When there's peace, people bitch about hand holding. When there is war, people bitch about dying. You chose this life. You chose to join this thing of ours. Death is a part of our life, and if you can't accept that, you know where the door is.

Gohan turns on his heel and walks away.

You think I'm bitching? No way. I'm just saying that people from NY, PH, CH killed DT guys just because they wanted to.

Ice_Cream, you say that we should have just taken out Creep? Please explain to me how it is plausible to take out just a Godfather and not all of those that have given their allegiance to him by joining his city. If that were to happen I could almost guarantee there would be some amount of retaliation. You are thinking about this as the "innocent bystander." That's just a one sided way to look at it. I've also heard that Detroit posed no immediate threat and would have taken months to be a threat. So what, hear they want to take you out, then give them time to actually get strong enough to do it? All of the people who are bickering, your logic seems pretty damn flawed to me. Just saying.

Morrison wanders off after having said what he felt needed to be said placing a cigar in his mouth as he was walking away.  

flawed or not. Like I care.

And stop roleplying. its annoying.

Morrison hearing some confusing stuff coming from the person to whom he just replied turned around to reply once again.

Who is roleplaying? This is not the bedroom. I don't know what kind of roleplaying you're talking about. 

Morrison has a confused look on his face. 

Killing unsponsored people that had been asleep for days is Ok now, I guess?

Sad times. Very sad times.

She peeks in and hands Ice Cream a map to certain regulations placed upon the Streets by City Hall that have been recently enforced.

This is a public place! Leave the kinky stuff in the bedroom Ice Cream.

I get everything war, killing and shit it happens all the time but what i dont understand is if Creep talked about killing someone, why other districts are killed. Shouldnt it be like every district has its godfather/city head?? So basicly in this case only Creep's district had to die not others.

This is so funny. Thanks Midol for silly advice.

Goodbye, crazy people

JohnTheRevelator listens intently to what some of the people are saying in the streets with regards to the takedown of Detroit.

Firstly all i keep hearing is how DT was to weak to cause anyone any problems, Really? because in case i missed something here your saying that DT didn't have the guns to cause any damage, well to all those out there with that view look at it this way, most of our world dont have the guns to hit the CL's or those mobsters running around with an army of bodyguards but there is at least 75% of the population that could be hit quite easily, so yes DT was a threat to the stability of our world if they attacked first they could have caused a hell of a lot of damage, you dont need a cannon to hit most at the moment so to say that DT were still building and were toothless is to be quite honest horse shit, yes they probably would still have lost but look at the damage they could have done with a first wave of attacks gangster v gangster that kind scenario and so on and so fourth, then you had Godfather Creep who could have hit the bigger targets would you want to take the risk really?.

Secondly now im saying this without having seen the proof neither do i wish to see it as to be honest thats for the upper structures, i will say however given the circumstances Frank Sinatra had a choice to make, does he sit there and do nothing and possibly put his city at risk? or does he try to protect his city and act accordingly? one of my ancestors had a similar situation and guess what acted on information passed to him and attacked first hence saving the lives of most of his city.

So ask yourself this would you put the welfare of your city first or would you simply brush the info under the carpet and risk the lives of your family and your city?.

RIP to all the innocent people who died in this takedown but inevitably you choose who you work for and you fight together and ultimately die together, having said his piece John tips his hat and continues about his business.

I have to address the several mentions of the 'innocent' people that are dead.

They are not fucking innocent. We are in the mafia, there are no innocent people. As to why they were killed for not doing anything wrong, they joined the family who's leader was killed, which in turn, includes you. When you join a family, you a bound to them by blood, sweat, tears, everything. You are now a part of that family until death, or in rare cases, if you are given your own family, or asked to be a new families Right Hand.

There is no other reason you would leave a family, so you are not innocent in anything. You swear allegiance to Creep when joining Detroit, just like I swear allegiance to Harris because I'm in Chicago. This means you are with Creep no matter what happens. Whether it be DT warring someone else, a competition, city rules, ANYTHING, you are apart of Detroit, and therefore, you are damn right you will die with them. If Harris was ever attacked, the attackers better make sure I'm on their target list, otherwise I'll be coming at them until I'm dead. End of story.

(OOC: Special mention to Ice_Cream: You're a fucking idiot. Shut up. Stop role playing? We're in a fucking role play game you absolute moron. Seriously, the intelligence level is ridiculously low.)

I can understand the animosities of others during a time of death, especially one where their ancestor had invested a lot of time into their stay here on these shores. 

I will also say, that any other mobster would have done the same in our shoes, I can almost guarantee it. These accusations that you are all "innocent", as Teo has said, is utter shit. We are in the mob; death is around every corner in this thing of ours.

You die by the gun and live by the gun. You die by your leaders side just how it should be. When your leader leads you into battle, you follow; no matter the circumstances.

Another matter, of the proof. The people who are making the decisions for war, have seen the proof. Godfather Creeps ancestors are nowhere to be seen as of yet to explain these events or defend his name. I would say that is reason enough to tell everyone that these accusations ARE genuine and true. 

Once again, Rest In Peace to the fallen.

After listening to plenty of bickering anima decides to step forward to drop his 2 cents.

I'd like to speak to all considering themselves 'the innocent', or those who have deemed their deaths as 'undeserved.'  Let me preface what I'm about to say by a few things.  My blood line does not go very far in this world.  It feels like just yesterday my father and I stepped off of the boat.  I do not have an opinion of why this war was started, nor do I have individual opinions on anyone.  But there is one thing I do know, and that is family loyalty.  Whilst my bloodline has not roamed these streets for very long, our blood is deeply tied to many different mafioso connections.

Here is what I have to say:  Make wiser decisions in the future.  Whether or not you supported, knew about, or helped in any plans that may or may not have happened, you did decide to join whichever family you did.  Whether that be because of a friend, or just because they gave you a home.  When you joined your family, you agreed to a two-way relationship.  Not only does your family stand by and protect you, but you also stand for all decisions made by your family, your city, and most importantly your Godfather.  If you are claiming you did not know your Godfather or your upper structures plans then maybe in the future you should get to know these people a bit better before deciding to take residence somewhere.

With all that said, I truly hope that all souls lost over the last day find peace.  I hope that their bloodlines return, and I hope that they become truly successful in this world.  However, there are no 'innocent' when it comes to dying with your family.

Only thing that confuses me is that with this war that are no "innocents," yet after the big war "innocents" had a prolonged period of safety in which to find new homes before they were fair game.

That being said, if you had even an inch of loyalty to your crew leader you go down shooting with them. Nothing irks me more than members that hop to the family who has just killed their leader. 

The innocents that were protected after the big war, were nothing to do with the war. They joined our world after the war had started, and they weren't associated with a family. That's why they were protected and deemed innocent.

No a fair few of the 'innocents' that were sleeping when the war started were still deemed 'innocent'. I know because my father told me he had to get confirmation of times and dates before he could shoot them.

I'm personally 100% of the belief that there are no innocents in this world, as is this case rightfully so in this takedown.  

The reason there was no protection orders was due to the fact that we chose to go about the takedown in an old-school manner. From the era when a takedown wasn't over until everyone representing that city was in a pine box. Do you chop down the top of a weed and pray it doesn't grow back? Or do you grab a firm chokehold on that fucker and yank it from the earth in its entirety, roots and all? I prefer the latter. Why risk retribution from the "innocents"? Its a foolish gamble I wasn't interested in taking. Enough said.

After listening to Frank_Sinatra finish addressing the large crowds, Cpt-Harris stepped forward and began to speak...

Many of you are wondering as to why last night Chicago aided Philadelphia in the removal of Detroit, so I'm here to shed some light on the matter.

Firstly, after last month's war, it was widely known that a protection order was put into place to ensure all those who needed to find a home were given sufficient time to do so without having to worry about being innocently gunned down. This was made public and was placed in the streets for all to see. There hadn't been many illegal shots in regards to this, but one or two were starting to sneak through, and with the witness statements being caught, the perpetrators were being killed for their actions. Well, they were until Detroit became involved.

My Witness Statement Collector had received two Witness Statements of illegal shots from within Detroit, and forwarded them onto myself. I then got in contact with Creep about the situation. One of the offenders was then killed, while the other, VinoGandor, was kept alive. The reason being that the shot was a 'mistake as they were on the IA list' so Vino was let off with a slapped wrist. Quite the double standard.

Secondly, the confusing antics between a Chicago and Detroit member. A Chicago hitter had searched out a target to be training their gun. They were an Earner, born May 11th, and died May 23rd. Not knowing whether this was a legitimate target, they asked their Hitsquad Leader, who confirmed that it was a sound target to be shooting at. So they shot it. Afterwards, a mass mail is received from Detroit asking for the Witness Statement, claiming it was an illegal shot, because they were being transferred between families.

This would've been fine, if there was any indication that this was what was happening. Upon checking the dead body, there was no indicator that the person had been invited by anybody. Maybe there was just a lack of communication within Detroit? Maybe. However, when you consider that a sponsored member can be invited while still being in their original family, there should really be no time inbetween families for this person. The fact they they were sleeping, merely cements the fact that there was a lack of communication, and it should've been better planned. As a 'punishment' for well, not doing anything wrong, Creep was given 30 credits as compensation, but this was not enough it seems. Creep demanded that the hitter, and the hitsquad leader be demoted. Add this to the compensation already consisting of 30 credits, unreasonable to say the least.

Lastly, when I returned from a few days away due to illness, I learned that a close friend of mine had overheard a converation of which Creep was a part of. During the conversation, Creep expresses his desire to 'gain NY in the long run'. How would his people achieve this? 'They kill LF and take NY'. Now before I left, I knew Creep was upset with New York for his own reasoning. Was it possible Creep made those statements because he was upset and didn't really mean them? Sure, but what if he did? This was something I could not just sit back and ignore, and it was a risk I was not willing to take.

Having this all happen in a matter of a couple of weeks brought great worry to myself and worry for the city of Chicago. If this is what they are capable in such a short amount of time, what do we have to look forward to in the future?

Yesterday afternoon, Mr Sinatra made myself aware of his intentions to war Detroit for his own reasons. After taking everything said above into consideration, Chicago made the difficult decision of supporting Philadelphia, and so plans were put into action.

I'll finish by saying, to all those that died during last nights conflict, friend or enemy, may you rest in peace.  

Cpt-Harris took a step back before shaking the hand of Frank_Sinatra. 

I know people always say that when you're Godfather you don't have to explain your actions to anyone Cpt-Harris.

So thank you for shedding some more light on the matter to the ill informed. 

All I want to ask is this, if we have multiple districts, with multiple city heads or Godfathers, but yet all those districts are still judged by the Godfather of another district, what is the point of even having districts? Besides getting another Godfather boost around.

I'll tell you one thing, I had heard the rumors of Creep saying he wanted to take out LadyFighter, but I had told others that the rest of Detroit, even Creep's own Right Hand at the time that no one knew about it. At least the city of Detroit didn't.

Are we going to treat these districts like they have a mind of their own? Or what is the point to even having someone take Godfather or acting head of that district if they are all doomed because of the actions of another in a different district.

That is what I would like to know, I could care less that my ancestor passed away. It just seems like the rest of the game wanted to get some blood on their hands and killed everyone, even people who had no idea what Creep was supposedly planning. Yet, no one has yet to release any of this proof. Granted, we don't get to usually see such proof, and many massacre's happen due to rumors and bullshit, but as of right now you all doomed the city due to one person.

Are we going to always continue this way? If so, everyone who owns their own district, well you're obviously only there to look pretty.