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The State of the Suburbs Started by: Mr_Deschain on Jan 30, '14 18:31

You couldn't be more wrong, Silvio. It's exactly the kind of example that should be set. I don't know where people get this idea of freedom of speech and the right to say what you want. The only right you have is to die from a bullet in this business. There seems to be way to much freedom of speech around here. Respect is the foundation of this thing of ours and showing a lack of it while speaking on the streets should come with consequences. In the end the only right to free speech around here comes with the ability to bury who you are speaking about.

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You couldn't be more wrong, Silvio. It's exactly the kind of example that should be set.

 

I was referring to the city rules so im wrong about the rules thats good to know

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I was referring to the part where you said breaking his own rules sets a bad example. You're not wrong about the rules and you're expected to abide by them. Jake is a Godfather and not subject to the same rules you and I are. As for setting an example, that's exactly the kind of example that needs to be set. There's entirely too much expectation by people these days that they will be allowed to mouth off to people in superior positions to them.

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Just because you were a special badge, does not mean you are not held accountable for your mouth or your actions. End of story. Let me know how hit listing me works out.
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 As for setting an example, that's exactly the kind of example that needs to be set. There's entirely too much expectation by people these

days that they will be allowed to mouth off to people in superior positions to them.

 

I didnt mouth off I just made a point and so its entirely ok if someone of a higher ranks shoots me for it then. 

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Silvio if we are going to stick to rules then I am sure rules state we should not shoot people who have a sponser but in war time we do. There will always be an exception to the rule.

I assume Godfather Jake saw this gangster was being disrespectful to himself and shot him for being so disrespectful. I have no issue with that and I'm sure the majority of this world would agree with me. As you said you made a point and asked a question and you were respectful to me there is no issue so at no point would I think someone is going to shoot you based on your comments so far and I believe Totes wasn't aiming the comment about mouthing off to you but the original street speaker.
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 I believe Totes wasn't aiming the comment about mouthing off to you but the original street speaker

Well I certainly hope so thank you. I think the point I was trying to make was someone was calling out the GF they get shot fine with that, but if someone is  calling you out they want a reaction if you give them that you give them what they set out to do. They want attention they got it! Now rules If you break one then wants the point in the others? Or are we talking "do as I say not do as I do" War is War no rules as such agreed!

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This has nothing to so with breaking the rules, it is about being held accountable for your actions and your mouth.
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Ok lets break this down if some body started running their mouth off to you and I and were completely disrespectful and had a badge on their suit, we would go to our leaders for them to deal with and if they deemed it fit the person would die.

Now Godfather Jake is at the top of the pile witb the rest of the Godfather's they don't have to pass it up the chain as they are the top. He deemed that death was the correct punishment. It comes down to respect and the speaker showed none towards Jake and I'm glad he did because as Totes said it sets an example that it isn't ever right to disrespect a Godfather.
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If someone runs their mouth off to me, I let them and simply go about my life.

 

Engaging them, especially by killing them, gives that person and their bloodline exactly what they want. Your attention.

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Logan you are correct in one aspect but look at it this way we are in the mafia and a lot of what we are about is respect.

Say I am disrespectful to a CL and nothing is said to me and I am ignored and I keep on doing it because I am ignored. Someone else may see it and think if he can do it so can I so it breeds disrespect and it escalates.

Had Godfather Jake not said anything nobody would of known but this is clearly to make a example that disrespect will not be tolerated.
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To be completely honest i love things like this speech. Really got a good laugh so thanks for that. However for the sake of your argument I'll play along and agree that Jake is an inactive Godfather. Wouldn't you if in the last 6months you went from running the Suburbs to all MR? Personally I'd be demanding a plaque and my own CDTC rank like the famous Carlo Gambino. You are deffinatly entitled to your own opinion but you had to expect Jake to kill you. Silvio who gives a flying fuck about the rule, if you had shit talked Al Capone you think he'd look at his right hand and be like " I want to kill this prick, but he's got a -4 tag and there's rules" Fuck no he would go out and shoot the guy and anyone close to him. There's a more important thing to be proved and that's shit talking the Godfather will get you killed no matter who you are or what your rank is. So a certain amount of respect is given for having the balls to publicly state your opinion even if i don't agree with it, but realisticly you want change then do something about it cause i don't see anyone else having this issue.

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Disrespect takes away the protection given to any tags. I am also sure that once you crossed the line between respect and disrespect you can also be sent swimming with da fishes even if you are a member of a crew.

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