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Legacy vs Obedience | Started by: Countdown on Mar 27, '13 20:11 |
I'd estimate that 90% of us have some sort of goal(s) we would like to achieve in our lives, for some it could be running their own family, others to be the ultimate hitsquads, others still, absolute power. Even I have goals that I would like to achieve. |
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Everybody builds a legacy whether it be in a family, or by leading one of their own. |
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Reply by: Neville at Mar 27, '13 20:16 | |
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From the way some people walk around these shores you would think they don't want to leave behind memories of themselves... almost as if they're not exactly proud they haven't 'been all they could be'.
There are all types of memorable personality's from the past, some for their aggression, some for their iron-fist, some for their soapbox abilities, some for their gun capabilities... I could go on and on. There is a massive array of roles people here could play within their families and this world, but they choose not to. They don't want a legacy. |
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Reply by: Countdown at Mar 27, '13 20:27 | |
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Most people are content going through the motions and not making waves. They come to these shores for a break from the other world. The real wave makes, or people who leave legacys are the people who want to see change occur, the guys or girls who grab someone by the short and curlies and put them six feet under. They want the glory, and they go about achieving it. Will I end up leaving a legacy, time will only tell. I think my family will remember me, prehaps my fellow crew leaders. In my time, I havent done anything memorable, so I doubt they will. Hopefully Ill change that before my time is up |
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Reply by: Alexander at Mar 27, '13 20:38 | |
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In my personal opinion...here we go again... |
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Reply by: CarraigRealta at Mar 28, '13 09:27 | |
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I have to disagree with the premise that a legacy must be full of legendary achievements or notoriety in order for it to be meaningful. A legacy is what is passed down to us from our ancestors or what we pass down to our next of kin, nothing more nothing less. |
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Reply by: Satanta at Mar 28, '13 09:43 | |
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You're supposed to reply to Countdown too, not just me. ;-) |
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Reply by: CarraigRealta at Mar 28, '13 09:47 | |
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*Watches for a moment, as the world slowly revolves around CarraigRealta* |
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Reply by: Satanta at Mar 28, '13 09:55 | |
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In relation to your reply though, of course to everyone a Legacy can be a different thing. However, everyone wants to be famous. Everyone wants that respect and to me that doesn't come with a family tradition of being the best in Family at 'Yes Sir, No sir, three bags full Sir' and when that family leader dies continuing the tradition in the first family to come along with an invite. |
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Reply by: CarraigRealta at Mar 28, '13 09:56 | |
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I'll disagree with "everyone wants to be famous". Some of the most loyal bloodlines I've ever known, including some of the most honourable, have avoided this at all costs. From declining auths to doing everything in their power to remain in the shadows while still being a vital cog in the wheel of whatever organisation they were a part of. They may very well be viewed as "life preserving, spineless, opinionless, cash machines" from someone on the outside looking in, but that wouldn't change my view of them in the slightest or cause them a single moment of concern. |
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Reply by: Satanta at Mar 28, '13 10:09 | |
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I too have to disagree with the idea that everyone wants to be famous. Most people I have met don't really want to be famous. They just want to be remembered. Of course, everyone has a different perspective on what they want to be remembered for and who they want to remember them. Personally, I would gladly lay down my life for the betterment of my Family and beyond assisting the growth of the Lights out Syndicate possibly dying to protect my Crew Leader or my Godfather, I really have no more personal goals at the moment. Maybe it will change as time goes on, maybe not. |
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Reply by: Elijah at Mar 28, '13 10:53 | |
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"I have to disagree with the premise that a legacy must be full of legendary achievements or notoriety in order for it to be meaningful."
No, it doesn't Satanta... but they should still be aiming for that should they not?
Because of the traits passed down from kin to kin, people are expected to act and speak in a certain way. A few try to break the mould, even less succeed. Because of the tight-knit community we have it's a shock when a member of a bloodline does something different. Take Kuku- as an example... no matter what he is doing now or does in the future, people are expecting him to go off the rails... I'll admit I'm one of these people (Lord, let him prove us wrong). If he dies in the next war, people will expect his son to come back with those loose lips he's so infamous for. If he dies and his son doesn't do this I would regard that as a meaningful achievement. I have lived for far longer than any of my ancestors could have dreamed of and I view this as a meaningful achievement.
These achievements will be meaningless to a lot of people here, but not for me. There's a lot of folk around these shores with the work ethic of an overweight baby hippo and still sit back and make smart arse comments about others attempting to do/be something different.
I'm not sure why one of the more active members of our community would make excuses for people who don't even bother to do the small things right, like stay out of other people's business. Some just do not try to do anything... ever.
Totally agree that everyone does NOT want to be famous. Some people are very good at not being famous but being very powerful and those are the types I admire. I and a lot of others have their own way of doing things in this world and those people have their way. Both get the job done, both are totally opposite ends of the scale. Although there was a time when it was very helpful to be 'famous' but that time has long since passed and now there's a healthy balance of the two. |
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Reply by: Countdown at Mar 29, '13 18:12 | |
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Reply by: Elijah at Mar 29, '13 19:33 | |
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Yes, everyone should aspire to legendary achievements Elijah. I understand that very few will actually achieve it, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't aspire to it.
There are other achievements that I wouldn't care to share in public Elijah that others would also consider an achievement. This is why I knock it. ;) |
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Reply by: Countdown at Mar 29, '13 19:38 | |
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Gent listened to countdown speach and has a few thoughts to share about this subject... |
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Reply by: The_Gent at Mar 29, '13 19:49 | |
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*waits until The_Gent has finished* |
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Reply by: CarraigRealta at Mar 29, '13 20:28 | |
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Gent listens to CarraigRealta reply, noticing his eagerness while himself was speaking his mind on countdown's speach! |
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Reply by: The_Gent at Mar 29, '13 21:02 | |
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The Go get em kid remark is simply what you should do with your method of building a legacy...you Go get em kid! |
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Reply by: CarraigRealta at Mar 29, '13 21:13 | |
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Just to quote this and i dont believe you've listen to my full comment... |
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Reply by: The_Gent at Mar 29, '13 21:23 | |
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Don't get me wrong, your contribution is most valuable. After all you are living walking proof that my opinion of legacy is wrong...but that is my opinion of legacy and I'll bet a penny to a pound that my grandkids won't be sitting around reminiscing about the effects and legend of that legacy many years from now. |
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Reply by: CarraigRealta at Mar 29, '13 22:05 | |
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