"My premise was that you choose to bring him to the spotlight every time you come to the light, most will assume I'm right based on your recent and long term actions so even though the fact I brought it up here means it should be my turn to prove a point, the fact you went straight after Prem after your return proves it well enough for most."

"I think you do. And I think you'll eventually start to open your eyes to just what you really ask for when you do things like this. I'm hoping you'll eventually give this up to do things you'd actually want, but if you want to play this stupid game I'll play."

" Or are you consciously working with him to quickly inflate his reputation again?""

First i don't need anyone to inflate my reputation, i can do that myself. Second if i wanted to work with someone it would not be kuku. Third maybe do like kuku tells you to do, and go get your facts straight. If i wanted to work with kuku my family line would have became public a long time ago, and i would have went back to using my god given name of Premeir, but atlast i didnt, so if you want to get kuku going, do it with someone else.

Further more you can barely keep up with KuKu so dont worry about what I do, you worry about not looking silly on the streets.

I backed you up for my dislike of kuku in your other shitty attempt speech to show up kuku. So you focus on him, and not worry about what premeir does.

"My premise was that you choose to bring him to the spotlight every time you come to the light"

I brought myself back into the spot light if you can go follow the cookie trail.

Maybe talk about someone else other then me, you sound like kuku

"I never said you haven't, my issue is with his involvement."

Then dont bother grouping me with him, you have a problem take it up with kuku. You need bullets to fire at him, or sharp words to cut him. Figure out a differnt way to do it, then to do the same thing he does and use my name to prove a point.

You are doing the same thing kuku is, kuku loves to dick ride Premeir, and you are right next to him, wondering when your turn can be to talk about Premeir.

Focus on your task at hand.

"I've never once actually spoken about you... All I've spoken about was his actions involving you. I couldn't care less about you, your street presence has never killed the streets afterwards so I don't care what you do or say."

Like i said focus on your task at hand, your being embarassed by kuku. You've never spoken about me, just actions invovling me, ok ill let kuku fill you in on what irony is.

You don't care what i do or so, so stop worrying about what i do and say. Stop worrying about why im back, stop asking why people talk about me. Stop wondering if im working with someone.

The only thing you need to think about, is how stupid you look losing to kuku in a profession you claim to be the best at.

Your street presence is about as menacing as death threats from kuku.

Step your game up, or stop playing.

Go write back alley threads about me, and read them when you get bored.

Either take kuku down with your mighty pen or move the fuck on so i can continue with him.

I dont like sharing my toys, especially if the little boy doesn't know how to play with him.

"I respond to everyone. I don't let others fill in my thoughts so every time you respond I will as well, not because I care about you but I care about being the only one to express my thoughts and actions by clarifying as much as possible. I really don't care about you individually, but there is something that asks for a response so I will respond."

"How am I losing to Kuku? Which lines show him beating me? How does one measure that? I'd love to see how you did this."

"My street presence brought the streets back to life in a way none have tried from what I my bloodline has seen. My bloodline is now trying to kill the presence known as Kuklinski by recognizing that he doesn't know what he really wants, or isn't asking for what he really wants and giving him what he's really asking for in full. It's the same way I show a child they're wrong when they're throwing a tantrum."

"I don't write about you in Back Alley threads because I don't care. I hate seeing it actually bother another human being, my opinion rather than the thinking behind it, but I truly believe you aren't worth the effort of writing about so I won't unless you make a remark directed at me that requires a response."

"Please stop calling me a child unless you can justify what I've done that's childish. Quote the lines, please. Don't just toss accusations, prove what you say and say what you mean or please just don't speak at all."

"but I truly believe you aren't worth the effort of writing about so I won't unless you make a remark directed at me that requires a response."

Id love to see a child like you keep their mouth shut? Is this what you always do, oh you arent worth it so i wont reply to you, 15 year old girl.

"My street presence brought the streets back to life in a way none have tried from what I my bloodline has seen. My bloodline is now trying to kill the presence known as Kuklinski by recognizing that he doesn't know what he really wants, or isn't asking for what he really wants and giving him what he's really asking for in full. It's the same way I show a child they're wrong when they're throwing a tantrum."

Brought the streets back to life? Oh hell yeah looked real fucking lively before i decided to come on back, good thing kuku was here to make sure you didn't my revive the streets operation with your mouth, kuku has that occupied.

"How am I losing to Kuku? Which lines show him beating me? How does one measure that? I'd love to see how you did this."'

Maybe the fact that you would't debate him unless a topic was choosen upfront and a set time agreed upon. This isn't a tennis match, we are in the mafia, so take the tennis bracelet off and realiaze 11 years ago, my blood was better then you, 10 years ago my blood was better,9 years ago my blood was better,8 years ago my blood was better, 7 years ago my blood was better, 6 years ago my blood was better, 5 years ago my blood was better, 4 years ago my blood was better, 3 years ago my blood was better, 2 years ago my blood was better, 1 year ago my blood was better, and im still better.

""Please stop calling me a child unless you can justify what I've done that's childish. Quote the lines, please. Don't just toss accusations, prove what you say and say what you mean or please just don't speak at all.""

Child

Id love to see a child like you keep their mouth shut? Is this what you always do, oh you arent worth it so i wont reply to you, 15 year old girl.

"Personal insults dodging the logic driving my statement."

Brought the streets back to life? Oh hell yeah looked real fucking lively before i decided to come on back, good thing kuku was here to make sure you didn't my revive the streets operation with your mouth, kuku has that occupied.

"Apparently you've been gone too long. They've been the liveliest they've been in years for almost 3 weeks now and I've had a large hand in that. Kuku comes in for a short period of time and hypes people into a frenzy for a short period and then the streets die. I won't let his comments that benefit you come at the cost of the street, nor will I pretend he's a legitimate orator."

Maybe the fact that you would't debate him unless a topic was choosen upfront and a set time agreed upon. This isn't a tennis match, we are in the mafia, so take the tennis bracelet off and realiaze 11 years ago, my blood was better then you, 10 years ago my blood was better,9 years ago my blood was better,8 years ago my blood was better, 7 years ago my blood was better, 6 years ago my blood was better, 5 years ago my blood was better, 4 years ago my blood was better, 3 years ago my blood was better, 2 years ago my blood was better, 1 year ago my blood was better, and im still better.

"I never said he had to follow the time, I gave him a challenge with terms that gave him an advantage of having over 24 hours to prepare a debate for whatever topic he chose that I couldn't possibly prepare for. He never showed, never explained why, whereas I explained I didn't like assigning merit of discussion to a system that would be easy to cheat."

"I don't care about 11 years ago. I don't care about the subjective past that both of us will have judged for separate reasons. I care about the thinking behind actions, statements, and decisions that are possibly killing this thing of ours. Obsessing over the past sounds like a great next topic for one of my speeches, thank you for the idea I'll be sure to give it proper thought and expand upon how such a concept can kill a community. Unfortunately, I'm already committed to finishing some other discussions first but I assure you it's a topic that actually does interest me so it will likely be discussed."

"Great evidence Stonewall, no one could possibly argue with 'you are one because I said you are one' ideology because it' just too fundamentally sound."

I knew my child would come back to daddy and reply.

""I never said he had to follow the time, I gave him a challenge with terms that gave him an advantage of having over 24 hours to prepare a debate for whatever topic he chose that I couldn't possibly prepare for. He never showed, never explained why, whereas I explained I didn't like assigning merit of discussion to a system that would be easy to cheat.""

Sorry thought we shot people, and commit felonies didnt know you and kuku were running for president.

I knew my child would come back to daddy and reply.

"Did I once claim I wouldn't reply? Did you?"

Id love to see a child like you keep their mouth shut? Is this what you always do, oh you arent worth it so i wont reply to you, 15 year old girl.

"Oh I guess you did, funny how that works."

Sorry thought we shot people, and commit felonies didnt know you and kuku were running for president.

"And I didn't realize the best speaker was the man with the biggest gun, could've sworn that winning a discussion by force was the equivalent of needing a firearm to win a game of chess. You never really win when you bring force into matters of the mind, you only prove you have the biggest force. You can actually have both force an logical thinking and keep them separate."

Setting a time for a debate has nothing to do with the biggest gun, it means merely you can't go toe to toe with that person. Oh you want to fight me, well lets do it this time, this date, and this way.

If you can't take kuku, then say so, and 100 other people will. Don't stand on a pedistool and do the same thing you accuse kuku of, then turn it into a fact of violence vs intelligence.

"but I truly believe you aren't worth the effort of writing about so I won't unless you make a remark directed at me that requires a response."

"Please stop calling me a child unless you can justify what I've done that's childish. Quote the lines, please. Don't just toss accusations, prove what you say and say what you mean or please just don't speak at all.""

Guess i am worth the effort since you reply each and everytime. When are you going to back all your accusations of kuku up. Lets see some proof of me and him working together, lets see anything.

Oh thats right so dont speak at all child, take your own advice.

"I never gave him a set time, I only told him to produce a subject for debate and start the debate by a certain time because 24 hours was more than enough time for him to find a topic and research it. I don't understand why you keep saying I 'can't take Kuku' or that he's beating me without proving it. Prove it, show me the quoted lines where he has clearly bested me."

"The statement you've quoted includes 'unless you make a remark directed at me that requires a response'. You aren't worth my time, the preservation of my publicly stated words and ideas are. The ones you're now discrediting without evidence for discrediting. I am asking Kuku questions that he can answer at any point in time. Choosing not to answer them is the only thing letting those questions stand as accusations. If you need validation for any other comment, bring it forward and I shall. I never claimed you had any part in him helping your appearance to the public. I've asked him about his reasoning for bolstering you publicly and then asked why? One of my beliefs for a possibility includes the two of you working together so I asked him and he refused to answer. That doesn't mean that you are or aren't but it means he doesn't want to answer."

Oh thats right so dont speak at all child, take your own advice.

"I only ask people to stop helping others dodge questions or stop talking if they aren't thinking. Can you explain why you're out here now suddenly defending Kuku? I assume you realize him being critical of you helps you, so I assume you're out here to let him continue. If I'm right, why do you think that personally attacking me will help him continue to do what he has always done? Have I once altered my stances because of a personal insult? Have you wondered why I haven't felt the need to speak of anything but my own ideas and the statements you've made publicly? Do you truly understand the word 'I'? Or is your obsession with the past because of a time when others thought highly of you? If I'm right that it is an attachment to when others thought highly of you, why do you need others' high opinions of yourself? If I'm right, can you see the value of yourself in yourself or do you truly need others?"

"Do you have a self or are you grasping onto this community in an attempt to bolster a deflated self-esteem that you only have when others praise you? Please don't answer this one unless you truly understand the philosophical significance of the word 'I'."

"Can you explain why you're out here now suddenly defending Kuku?"

I stopped listening after that, if you paid a little more attention to the streets and less attention to the back alley you would know why im defending kuku.

BUT

since you are young, let me repeat myself, ill even give you a summary. You had your choice to stop using my name, in your aid to embarass kuku, and you choose not to.

So the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I asked you to stop bringing my name up, and you keep doing it. So i will be here all day long.

Also nobody attacked you, just having a conversation. My words dont hurt you do they? That is what id never want, my opnion to hurt other people.