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| Squid, Phil, Revolve & Death of Free Speech! | Started by: Arnie_L on Jan 15, '13 09:21 |
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Friends,
My father, Arnold, was a loyal and hardworking member of Detroit. On the cusp of earning his button, he noticed a story unfolding on the Streets.
He had a lot of very important information that he knew would stir interest and add a new dimension to the discourse. So it was that he took to the Streets, in a respectful and non-offensive/judgemental way, to relate what he knew.
Friends, this was a discussion about historical events. Those mentioned who are still alive were not insulted or denigrated. The information was largely already in the public domain.
My father was aware of the timeline and reasoning. And he opined that there might have been a different subtext to a high profile death.
Arnold's CL and the CL's RHM both cleared the speech. Many messaged Arnold privately to congratulate him on an interesting discussion and on his continuing rehabilitation into this thing of ours.
And then....
BAM!!
He is murdered by the Godfather of Detroit.
Why?
What does this spell? The end of safe talking on the Streets? Death to all those who dare to discuss events? |
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Whenever you open your mouth in MafiaReturns, you always risk some form of repercussion. When you're a Wise Guy, it would definitely be wise to exercise caution when doing so as nobody has vouched for you, you haven't made your bones and you've sworn no oaths. You're not a Made Man; you're an associate. |
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| Reply by: Donbot at Jan 15, '13 10:43 | |
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The Boss of Detroit overruled his CL - for reasons that aren't readily apparant. |
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| Reply by: Arnie_L at Jan 15, '13 11:19 | |
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I normally wouldn't respond to speeches like this, as this is clearly another attempt at stiring up a non-existant controversy, however your statements strayed from the usual paranoid ranting into flat out falsehoods.
I think your father must have given you a bit of a twisted timeline here. If i recall correctly, which I do, your father only first messaged me after the speech in question had been made. There was nothing to 'clear' as the damage was already done. I think you should heed Donbot's words. |
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| Reply by: Bearpocalypse at Jan 15, '13 13:09 | |
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Death of free speech? Are you fucking serious? Go and read Phil's "Steak and Calamari" thread, read my posts then come back and try to tell me freedom of speech is dead.
You wonder why I think you're so much of a clown... threads like this are the reason. |
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| Reply by: Countdown at Jan 15, '13 13:12 | |
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I don't wonder why you think I'm so much of a clown. That's a deluded bit of self importance right there.
I couldn't care less. You are and idiot. |
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| Reply by: Arnie_L at Jan 15, '13 14:28 | |
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There are a lot of things that happen in this world of ours. Some of these things are free for discussion in the streets, others however, should remain private. This doesnt mean free speech is dead, it means that some things should not be paraded around the streets.
Having heard your speech in the streets, I can only say that you presented very little fact and a substantial amount of heresay on what is a very sensitive area of our life; part of this thing of ours... Is knowing when to shut up.
I can only think that perhaps someone who has taken his oath would have known better, associates that make such statements usually end up like your father. It's a hard lesson to learn, but an important one.
Suck it up and get back to work.
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| Reply by: Epsilon at Jan 15, '13 14:35 | |
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Heresay? Do you mean I spoke ill of God and should be condemned for doing so? If so, friend, you're in the wrong church!
I added some references and sources to back my words up. |
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| Reply by: Arnie_L at Jan 15, '13 14:56 | |
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My apologies.
I seem to have been a bit tongue tied there.
The word I was searching for was hearsay.
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| Reply by: Epsilon at Jan 15, '13 15:01 | |
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But they was words an associate of a city nowhere near involved with anything too do with what your father was speaking. |
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| Reply by: Sterling-Archer at Jan 15, '13 15:08 | |
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"I don't wonder why you think I'm so much of a clown. That's a deluded bit of self importance right there."
Because it's the same situation every time with your bloodline... they do something they shouldn't have in their boss' eyes, get killed for it, then their son comes back screams about it from the hilltops. You make it seem like nobody else ever goes down without thinking they didn't deserve it.
Man the fuck up, dust yourself down and start again. |
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| Reply by: Countdown at Jan 15, '13 15:16 | |
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No-one has been killed as many times as me and felt hard done by about it. That's just a fact. Every single time I've died, I've felt I should have lived, except for maybe several dozen times. Other than that, I've been shot for much the same reason: my sheer bloody hard work on the Streets!
It's not like I insult anyone, I just make public things that the powerful would prefer are kept private. Then the powerful kill me, the little guy (sorry Rory), the underdog, the one who fights for others. |
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| Reply by: Arnie_L at Jan 15, '13 15:48 | |
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Ricardo can´t help but to overhear a thug speaking to a few people at the corner, he walks closer and listens to what is beeing said.. He notices the guy seems quite confused and feels a strong need to help the poor guy out and adress his problems..
"Arnie, let me have a look at you, are you alright? You´re talking about having been killed multible times, yet you´re still standing here, well alive..
By saying that, Ricardo hands Arnie_L a businesscard and continues on his way.
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| Reply by: Uncle_Fet at Jan 15, '13 18:09 | |
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Arnie, you couldn't be more wrong. Nick_Corleone anyone? Tony_Salvatana? even myself. My ancestors diaries are riddled with short etches from the various offspring. At one point we used to die EVERY 24 hours.
Your blood IS hard done by Arnie, but they bring a lot of it on themselves. Like I said before, learn to take it on the chin better. The repetitive notions of scandal are very tiresome, so much so that people like myself... think you're a clown.
Prove me wrong dude, prove me wrong. |
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| Reply by: Countdown at Jan 15, '13 18:28 | |
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"You are and idiot."
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| Reply by: NoahLevenstein at Jan 15, '13 19:03 | |
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He's used it before Noah, sorry to burst your bubble. :p |
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| Reply by: Countdown at Jan 15, '13 19:07 | |
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That's exactly what I mean Countdown, at first I assumed it to be a typo, but this is the second time I've seen it crop up today!
Unless it's older still, in which case I'll be very sad. |
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| Reply by: NoahLevenstein at Jan 15, '13 19:13 | |
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http://mafiareturns.com/comm/thread/307129#37167916
Couple of months ago, Sir. :) |
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| Reply by: Countdown at Jan 15, '13 19:28 | |
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He seems to use it time and again in the hope someone corrects him on it and proves themselves the fool by not knowing it was an intentional error. He's so cool like that. |
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| Reply by: TyrionLannister at Jan 15, '13 21:39 | |
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"I just make public things that the powerful would prefer are kept private. Then the powerful kill me." |
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| Reply by: Aidan at Jan 16, '13 01:25 | |
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