With the release of the graverobbing achievement I personally believe that it would be in everyone's interests to allow any rank to graverob. Or at least get rid of the achievement. Graverobbing could be similar to pickpocketing where you have to wait an hour or so before you can do it again. I just think that it is not really fair that only a low ranked member can get the achievement but anybody past a certain rank can not. So what I am suggesting is that they either get rid of the achievement or what i personally would prefer, allow any rank to graverob.

I agree. I see it just like PPing and should take that timer. Also, like picking a pocket, it should be harder if the target is higher ranked and still protected. Perhaps grave robbing isnt great from an RP stand point; a consig robbing the grave of a deceased gangster. But thats the only downside I see.

Far as I know, the reasoning behind the rank limit is the role play side of things. Why would anyone of Made rank and above be robbing graves for a few dollars?

By that concept of course you could ask the same of Pick Pocketing, but with PPing there are a lot of other things to consider; such as how it can be used to determine a persons BG status. Grave robbing has no (known) added aspects and so its left for those of WG and below to play with.

That is the thing enkindle. the achievement came out after i was too high of a rank to get it. That is the reason i believe it to be unfair to those people. In the RP aspect of things you would think yes a don wouldn't rob a grave, however you also need to think that even a leader will do his own dirty work himself. Maybe bury a body, kill somebody, defile a grave. It may not be 100% unrealistic however it is possible for it to happen. You can't expect a leader to always send other people to do his work

so it really doesn't give any exp?

I agree that any rank should be able to graverob though. Whereas it doesn't make that much sense from an RP perspective. From a player perspective, there's nothing more annoying than having an achievement that you physically can't complete.

It has to be on the same timer as PP is (I think this it the case already anyway) and the amount of money you can take should increase with each rank. I think a Godfather robbing someone's grave, is more likely to be more thorough than a Thug, for example.

However, there should be a massive increase, as that just pumps more money into the game, something that isn't needed in the slightest.

In response to enkindle's post. It's fair enough to plan ahead and do it while you can, but what about those users that have been too high of a rank to do it since it came in? It's just going to sit there, not being complete, which, again, is frustrating as hell.

I'll be sponsoring this though.

Not a fan of this idea myself. Sure it sucks that those already above Wise Guy can't do this achievement, but a Made Man or higher wouldn't be dirtying his hands digging up dead bodies for a bit of loose change.

From the rp aspect it's unrealistic but I'm not really for the idea of losing features. There are too few as it is.

Where has there been a feature lost? Graverobbing has never been available to those Made or higher.

What I meant with losing features is that you lose a feature when you go from WG to MM. We don't have enough features as it is.

It's not as much 'losing a feature', as becoming a man of honour. Personally I would take a Made Man promotion over robbing a grave any day, because this game isn't all about being a click monkey.

Then businesses and rackets should be enabled for MM+. I've read that's being coded in so I guess it's just a matter of time.

I can agree with DeadlySin here, in that from a role play sense, a Made Man and up wouldn't be getting his hands dirty to dig up bodies to steal from. However, since it's now an achievement, my only question is... Are there any other achievements that are rank only achievable? If not, then I might not be opposed to this suggestion.

Although technically yes there are rank only achievements it really depends on how good your gun is. Like taking out Tyler, Marla, or Robert. And as long as you have a good gun any rank can shoot them. Other then that i can not really think of any achievement that requires a certain rank to complete. Well other then the OC achievements but i wouldnt count those as a rank only achievement

You have to get Made Man to get some achievements too, and even higher ranks to unlock others. Graverobbing is the only achievement that if you rank up you can't finish it.. I honestly don't see how it's an issue.

While I agree from a roleplay perspective that it's kind of silly to start digging graves past made man, it's really up to them whether they want to risk/waste an hour of their timer on doing such a mundane feature. Plus, it doesn't really make sense that a feature disappears just from your rank - I can't think of anything else in the game that is reserved for people of lower rank.