the problem. Fancy your words. But please kindly switch on the button underneath your illusive brain.

"There is no vote, no election"

Exactly, there is the rule of the gun.  That's what I am doing: using the gun to shape society.  As do others. 

I don't want Prem's bloodline to go bold.  I'll lay my life on the line to prevent it.  I work hard to prevent it.  Those that support him, in my opinion, should be made to pay.  I'll make them pay.

For those that cry and whine about bloodline hunting - ask yourself this: would you shoot a Kuklinski on sight?  Or would you like to?

And as for Prem - the biggest bloodline hunting nut ever witnessed.

Have my sympathy and give no quarter.  His relatives have never.

"Exactly, there is the rule of the gun. That's what I am doing: using the gun to shape society."

hahahahah cmon what gun?? you had character shot prem and died you think anyone will let you live more than 48 hours and let you train gun

"Those that support him, in my opinion, should be made to pay. I'll make them pay."

I support premeir and would love to see him going bold again and make me "pay" if you can.

Donnie, I specialise in making people look ridiculous on the Streets.  In your case, I don't think I'll bother.

No need mr. Gomez. WE know your type. tell me something. since you are "the streets most [annoying] speaker" and appaerntly quite a big man around here, why the hell is it that you have achieved NOTHING, since getting the award as the "poster boy for keeping his head down and being a little bit less rubbish then his peers"?

Gomez, I have a couple of questions for you:

Firstly; Why do you feel the need to make so many street speeches in such a short space of time? Do you not feel this to be a bit slightly over the top? If someone else were to post this many threads, we'd shout spam at them. I take it you enjoy the extra attention? Maybe you crave someone to take notice of you? Maybe this stems from a neglected childhood? Just curious, is all.

Secondly; I think you might be slightly deluded. In response to your 'ask yourself this: would you shoot a Kuklinski on sight? Or would you like to?' I think you're overestimating your infamy, you aren't a feared bloodline, you aren't an accomplished bloodline, nobody revels in the idea of killing a Kuklinski. It's all in your head. You need a rest, take a lie down, have a duvet day, maybe you'll wake up the next day thinking 'I need to stop being an attention whore, maybe there is more to life than flooding the streets with my nonsense' Give it a go, would ya?

"Firstly; Why do you feel the need to make so many street speeches in such a short space of time? Do you not feel this to be a bit slightly over the top? If someone else were to post this many threads, we'd shout spam at them.... " - SammyGarcini

It's a totally different debate, but I really want to respond to this.

Sammy, or you for real here?

"If someone else were to post this many threads, we'd shout spam at them."

Is that the reason everyone is mute and the streets are deserted? If so, I think the so-called oldtimers or we-know-it-all-been-around-for-a-long-timers should take a look in the mirror and be ashamed of themselves, because YOU are the reason the population is declining and YOU are the reason people hestitate to walk these streets and speak their mind.

To the current crewleaders I want to say this:

YOU are the people in charge, don't wait for City hall to clean up this shit put in an effort and make a change!


To all the gangsters, thugs, hoodlums and mafiosi roaming these streets:

DON'T be afraid. SPEAK YOUR MIND!!

WhereWasI sighs and turns to GaiusAdams,

Listen, you may not like the current level street activity, but this isn't fixing anything. This Kuklinski makes short appearances to do nothing but cause mayhem and if you let him, he'll find a way to get someone killed for speaking in the streets, which will further decline street activity. He's only pretending to help keep the streets active to get attention. He's done it before and he'll do it again. The only way his spamming goes away is to bring up better topics and ignore him. Furthermore, those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You could be out here making more threads for people to comment in, and you could be out here doing something. The people ignore quality topics for this slop because it's like cocaine. It gives you a huge rush at first and then you get hooked on something that kills street activity expecting everything to be "entertaining". This new definition of "entertainment" is petty unnecessary dramas that really aren't worth anyone's time but Kuklinski.

I'm going to say this once for the general public. This bloodline isn't to be treated as any other. It should be quarantined because it literally feeds on negative attention. The things it attacks others for, are the only tools it has. If he was capable of doing anything but cowardly BG shots and bloodlining young accounts he would, but he can't. Listen to JohnGalt, Don't Feed The Troll. It's looking for attention (even negative) or half-wit followers to play BG Wacker. This is one of life's few problems where ignoring it will actually make it go away. Spend the time you've been spending reading these comments doing something productive to raise street activity.

If we're being fair here, Id hardly call this thread spam. Despite the tone of the speech, he has made quality replies and defended his actions. While nearly all of us dont agree with his stance, that doesnt mean we call this spam.

WhereWasI, I agree to a certain extent.

I'm not picking a side here, and as you might have noticed I'm not even responding to his original message. Yes, it might have been better to set my soapbox at the opposite street corner. Still I'm just making a point here, in a somewhat aggresive style, yes. Though I'm not picking sides here, nor it was ever my intention to disrespect anyone.

It's hard to overcome your fear of speaking freely if people don't respect the thing you said, and start making jokes of you. That's what I'm trying to say. This has always been a problem, as long as my bloodline has wandered these streets. People can tell me I'm wrong, but none of you have or had any problems with speaking up, did you?


"If we're being fair here, Id hardly call this thread spam. Despite the tone of the speech, he has made quality replies and defended his actions. While nearly all of us dont agree with his stance, that doesnt mean we call this spam." - Falcon

Totally agree with you here. It's not all hallelujahs!

Gaius, I'd take another look at WhereWasI's comments if I were you. I do consider this 'spam', for a couple of reasons. The speeches are not bringing anything positive to the streets. A few of them are even on the same subject, along the same lines, just using different variants to create multiple scenarios, yes, to create SPAM.

So, before you attack me for not being open to what other people think, I am. I'm all for promoting street activity, I'd LOVE to see the streets buzzing again, with speeches and role plays of what is actually positive, in some form or another. Are you calling these acts of his positive? Are you supporting him? I'd hope not.

If someone were to come out here and honestly try their damnedest to contribute something to these streets, I wouldn't have a problem with it, I would NEVER try to discourage young thugs and gangsters from coming out here. It's not 'people like me' who are discouraging them, so please, retract your previous statement.

Just to clear it up for you, contributory speeches are fucking fantastic. Multiple speeches which say the same thing and offer no real contribution to the streets, equals SPAM.

Gomez has no life so he's got all this spare time to write this crap.

Actually he is dead now.

I am sure his son will pop up soon, maybe he can share his views on what a success his father was..

Sammy, I'm not supporting anyone here, just stating my opinion.

Positive or negative contribution, who's to judge? Something I might consider positive, you might find negative and vice versa. NO, I'm not talking about this speech, just about contributions to the street in general. If you don't like a speech or consider it SPAM, avoid the conversation.

As far as I know the streets are a place where everyone can speak freely. And they are big enough to not find yourself in a conversation you don't want to be in.

If people are not happy with the freedom of voice, maybe imposing censorship might be an idea. Just kill everyone who has a different opinion and the streets will never be buzzing again.

I prefer to encourage street presence, weither it be positive or negative, well or terrible written, long-winded or short, the streets, it's all about tolerance, isn't it?!

About me attacking you... Well, if the shoe fits, wear it! I asked people to look in the proverbial mirror. If you like what you see, don't be offended by it.

Who's to judge? The community, that's who! I think you'll fine that 99% of this community will agree that this is a negative contribution.

You need to get over this freedom of voice thing. Who has said there shouldn't be the freedom of speech? Has anybody suggested imposing censorship and killing everyone who has a different opinion? No. Just you. Now please, not spouting bollocks and wise up, and think about what you're saying before you let the words drop out of your mouth.

I'm sure if this guy was attacking you, or targeting every account you're ever going to make, you wouldn't be 'tolerating' it for very long.

Sammy, you're an idiot.  The Streets have been dead, now they're alive.

The Underground provides life and death.  It keeps people on their toes.  It is a force for good.

CLs, sometimes, have it too easy.  We exist to prevent this.  Whilst they claim that they don't care and aren't affected by DNO et al, the truth is that being a CL is stressful.  It is furthe stressful having to be constantly reactive, to know some of your members are working against you, to lose members, to wonder how infiltration appears to others.

Sammy, just walk on by if you don't want to talk.  You won't be missed.