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You think you're a tough guy, eh? Started by: PlayerCommission on Feb 07, '13 18:09
Original Suggestion Thread: You think you're a tough guy, eh? by Phil_Steak
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Though it should strictly be Warrior that does this I know he will be asleep now and time is of the essence.

Brief breakdown.

Phil_Steak has brought a new form of attacking to the fore front he called it "Ass Whopping"

Three levels to be unleashed


1 - Take it easy

2 - Whopp his ass

3 - Send a Message


Each of these inflict an increasing level of "damage" to the target.


Possible results of actions mentioned by Phil were


a) Hospitalized and immobile -- Unable to earn.
b) Medical expenses.

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As things go I think this is an awesome gem of an idea that has a few rough edges we can hammer out and let Squishy loose on it!!!!


I'd quite like it to be an ability you can develop or something where you need to obtain experience in it to be able to control the amount of damage you do to someone. I foresee it as at the beginning you lack the self control to accurately be able to take it easy or just whop ass or send a message so you may do any of the above. As you do it more you obtain more self control and are able to do one of the above.


The results of the action is the hard part.

Again having given it some though I wouldn;t like to see MR go down some "Player hit point" level.

Maybe the results leave you grounded for a while, maybe unable to earn as well which means less experience and less monies received from felonies and petties. To even going as far as a short term reduced amount of drugs because lets all be honest I don't imagine you would want to buy drugs from someone who is caked in bruises and cuts. They wouldn't take me as the seller of quality gear, more like the stuff that contains horsemeat.

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I would agree, that I don't want to see it turned into people just beating on each other all day. So I definitely think repercussions on both sides would be ideal. I like the idea of leaving you grounded, unable to earn, because you would need to lay low for a bit. I like the whole idea and can't wait to see what the outcome is.

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thanks for doing the re-cap Nino.

I think its an excellent idea also, but as has been said there needs to be some strict repercussions so its not abused.

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One issue: When it comes to war, if someone knows they're gonna die, why wouldn't they just use this to fuck up the other guy's timer? Or is that one of the goals?

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Some of the things that need to be addressed in order for it to be put into the game without it getting banned are this:

Is it 100% fair all the way up and down the chain. If there are any rank restrictions, what is being put in so it is not abused from the top down?

Can this feature be restricted or banned from the CLs? What are the ideas to ensure that will not be.

What wording will fit in to ensure that everyone knows what the feature does before you do the final comfirmation.

Should the feature cause the person to automatically fight back, therefor if the attacker gets his ass handed to him there will be no consequences for the original victim.

What are the possible repercussions to the attacker or victim of the 3 levels of attacks.

Which timer should be used, and how much time.

Witnesses?

If you beat down someone with a gun, can they turn around and shoot you? (Should this be an automatic chance so its not used for BS reasons?)

Basically, write this feature start to finish, including all the preventative measures to ensure it is used and enjoyed by players, only has realistic restrictions on it so it can be used and justify a week of work to code, creates a scenario where users can use it to solve their own issues without getting the crewleaders involved, and create a scenario where users are enticed to settle their own differences on a player to player level without getting crewleaders involved.

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Squishy calls to question a lot of things that are important. As for the new addition of mugging as an example, leadership has attempted to have a say in it... and been punished for it. I don't know if this feature is needed really considering how much like a bee sting .. it seems to be. People don't like being stung by bees, and people are pissy even by PPing which is really harmless, unless it's for BG gauging. So, eh. It would take a lot of talking to really work this one out. It's definitely an interesting idea, but one has to weigh the benefits of it gameplay wise and socially. 

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And you think Duelling is a better option?


I fail to see how this is any worse than dueling and has a more realistic feel to the mafia world.

I am trying to get the time together to give this idea a write up like Squishy wants however work is taking over my life to a great point :(

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