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Happy Thanksgiving Started by: Lamby on Nov 21, '12 23:21

There wasnt a thread for this yet and i wont be around tomorrow so i am starting it. Feel free to tell us what you are thankful for.

I am thankful for my family. They saved me from a life of drugs, gangs, and violence when they adopted me.

May you all enjoy the holidays and dont forget to tell your loved ones how important they are to you.

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Thanksgiving is a day for me  to focus on all I have to be thankful for. It is also a reminder to not take the daily blessings I receive, small or big for granted. Everyone have a safe and happy holiday.

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Happy fuckin Turkey Day. Enjoy the time with your friends and loved ones.

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I'm thankful I wasn't born an Indian in 1700's, drugs, and spray paint.

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You've got a good point there. Bad times for them Indians in the 1700s.

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Why would you want to celebrate a day were they slaughtered the Native Americans? By the way, 'indian' means savage.

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Im thankful for turbos, nitrous, superchargers, prochargers, firearms, and family...and the umm little bit of freedom we have these days.

My grandmother is full blooded Cherokee so I dont really care about this "holiday" but its nice for getting together with family. Maybe not celebrate its past but its present.

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Because we're a bunch of dickheads koolkat.

An estimated 10 - 140 million deaths of Native Americans are directly linked to US actions. Compare that to the Holocaust's 6 - 10 million, and let that sink in for a couple of seconds.

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I don't really know much about Thanksgiving. It's not something we celebrate in England, and after FartBarf's and koolkat's comments I thought I would read up on it.

Granted this only comes from wikipedia, but still...

Prayers of thanks and special thanksgiving ceremonies are common among almost all religions after harvests and at other times. The holiday's history in North America is rooted in English traditions dating from the Protestant Reformation. It also has aspects of a harvest festival, even though the harvest in New England occurs well before the late-November date of the holiday



Judging by the information at hand, Thanksgiving actually originated in England, and has nothing to do with any deaths.

I then looked at the American history of Thanksgiving... again this is from wikipedia...

In the United States, the modern Thanksgiving holiday tradition is commonly, but not universally, traced to a poorly documented 1621 celebration at Plymouth in present-day Massachusetts. The 1621 Plymouth feast and thanksgiving was prompted by a good harvest.



As you can see, it's about a good harvest... not about deaths.

I read on in the article further:

Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving Day, currently celebrated on the fourth Thursday in November by federal legislation in 1941, has been an annual tradition in the United States by presidential proclamation since 1863 and by state legislation since the Founding Fathers of the United States. Historically, Thanksgiving began as a tradition of celebrating the harvest of the year.



Again, nothing about Native Americans or the killing of them.

Just figured I'd throw in my two cents on this one.

I hope people enjoyed their celebrations.

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The Natives taught the settlers everything they knew about harvests.

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And somewhere down the line in school, I could be wrong, I heard of a feast with the pilgrims and indians at the same table. Which was considered one of the first Thanksgiving's in America.

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It's a day of mourning for the Native Americans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uogm71UVpMk

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"The Natives taught the settlers everything they knew about harvests."

Right, that's why Thanksgiving originated in England.

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How did it originate it there when you guys don't even celebrate it?

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Also, maybe Pilgrims and Native American's did share a Thanksgiving meal but that does not mean Thanksgiving originated because of Native Americans.

Anyway, the point is that this question: "Why would you want to celebrate a day were they slaughtered the Native Americans?" is not correct. Thanksgiving was never about celebrating the slaughter of Native Americans.

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From the wiki page.

"Squanto, a Patuxent Native American who resided with the Wampanoag tribe, taught the Pilgrims how to catch eel and grow corn and served as an interpreter for them (Squanto had learned English during travels in England). Additionally the Wampanoag leader Massasoit had donated food stores to the fledgling colony during the first winter when supplies brought from England were insufficient."

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I do see your point though. Which in response I guess I just have to say I hate America that much.

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I do see your point though. Which in response I guess I just have to say I hate America that much.

Reply by: FartBarf at Nov 23, '12 14:08



You judge a country on the actions of its ancestors from hundreds of years ago? lol. Get a grip on life, let people enjoy their holidays.

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It's not due to the actions of ancestors, my reasoning would be for another thread. I'm just saying without the Natives, those dudes wouldn't have had a harvest to thank God for.

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And we repayed them by leading the largest mass genocide known to date... and stealing their land.

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